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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 8,221
    shecky said:

     
    and trump wants a billion dollar ballroom. cut that instead of patient care.
    What, are you stupid or somethin? (in my best Jenny from Forest Gump voice) 

    Why would he do that when he can get the ballroom he wants AND own the libs on both the ballroom and the hospice thing? Silly gimme!
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 26,131
    shecky said:

     
    and trump wants a billion dollar ballroom. cut that instead of patient care.
    What, are you stupid or somethin? (in my best Jenny from Forest Gump voice) 

    Why would he do that when he can get the ballroom he wants AND own the libs on both the ballroom and the hospice thing? Silly gimme!
    lol he can own deez nuts.
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  • mickeyrat
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    Everyone said Trump was manipulating the stock market for personal gain. Turns out you were right.

    New financial disclosure forms released today by the U.S. Office of Government Ethics show Trump made at least $220 million (and potentially up to $750 million) in financial transactions during the first three months of 2026, while he was actively setting tariff and economic policy that moved markets.

    The purchases included securities in Microsoft, Meta, Oracle, Broadcom, Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, Nvidia, Apple, and S&P 500 index funds. He was also selling Microsoft, Amazon, and Meta among the large sales. Trump was buying and selling hundreds of millions in stocks in the same companies affected by his own executive decisions.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 12,087
    This is the single most corrupt and fraudulent regime in the history of America.

    What's worse is all the brainwashed and grifted cultists who don't care as long as their daily expenses go up, rich people's taxes go down, and libs get owned.

    Some even claim to be PJ fans.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 44,494
    This is the single most corrupt and fraudulent regime in the history of America.

    What's worse is all the brainwashed and grifted cultists who don't care as long as their daily expenses go up, rich people's taxes go down, and libs get owned.

    Some even claim to be PJ fans.
    Truth times three!

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 44,375

    *The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.


    And Scheky is worried about Cali? And people wonder how it still garners support? Tell us again how concerned you are about fraud and how CCOOTWH is fighting the good fight. Suckers. We’re so fucked. From LFAA:

    Vice President J.D. Vance was in Maine today to tout what the Trump administration claims is its push to combat fraud in public services. Vance blamed Democrats for fraud in Medicaid programs and vowed that the Trump administration would stop such fraud by refusing to distribute funds to states that were not cooperating with the federal government’s anti-fraud efforts. He announced yesterday the administration intends to withhold $1.3 billion in Medicaid payments from California.

    This alleged push against fraud is part of an old playbook the Republicans have used since at least 2000 in which they accuse the Democrats of their own weak points and misdeeds.

    This play was often associated with Republican strategist Karl Rove, but in 2024, Caroline Wazer of Snopes noted that it is most usually associated with Nazi propaganda in the 1930s. Accusing opponents of what you, yourself, are doing, muddies the waters and makes it hard for real accusations against you for the same thing to stick.

    Experts say fraud in federal programs is a real problem but that it is carried out primarily by transnational criminal organizations, not by individual recipients. Republican rhetoric claims a high rate of “improper payments,” but the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services itself stresses that “improper payment measurement is not a measure of fraud.” Rather, that term identifies payments where the paperwork provided by the state or provider was incomplete. Those numbers have been high recently because the government allowed states greater flexibility during the Covid-19 public health emergency. 

    According to the nonpartisan Maine Center for Economic Policy, MaineCare is overseen by both state and federal agencies, and the most recent federal review found that only about 0.1% of total program spending was in incorrect payments. Indeed, last month, Reed Shaw of Just Securitynoted that the administration’s claim to be rooting out fraud appears simply to be a new way to punish perceived political enemies that might have a better chance of getting through the courts than the administration’s previous attempts did.

    Accusing Democrats of fraud will also accomplish the political goal of muddying the waters to make it harder for voters to see that the Trump administration is the most corrupt U.S. administration in history. And concern about voters’ perceptions of corruption must be uppermost in the minds of administration advisors right now, since new Hungarian prime minister Péter Magyar’s landslide victory over Trump ally Viktor Orbán was driven in large part by voters’ fury at Orbán’s corruption.

    Muddying the waters for voters is the best the Trump administration can hope for because, for all the administration’s claims to be fighting fraud, Trump’s corruption is mind-boggling.

    He has fired or demoted twenty inspectors general—the people key to oversight—and in 2024 alone the people he has since fired or sidelined identified more than $50 billion in waste and abuse. Matthew Purdy and Luke Broadwater of the New York Times noted in March that in both terms as of March 2026, Trump has also pardoned or commuted the sentences of more than 70 donors or allies who were convicted of fraud. One, Philip Esformes, was convicted of stealing $1.3 billion from Medicare.

