Canadian Politics Redux

ally12 · February 10

HughFreakingDillon said:

fuckin gross

Why is this happening?! The CPC is so far right that they should just merge with Bernier.

IMO, none of this would be happening if it wasn’t for Covid. I’m convinced that people just went down the rabbit hole of doom scrolling and reading during lock down.

Legal Citizen · February 11

Surprised no comments about the mass shooting in Canada on this thread. Seems to be several Canadians on here apparently.

PJ_Soul · February 11

Legal Citizen said:

Surprised no comments about the mass shooting in Canada on this thread. Seems to be several Canadians on here apparently.

No clue if it should even be discussed in a political thread. I'm definitely not thinking about it in political terms at all at the moment - it's not America.

seanwon · February 11

Legal Citizen said:

Surprised no comments about the mass shooting in Canada on this thread. Seems to be several Canadians on here apparently.

PJ_Soul said:

Legal Citizen said:

Surprised no comments about the mass shooting in Canada on this thread. Seems to be several Canadians on here apparently.

No clue if it should even be discussed in a political thread. I'm definitely not thinking about it in political terms at all at the moment - it's not America.

Disclaimer: The primary user of this account no longer posts personal opinions here. They post facts, sometimes controversial, meant for the purpose of gathering information for use in the upcoming midterm elections. Nothing is to be taken personally.

Canadian. Trans. Of course, this one won't be complained about. It's only Straight White American Males that cause gun violence. The rest are ok.

ally12 · February 11

PJ_Soul said:

Legal Citizen said:

Surprised no comments about the mass shooting in Canada on this thread. Seems to be several Canadians on here apparently.

No clue if it should even be discussed in a political thread. I'm definitely not thinking about it in political terms at all at the moment - it's not America.

This

erebus · February 11

This is not politically, gender or race based.
All gun violence is unacceptable and this is a tragedy for all those touched by this.

PJ_Soul · February 11

seanwon said:

Legal Citizen said:

Surprised no comments about the mass shooting in Canada on this thread. Seems to be several Canadians on here apparently.

PJ_Soul said:

Legal Citizen said:

Surprised no comments about the mass shooting in Canada on this thread. Seems to be several Canadians on here apparently.

No clue if it should even be discussed in a political thread. I'm definitely not thinking about it in political terms at all at the moment - it's not America.

Disclaimer: The primary user of this account no longer posts personal opinions here. They post facts, sometimes controversial, meant for the purpose of gathering information for use in the upcoming midterm elections. Nothing is to be taken personally.

Canadian. Trans. Of course, this one won't be complained about. It's only Straight White American Males that cause gun violence. The rest are ok.

That's a ridiculous thing to say, and definitely contrary to your little disclaimer.

HughFreakingDillon · February 12

seanwon said:

Legal Citizen said:

Surprised no comments about the mass shooting in Canada on this thread. Seems to be several Canadians on here apparently.

PJ_Soul said:

Legal Citizen said:

Surprised no comments about the mass shooting in Canada on this thread. Seems to be several Canadians on here apparently.

No clue if it should even be discussed in a political thread. I'm definitely not thinking about it in political terms at all at the moment - it's not America.

Disclaimer: The primary user of this account no longer posts personal opinions here. They post facts, sometimes controversial, meant for the purpose of gathering information for use in the upcoming midterm elections. Nothing is to be taken personally.

Canadian. Trans. Of course, this one won't be complained about. It's only Straight White American Males that cause gun violence. The rest are ok.

statistically speaking, yes, it is straight white american males that commit mass shootings. that is factual; so far the disclaimer holds up.

but this isn't a contest.

and no one said it was ok. making a sarcastic remark that it is ok, is in fact an opinion. So that's where your disclaimer falls apart. Sorry. Nothing personal.

HughFreakingDillon · February 12

and just for the record, LESS THAN POINT 1 PERCENT:

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Halifax2TheMax · February 12

HughFreakingDillon said:

and just for the record, LESS THAN POINT 1 PERCENT:

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

Don’t forget that this will be used in the US mid-term elections as well. Dems will counter with, “they’re not coming for your guns, they’re coming to shoot you”.

Zod · February 12

ally12 said:

I just figured that he won because there isn’t anyone in the party that is ready to lead.

IMO, PP is just a stand in until someone comes along that has PM qualities. Him kissing DJT ring and other pro USA behaviours is what got him to trouble.

Did anyone else see clips of Harper and Chrétien at geographical society awards. They talk about all of the issues. Alberta, DJT, USA. I’m trying to see if I can watch the whole thing.

Harper didn’t sign the petition to separate Alberta from Canada and he agrees that moving away from USA is a smart move.

do you think there is friction between Harper and PP?

Maybe. The challenge with PP, is that he can't figure out how to get the far right votes and centre-right votes at the same time. The far right will just splinter and create another party if you drift centre. If you appeal to the far right, you lost the right centre to the liberals.

