MLB 2026 Off season

Cliffy6745 said:

Kellerman and Bill Simmons had a good conversation on the yankees and all the labor stuff a couple months ago. A couple things in the labor situation that I thought was good...

The way to incentivize the the smaller market teams to spend and to be competitive is giving them a similar approach to the NBA where only the original team has the ability to pay them the most amount of money giving them a better chance of retaining stars. There's no incentive for them to pay big bucks for one guy which it might get them a few extra wins or make them a bit more competitive but is going to hurt the business. Having the ability to retain stars will give them a better chance at being competitive and more incentive to spend than just having a floor.

Also made the point that the Yankees are actually a poor team now with Dodgers and Mets being owned by the people they are and that this is a hobby for them and not where they actually made their money. For the Steinbrenner's the Yankees are their business. That said, F Hal.

That said, we're not seeing baseball next year. No shot.

Lerxst1992 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Kellerman and Bill Simmons had a good conversation on the yankees and all the labor stuff a couple months ago. A couple things in the labor situation that I thought was good...

The way to incentivize the the smaller market teams to spend and to be competitive is giving them a similar approach to the NBA where only the original team has the ability to pay them the most amount of money giving them a better chance of retaining stars. There's no incentive for them to pay big bucks for one guy which it might get them a few extra wins or make them a bit more competitive but is going to hurt the business. Having the ability to retain stars will give them a better chance at being competitive and more incentive to spend than just having a floor.

Also made the point that the Yankees are actually a poor team now with Dodgers and Mets being owned by the people they are and that this is a hobby for them and not where they actually made their money. For the Steinbrenner's the Yankees are their business. That said, F Hal.

That said, we're not seeing baseball next year. No shot.

The small market teams just lost their regional networks, are facing 60% reduction in their TV money, and they’re gonna sign these huge contracts that we are seeing? 

Baseball reportedly lost $2 billion last year and Cohen stated he lost $350 million. The Mets had terrific attendance and Cohen is still spending. I can’t imagine he wants a salary cap. 

More than half the teams lost their local TV network and with the replacement of mlb.tv they face losing the majority of their local money. It’s obvious that baseball has a significant financial problem and the small market teams are losing money. ESPN was willing to end their relationship with baseball until baseball offered them the out of market streaming rights. With the disappearance of over a half the games on regional sports networks, The future losses will only increase.

Fans that saying there should be a salary floor without a much higher revenue share, Are basically in favor of putting half the league into bankruptcy. if that’s what the players association wants then they ain’t exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.

The answer….a much much higher luxury tax. a team like the Dodgers spending 400 million should be paying at least half of that number back to the small market clubs and that money goes into a salary cap floor would make sense.


 

Wobbie said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Kellerman and Bill Simmons had a good conversation on the yankees and all the labor stuff a couple months ago. A couple things in the labor situation that I thought was good...

The way to incentivize the the smaller market teams to spend and to be competitive is giving them a similar approach to the NBA where only the original team has the ability to pay them the most amount of money giving them a better chance of retaining stars. There's no incentive for them to pay big bucks for one guy which it might get them a few extra wins or make them a bit more competitive but is going to hurt the business. Having the ability to retain stars will give them a better chance at being competitive and more incentive to spend than just having a floor.

Also made the point that the Yankees are actually a poor team now with Dodgers and Mets being owned by the people they are and that this is a hobby for them and not where they actually made their money. For the Steinbrenner's the Yankees are their business. That said, F Hal.

That said, we're not seeing baseball next year. No shot.

The small market teams just lost their regional networks, are facing 60% reduction in their TV money, and they’re gonna sign these huge contracts that we are seeing? 

Baseball reportedly lost $2 billion last year and Cohen stated he lost $350 million. The Mets had terrific attendance and Cohen is still spending. I can’t imagine he wants a salary cap. 

More than half the teams lost their local TV network and with the replacement of mlb.tv they face losing the majority of their local money. It’s obvious that baseball has a significant financial problem and the small market teams are losing money. ESPN was willing to end their relationship with baseball until baseball offered them the out of market streaming rights. With the disappearance of over a half the games on regional sports networks, The future losses will only increase.

Fans that saying there should be a salary floor without a much higher revenue share, Are basically in favor of putting half the league into bankruptcy. if that’s what the players association wants then they ain’t exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.

The answer….a much much higher luxury tax. a team like the Dodgers spending 400 million should be paying at least half of that number back to the small market clubs and that money goes into a salary cap floor would make sense.


 

The gate fees go into the owners pocket though.  Only Day to Day Baseball operations count as revenue for them, as how I read what the owners call revenue.

from what I read, none of the owners have “opened their books,” with the exception of the publicly owned Braves.

there is no doubt some teams put a bigger percentage of their “revenue” into payroll but e.g. if the dodgers have $100M (arbitrary figure) and spend 73% (as reported) they still pocket more than a team with $50 that spends 50%. I don’t know the answer but something needs to be done to address “competitive balance.”

igotid88 said:

Carlos Beltran and Andruw Jones are your new HOFers

Wobbie said:

igotid88 said:

Carlos Beltran and Andruw Jones are your new HOFers

some cheaters get in, some don’t.

don’t get me wrong…both are worthy IMO.

tempo_n_groove said:

Luis Robert to the Mets.  If healthy it's a great add.  Im guessing they don't want Bellinger anymore?

Wobbie said:

just found out andruw was a wife beater…so we got a beater and a cheater….”character clause” is certainly selectively applied. 😡

xavier mcdaniel said:

eeriepadave said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Wobbie said:

igotid88 said:

Carlos Beltran and Andruw Jones are your new HOFers

some cheaters get in, some don’t.

don’t get me wrong…both are worthy IMO.

Jones was on the fence for me.  Beltran is not a HOFer.

Yeah I agree. Was hoping for Utley but knew it wasn’t gonna happen.

He's inching closer, took a big jump this year.

Wobbie said:

just found out andruw was a wife beater…so we got a beater and a cheater….”character clause” is certainly selectively applied. 😡

The fact that Bonds isn't in is horseshit