    Steven Greenhouse of The Guardianreminded readers today that in January, David D. Kirkpatrick of the New Yorker reported that the Trumps have pocketed about $4 billion, primarily through cryptocurrency enterprises. Greenhouse notes that Trump’s sons Eric and Don Jr. have invested in a drone manufacturer that is trying to sell weapons to Gulf countries currently at risk from the war their father started in Iran, and that the Pentagon recently awarded a $24 million contract to a robotics startup for which Eric is the “chief strategy advisor.”

    Even as Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner is acting as a chief negotiator for the U.S. in the Middle East, he has been trying to raise $5 billion from investors there for his investment firm. Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund, a sovereign wealth fund overseen by Saudi Crown prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS), has already invested $2 billion with Kushner.

    And then there are Trump’s vanity projects to remake the national capital. As Greenhouse notes, corporations and billionaires have dropped millions of dollars in donations for Trump’s ballroom where the East Wing used to be and his proposed presidential library in Miami. In December 2025, Karen Yourish, Kenneth P. Vogel, and Charlie Smart of the New York Timesestimated that Trump had raked in more than $2 billion for his projects or causes, more than half a billion of it from 346 people who each gave at least $250,000. Some of those people have received presidential pardons, others have been given jobs, and all have received access to the president.

    On May 11, Jonathan Allen, Peter Nicholas, Matt Dixon, Henry J. Gomez, and Allan Smith of NBC News reported that Trump is using the planned Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) event to be held on his birthday on the White House lawn as a new way for donors to funnel money to him. Although the UFC is paying for the event—and expects to lose as much as $30 million on it—and although tickets are technically free, Trump is picking who gets most of the tickets.

    Sponsorship packages that include ringside seats have been selling for $1 million or more. Neither the White House nor the UFC would comment on where the money is going. A Republican lobbyist told the NBC News journalists: “It’s basically been added to the list of approved entities to give undisclosed money to and get credit with Trump. They are raising a sh*t ton of money and have used it as another unofficial vehicle for corporate donors to give and gain favor with Trump.”

    And now Trump is in China on a state visit on which he took along seventeen CEOs of companies—many of which do business in China—including billionaires Elon Musk and Tim Cook of Apple. Together, the members of the delegation are worth more than a trillion dollars. Trump also took his son Eric, who runs the family business. As economist Paul Krugman said today, “He might as well have been walking around Beijing with a sign that says—in block capitals, of course, this is Trump—BRIBE ME.”

    On Tuesday a group of Miami residents sued Trump, his library fund, Florida governor Ron DeSantis, Miami Dade College and its trustees, and Florida officials to stop the construction of Trump’s presidential library, charging that state officials violated the Constitution’s emoluments clause when they transferred almost three acres of prime waterfront land, worth between $67 million and $300 million, to Trump’s library foundation for $10. Trump has already said he wants to build a hotel on the site rather than a traditional library.

    Andrew Duehren and Alan Feuer of the New York Times reported Tuesday that the Department of Justice was working with Trump to settle his $10 billion lawsuit against the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) after a contractor during Trump’s first term leaked tax returns from thousands of wealthy individuals to the media. The Department of Justice and Trump were eager to settle before the judge in the case could rule on whether the case was valid, a decision that could easily go against Trump since he was both the plaintiff and, as the person overseeing the IRS, the defendant in the lawsuit.

    This evening, Katherine Faulders, Peter Charalambous, and Alexander Mallin of ABC News reported that Trump is in talks to drop the lawsuit in exchange for the government’s establishing a $1.7 billion fund to compensate those of Trump’s allies who claim they were harmed by the Biden administration’s alleged “weaponization” of the Department of Justice. Those eligible for payments from this taxpayer-funded account would include nearly 1,600 people convicted of committing crimes related to the January 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, people Trump pardoned or commuted the sentences of shortly after he took office in January 2025. While Trump himself will probably be barred from direct payments, entities associated with him will not be.

    A spokesperson for Trump’s legal team told the ABC News reporters: “President Trump continues to hold those who wrong America and Americans accountable.”

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 17,072
    mickeyrat said:
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    Everyone said Trump was manipulating the stock market for personal gain. Turns out you were right.

    New financial disclosure forms released today by the U.S. Office of Government Ethics show Trump made at least $220 million (and potentially up to $750 million) in financial transactions during the first three months of 2026, while he was actively setting tariff and economic policy that moved markets.