I feel like harper was more centre-right. Not really all the way over appealing to the far right part of the spectrum.

PJ_Soul · February 12

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

and just for the record, LESS THAN POINT 1 PERCENT:

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.
Don’t forget that this will be used in the US mid-term elections as well. Dems will counter with, “they’re not coming for your guns, they’re coming to shoot you”.

I think where Canadians will take it is, "Look at what happened when this transgendered child didn't get the kind of social and health support she needed, and how that impacted her mental health." It also certainly isn't going unnoticed that her family were a bunch of gun nuts - something that Canadians do not tend to relate to at all. It just highlights how stupid gun culture can be, and why we don't want it here.

Parksy · February 12

PJ_Soul said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

and just for the record, LESS THAN POINT 1 PERCENT:

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.
Don’t forget that this will be used in the US mid-term elections as well. Dems will counter with, “they’re not coming for your guns, they’re coming to shoot you”.

I think where Canadians will take it is, "Look at what happened when this transgendered child didn't get the kind of social and health support she needed, and how that impacted her mental health." It also certainly isn't going unnoticed that her family were a bunch of gun nuts - something that Canadians do not tend to relate to at all. It just highlights how stupid gun culture can be, and why we don't want it here.

+1

erebus · February 13

I would like to see the focus on mental health problems. I am not sure if it is a federal or provincial responsibility, but I do know that it has been severely underfunded and cut. Psychiatric hospitals closed forcing mental health patients into general ER’s, having regular first responders to deal upfront with more cases and also a contributing factor in the spike in homelessness.

in general I do not believe Canada has a gun problem but maybe I am naive.

Parksy · February 13

erebus said:

I would like to see the focus on mental health problems. I am not sure if it is a federal or provincial responsibility, but I do know that it has been severely underfunded and cut. Psychiatric hospitals closed forcing mental health patients into general ER’s, having regular first responders to deal upfront with more cases and also a contributing factor in the spike in homelessness.

in general I do not believe Canada has a gun problem but maybe I am naive.

I personally think it should fall on both in terms of responsibility (Provincial and Federal). Like most health units, run provincially, but should receive federal funding.

I too do not believe we have a gun problem here in Canada, but to your point we absolutely.... absolutely.... absolutely have a health problem and a policing/judicial problem. Sadly, I don't see an end in sight.

Zod · February 13

It's tough. Our government(s) seem to have gone broke. Here in BC the NDP went from surplus to massive deficit in 60 seconds. They seemed to have meant well, but have no idea on how to fund their programs.

Sort of like the Federal Government introduced Dental Care and and the pretty limited pharmacare plan on credit.

I think it's going to get tough in other areas. There's no way their going to scale care homes to keep up with the silver tsunami. It's already a 2 year wait here. It's going to get rough on people and families that don't have assets for private care.

erebus · February 18

Another conservative floor crosser.
these upcoming by-elections will be interesting

ekwipt · February 19

Just saw David Letterman & Zach Galifianakis live in Vancouver and learned that Zach (who lives in BC a lot of the time)
calls Poilievre “Vladimir Poutine” 🤣

Parksy · February 20

erebus said:

Another conservative floor crosser.
these upcoming by-elections will be interesting

agreed. I'm interested in knowing what goes on behind the scenes for these floor crossings to evolve. I won't take the politicians at their word.. 'doing it for national unity' I think that's just chum for the constituents.

HughFreakingDillon · February 22

From a post on Facebook: just to clear the air one last time about the convoy:

There’s a lot of misinformation floating around about the illegal occupation of Ottawa during the pandemic, so let’s clear this up properly.

No, the courts did not rule that the occupation was legal.

No, they did not say the protesters were justified.

No, they did not bless what happened in Canada’s capital.

The government appealed a lower court decision about the use of the Emergencies Act. That ruling focused narrowly on whether invoking federal emergency powers met the legal threshold at that moment in time.

The judge said it did not, because by then Ontario had already declared a provincial emergency and police technically already had sufficient legal tools available.

That’s it. That’s the entire finding.

It was a procedural ruling about jurisdiction and thresholds. It was not a declaration that the occupation was lawful.

The occupation of Ottawa was illegal from the start.

Streets were blockaded.

Residents were harassed.

Businesses were forced to close.

Critical infrastructure was disrupted.

Police issued lawful orders to leave.

People who stayed after those orders were given were breaking the law.

The Supreme Court of Canada has never ruled that the convoy was legal. It has never ruled that participants were justified. It has never overturned the fact that this was an unlawful occupation.

Trying to spin a technical ruling about emergency powers into “the convoy was right” is pure disinformation.

The occupation was illegal.

People who stayed broke the law.

They were criminals.

Period.

If anyone tells you otherwise, they’re either misinformed or deliberately lying

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