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gue_barium wrote:If I remember right, I think Jeff wrote "Pilate". It's a nice little whimsical lyric that effectively wipes it's hands clean of any connection to anything construed as "Biblical".
A: "licks" 'its hands clean' may have been the appropriate word there.
A: you could be right.
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I'm confused trying to determine if you are talking to yourself or me in your string of posts here. I already explained the reasoning for Pilate. Yes, Jeff wrote it. No, I do not see how it wipes/licks it's hands clean of anything.
My argument stands: PJ is not a Christian band but they do allude to biblical refererences in many of their songs. That is part of life and they sing about life situations. I think it's cool...most people find it surprising.
I also think it's cool to examine the songs that loosely could be interpreted as if Eddie was writing them AS A VAMPIRE. Serious. It's probably all garbage but it's fun to analyze in that light. And that was 10-12 years ago. Maybe Ed read Ann Rice's book and fancied himself as Lestat the rock star.0 -
Derrick wrote:I'm confused trying to determine if you are talking to yourself or me in your string of posts here. I already explained the reasoning for Pilate. Yes, Jeff wrote it. No, I do not see how it wipes/licks it's hands clean of anything.
My argument stands: PJ is not a Christian band but they do allude to biblical refererences in many of their songs. That is part of life and they sing about life situations. I think it's cool...most people find it surprising.
I also think it's cool to examine the songs that loosely could be interpreted as if Eddie was writing them AS A VAMPIRE. Serious. It's probably all garbage but it's fun to analyze in that light. And that was 10-12 years ago. Maybe Ed read Ann Rice's book and fancied himself as Lestat the rock star.
No, they don't allude to biblical references in many of their songs. That's a silly statement.
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gue_barium wrote:No, they don't allude to biblical references in many of their songs. That's a silly statement.
You've already stated that and I've given multiple examples where it's true. Given some of your other posts, you either have some really good drugs or a really bad memory. As such, no offense, but I choose not to discuss this or anything else with you in the future.
I hate to say "you're not worth it" to anyone, but in this case, it's the truth. My 8 year-old son shows more understanding, comprehension and reasoning than yourself.
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Derrick wrote:You've already stated that and I've given multiple examples where it's true. Given some of your other posts, you either have some really good drugs or a really bad memory. As such, no offense, but I choose not to discuss this or anything else with you in the future.
I hate to say "you're not worth it" to anyone, but in this case, it's the truth. My 8 year-old son shows more understanding, comprehension and reasoning than yourself.
Have a terrific life, pray the windowblinds you close safeguard you from the world.
Lemme guess:
"Not for You"
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If you need a band that positively rips off sayings from the Bible, look no further than Rage Against the Machine. They nearly made a career of it.
Again, Pearl Jam does not allude to the Bible or it's teachings in any way shape or form. They have resisted the affront that is fundamental ignorance of christianity in this country, in their songs, so you Derrick, can have your interpretations, but that does not exempt the fact that Pearl Jam does not endorse the Bible in the way that you endorse the Bible. In fact, they don't endorse it at all, other than in the act to unendorse it as a "fact of life".
Amen.
Q: No need to get hostile.
A: I'm not hostile, only confident. I respect the brothers of any faith.
Q: No you don't.
A: Sure I do. I can't pretend to respect short-sidedness when it comes to the literature of the bible.
Q: Derrick says that the bible is about Life.
A: He does. The Bible is a collection of stories. Being that they are told by humans, of course it is a collection of Life. A small collection of a certain time, that's all. Life is a never ending story.
Q: So are you saying that the Bible is a never ending story?
A: If people are true to the spirit of it, sure, why not?
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gue_barium wrote:If you need a band that positively rips off sayings from the Bible, look no further than Rage Against the Machine. They nearly made a career of it.
Again, Pearl Jam does not allude to the Bible or it's teachings in any way shape or form. They have resisted the affront that is fundamental ignorance of christianity in this country, in their songs, so you Derrick, can have your interpretations, but that does not exempt the fact that Pearl Jam does not endorse the Bible in the way that you endorse the Bible. In fact, they don't endorse it at all, other than in the act to unendorse it as a "fact of life".
Amen.
Q: No need to get hostile.
A: I'm not hostile, only confident. I respect the brothers of any faith.
Q: No you don't.
A: Sure I do. I can't pretend to respect short-sidedness when it comes to the literature of the bible.
Q: Derrick says that the bible is about Life.
A: He does. The Bible is a collection of stories. Being that they are told by humans, of course it is a collection of Life. A small collection of a certain time, that's all. Life is a never ending story.
Q: So are you saying that the Bible is a never ending story?
A: If people are true to the spirit of it, sure, why not?
Huh?
I mean, all books are books of the bible, that is, if all history can be perceived in one book, as the bible is often perceived. it is a living story, meaning the stories continue. the king james is just a middling, early book to the books before, and the books since in the greater book that can never be published in its entirety.
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gue_barium wrote:Huh?
I mean, all books are books of the bible, that is, if all history can be perceived in one book, as the bible is often perceived. it is a living story, meaning the stories continue. the king james is just a middling, early book to the books before, and the books since in the greater book that can never be published in its entirety.
You're going to give Derrick a stroke.
No, he'll probably see this as a comprehension issue. Then he'll take it up with his 8-year old son in some way.
Think about it.
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Gue_barium, you're talking to yourself a lot these days! Have you always done this and I haven't noticed, or is it truly a new habit?&&&&&&&&&&&&&&0
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this KOL song is along those lines.its ok0
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