    The purchases included securities in Microsoft, Meta, Oracle, Broadcom, Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, Nvidia, Apple, and S&P 500 index funds. He was also selling Microsoft, Amazon, and Meta among the large sales. Trump was buying and selling hundreds of millions in stocks in the same companies affected by his own executive decisions.
    It’s sad how easy this was to see and how anyone could try and justify it or ignore it. 
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  • brianlux
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    And Scheky is worried about Cali? And people wonder how it still garners support? Tell us again how concerned you are about fraud and how CCOOTWH is fighting the good fight. Suckers. We’re so fucked. From LFAA:

    Vice President J.D. Vance was in Maine today to tout what the Trump administration claims is its push to combat fraud in public services. Vance blamed Democrats for fraud in Medicaid programs and vowed that the Trump administration would stop such fraud by refusing to distribute funds to states that were not cooperating with the federal government’s anti-fraud efforts. He announced yesterday the administration intends to withhold $1.3 billion in Medicaid payments from California.

    This alleged push against fraud is part of an old playbook the Republicans have used since at least 2000 in which they accuse the Democrats of their own weak points and misdeeds.

    This play was often associated with Republican strategist Karl Rove, but in 2024, Caroline Wazer of Snopes noted that it is most usually associated with Nazi propaganda in the 1930s. Accusing opponents of what you, yourself, are doing, muddies the waters and makes it hard for real accusations against you for the same thing to stick.

    Experts say fraud in federal programs is a real problem but that it is carried out primarily by transnational criminal organizations, not by individual recipients. Republican rhetoric claims a high rate of “improper payments,” but the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services itself stresses that “improper payment measurement is not a measure of fraud.” Rather, that term identifies payments where the paperwork provided by the state or provider was incomplete. Those numbers have been high recently because the government allowed states greater flexibility during the Covid-19 public health emergency. 

    According to the nonpartisan Maine Center for Economic Policy, MaineCare is overseen by both state and federal agencies, and the most recent federal review found that only about 0.1% of total program spending was in incorrect payments. Indeed, last month, Reed Shaw of Just Securitynoted that the administration’s claim to be rooting out fraud appears simply to be a new way to punish perceived political enemies that might have a better chance of getting through the courts than the administration’s previous attempts did.

    Accusing Democrats of fraud will also accomplish the political goal of muddying the waters to make it harder for voters to see that the Trump administration is the most corrupt U.S. administration in history. And concern about voters’ perceptions of corruption must be uppermost in the minds of administration advisors right now, since new Hungarian prime minister Péter Magyar’s landslide victory over Trump ally Viktor Orbán was driven in large part by voters’ fury at Orbán’s corruption.

    Muddying the waters for voters is the best the Trump administration can hope for because, for all the administration’s claims to be fighting fraud, Trump’s corruption is mind-boggling.

    He has fired or demoted twenty inspectors general—the people key to oversight—and in 2024 alone the people he has since fired or sidelined identified more than $50 billion in waste and abuse. Matthew Purdy and Luke Broadwater of the New York Times noted in March that in both terms as of March 2026, Trump has also pardoned or commuted the sentences of more than 70 donors or allies who were convicted of fraud. One, Philip Esformes, was convicted of stealing $1.3 billion from Medicare.

    Steven Greenhouse of The Guardianreminded readers today that in January, David D. Kirkpatrick of the New Yorker reported that the Trumps have pocketed about $4 billion, primarily through cryptocurrency enterprises. Greenhouse notes that Trump’s sons Eric and Don Jr. have invested in a drone manufacturer that is trying to sell weapons to Gulf countries currently at risk from the war their father started in Iran, and that the Pentagon recently awarded a $24 million contract to a robotics startup for which Eric is the “chief strategy advisor.”

    Even as Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner is acting as a chief negotiator for the U.S. in the Middle East, he has been trying to raise $5 billion from investors there for his investment firm. Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund, a sovereign wealth fund overseen by Saudi Crown prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS), has already invested $2 billion with Kushner.

    And then there are Trump’s vanity projects to remake the national capital. As Greenhouse notes, corporations and billionaires have dropped millions of dollars in donations for Trump’s ballroom where the East Wing used to be and his proposed presidential library in Miami. In December 2025, Karen Yourish, Kenneth P. Vogel, and Charlie Smart of the New York Timesestimated that Trump had raked in more than $2 billion for his projects or causes, more than half a billion of it from 346 people who each gave at least $250,000. Some of those people have received presidential pardons, others have been given jobs, and all have received access to the president.

    On May 11, Jonathan Allen, Peter Nicholas, Matt Dixon, Henry J. Gomez, and Allan Smith of NBC News reported that Trump is using the planned Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) event to be held on his birthday on the White House lawn as a new way for donors to funnel money to him. Although the UFC is paying for the event—and expects to lose as much as $30 million on it—and although tickets are technically free, Trump is picking who gets most of the tickets.

    Sponsorship packages that include ringside seats have been selling for $1 million or more. Neither the White House nor the UFC would comment on where the money is going. A Republican lobbyist told the NBC News journalists: “It’s basically been added to the list of approved entities to give undisclosed money to and get credit with Trump. They are raising a sh*t ton of money and have used it as another unofficial vehicle for corporate donors to give and gain favor with Trump.”

    And now Trump is in China on a state visit on which he took along seventeen CEOs of companies—many of which do business in China—including billionaires Elon Musk and Tim Cook of Apple. Together, the members of the delegation are worth more than a trillion dollars. Trump also took his son Eric, who runs the family business. As economist Paul Krugman said today, “He might as well have been walking around Beijing with a sign that says—in block capitals, of course, this is Trump—BRIBE ME.”

    On Tuesday a group of Miami residents sued Trump, his library fund, Florida governor Ron DeSantis, Miami Dade College and its trustees, and Florida officials to stop the construction of Trump’s presidential library, charging that state officials violated the Constitution’s emoluments clause when they transferred almost three acres of prime waterfront land, worth between $67 million and $300 million, to Trump’s library foundation for $10. Trump has already said he wants to build a hotel on the site rather than a traditional library.

    Andrew Duehren and Alan Feuer of the New York Times reported Tuesday that the Department of Justice was working with Trump to settle his $10 billion lawsuit against the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) after a contractor during Trump’s first term leaked tax returns from thousands of wealthy individuals to the media. The Department of Justice and Trump were eager to settle before the judge in the case could rule on whether the case was valid, a decision that could easily go against Trump since he was both the plaintiff and, as the person overseeing the IRS, the defendant in the lawsuit.

    This evening, Katherine Faulders, Peter Charalambous, and Alexander Mallin of ABC News reported that Trump is in talks to drop the lawsuit in exchange for the government’s establishing a $1.7 billion fund to compensate those of Trump’s allies who claim they were harmed by the Biden administration’s alleged “weaponization” of the Department of Justice. Those eligible for payments from this taxpayer-funded account would include nearly 1,600 people convicted of committing crimes related to the January 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, people Trump pardoned or commuted the sentences of shortly after he took office in January 2025. While Trump himself will probably be barred from direct payments, entities associated with him will not be.

    A spokesperson for Trump’s legal team told the ABC News reporters: “President Trump continues to hold those who wrong America and Americans accountable.”


    Cracks me up how Just Dance Vance and Dancing Donny have it in for California.  I will love it when they're both finally exposed for all time in the anals of history.
    Oops, little misspelling there.  Oh well. 😂

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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 33,161
    What a shithole country literally you can storm the capitol building take a dump in the offices of senators and get paid for it! I wonder if any posters from here will receive compensation for their hard work on 1/6 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 46,892
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    Justice Samuel Alito has fossil fuel stocks making up nearly a quarter of his personal investment portfolio. And he just voted to put a major climate accountability case on the Supreme Court’s docket after recusing himself from virtually identical cases for the exact same reason.

    The case is Boulder, Colorado’s lawsuit against ExxonMobil and Suncor Energy. Boulder is trying to hold the companies financially accountable for climate damages rising costs from wildfires, floods, and severe storms. The Colorado Supreme Court said the case could move forward. Now Exxon and Suncor are asking the U.S. Supreme Court to kill it, and the justices agreed to hear it this fall.

    Alito owns stock in ConocoPhillips and Phillips 66, both defendants in other cities’ climate lawsuits that would be directly affected by however the Court rules here. He knows this. He recused himself from Honolulu’s nearly identical climate case. He recused himself when Boulder’s own case came before the Court on a different question back in 2023.

    This time he didn’t. The Court’s defense? ConocoPhillips isn’t a named party in the Boulder case specifically. That’s it and that’s the whole argument.

    The Supreme Court published an ethics code in 2023 saying justices should step aside when their impartiality “might reasonably be questioned.” But there’s no enforcement mechanism. No one can make them follow it. It’s a code of conduct with no conduct.

    Meanwhile the Trump administration filed a brief urging the justices to take the case, and got exactly what it wanted. A ruling against Boulder wouldn’t just kill one lawsuit, it could wipe out dozens of similar cases across the country, from California to Hawaii to New Jersey.

    Big Oil has spent decades fighting accountability in legislatures, in regulatory agencies, and now in a Supreme Court where one of the justices is literally invested in the outcome.
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  • mickeyrat
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    I’m sorry MAGAs. I said trumpy had ripped 590,000 people off by not releasing a Trump phone like he promised. Actually, he finally did. Here’s what you got. 

    “… Trump Mobile’s T1 Phone is finally shipping after nearly a year of delays. It’s a $499 gold Android phone with Trump branding, a Snapdragon 7-series chip, 12GB RAM, 512GB storage, and a 50MP triple camera system. It appears to be a rebranded Chinese-made device with US final assembly bolted on.”

    “… Joe Gera responded to Trump Mobile’s big announcement: “You didn’t design shit. This is an off the shelf rebrand of a device made by Wingtech called the Revvl 7Pro 5G and was available at T-Mobile for $0. The 7Pro has been replaced by the 8Pro because this thing is over 18 months old. And this is old stock that they bought to avoid a lawsuit.”

    “… Trump Mobile turned off the comments section on their social media post because they were getting destroyed.

    “… Market design expert Jorge Montepeque: “For those curious, they didn’t ‘design’ anything. This is a re-plated Revvi 7Pro (a Chinese phone) that has been out of production for some time because Wingtech is currently selling the 8Pro. This phone is almost 2 years old.”

    “… “All ‘Trump Mobile’ did was purchase a bunch of unsold stock because their attempts to tell people who made a deposit they weren’t getting their money back was going to result in lawsuits. So congratulations, you’re all paying for useless, outdated, Chinese tech that has been re-skinned. Fell for it again!”

    Fools.
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  • cincybearcat
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    The amount of $ trump has basically stolen while MAGA morons only keep repeating "he's not taking a salary" is so crazy.  It happens in the light of day and MAGA moves their goalposts to defend it every time.  The phones a crap like that are annoying for sure, but its the insider trading for him, his family and his friends that is the real goal of his actions. 

    People, rightfully so, had serious concerns about Pelosi specifically and congress in general trading stocks when they have power and control over policy (We think business people are unethical....nah...well, some, but politicians take the cake).  But then you have the blissfully ignorant or blatantly unethical MAGA just watching trump and his dingalings steal $ in a even shadier way.  It's all so frustrating.
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 11,057
    The worst part of it is that it sets a bad precedent. Like, this is the new line and we have to hope that future leaders act more ethically. 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 12,087
    I've said it repeatedly that the brainwashed and grifted cultists, some of whom are on here, do NOT care about the corruption, the fraud, the lies, or the stealing. They don't care that their daily costs and their taxes are going up up up. They don't care that the richest of the rich are getting richer at their expense. They don't care about ignoring the Constitution or starting unnecessary wars. They don't care that American quality of life is depreciating. 

    All they care about is that the 🍊 🤡 💩 is happy and that libs have been owned.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 44,494
    I've said it repeatedly that the brainwashed and grifted cultists, some of whom are on here, do NOT care about the corruption, the fraud, the lies, or the stealing. They don't care that their daily costs and their taxes are going up up up. They don't care that the richest of the rich are getting richer at their expense. They don't care about ignoring the Constitution or starting unnecessary wars. They don't care that American quality of life is depreciating. 

    All they care about is that the 🍊 🤡 💩 is happy and that libs have been owned.
    Exactly. Own the lids at any cost. That cost including:
    - destroying democracy
    - wrecking yet more havoc on the environment 
    - trashing the economy 
    - making the U.S. the laughing stock nation of the world 
    - ruining what was already a lesser educational system 
    - flushing health care down the toilet 
    - and making life worse for the poor and under-educated which is what describes  many of the MAGA.  Own the libs, even if it means fucking ourselves and the whole country.
    Doesn't get much more foolish than that.
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 11,057
    Not that I expect any real back and forth dialog with not-actual conservatives here (MAGA types), but I'd like to see what the take is on this. 


  • nothingman44
    nothingman44 Posts: 1,497


    Some even claim to be PJ fans.
    Just curious, what do you mean by this?
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,401
    Not that I expect any real back and forth dialog with not-actual conservatives here (MAGA types), but I'd like to see what the take is on this. 


    They won’t care.  I was going to text a few Trumpers but realized it would be a waste of time.   I realized at the Springsteen show this past weekend that all of the stuff he listed off the administration is doing will be acknowledged by Republicans.  They just don’t care.