Ankle-biting Democrats

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,856
    Tim Simmons said:
    mickeyrat said:

     Now that Democrats secured these wins, it’s time for Leader Thune to keep his promise to schedule a vote on the ACA tax credits in December and we will see to it that he makes good on his word for the millions of Americans worried they won’t be able to afford health care in January.

    If the GOP fucks around with it in December the situation will be much worse for them...I'm thinking (hoping) we're ok on this one at least
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,342
    Yes. Republicans famously pay the price for bad faith actions.

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,342
    Even King Centrist, Ezra Klein agrees this is dumb

    https://archive.is/20251110102039/https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/10/opinion/government-shutdown-democrats-republicans.html

    “If I were in the Senate, I wouldn’t vote for this compromise. Shutdowns are an opportunity to make your arguments, and the country was just starting to pay attention. If Trump wanted to cancel flights over Thanksgiving rather than keep health care costs down, I don’t see why Democrats should save him from making his priorities so exquisitely clear. And I worry that Democrats have just taught Trump that they will fold under pressure. That’s the kind of lesson he remembers.”

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,342
    edited November 10
    But do it on a moral/greater vision stance, rather than a politically calculated one thats just 1 round in a 12 round fight

  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,528
    Tim Simmons said:
    Even King Centrist, Ezra Klein agrees this is dumb

    https://archive.is/20251110102039/https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/10/opinion/government-shutdown-democrats-republicans.html

    “If I were in the Senate, I wouldn’t vote for this compromise. Shutdowns are an opportunity to make your arguments, and the country was just starting to pay attention. If Trump wanted to cancel flights over Thanksgiving rather than keep health care costs down, I don’t see why Democrats should save him from making his priorities so exquisitely clear. And I worry that Democrats have just taught Trump that they will fold under pressure. That’s the kind of lesson he remembers.”


    Centrist?

     Uh, Ezra, did you read your paper? they get to do this again in two months and people get heat and food for the winter? Food til late  next year? Are you spending too much time in winter free LA?

    That’s a good Hal trick, I miss his input the last day. So and so is a moderate and here is what he thinks!

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    If I get their rankings correct,  That is between skews left and strong left. 

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,342
    edited November 10
    Mr. "Charlie Kirk did politics the right way" is certainly not very left. 

  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 3,340
    edited November 10
    Dem voters rn


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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,982
    if they were going to cave, why not do it a month ago? now it looks like the dems are the ones that made people suffer and got nothing out of it.

    way to go schumer. step down immediately.
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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 3,340

    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 3,340

    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,528
    DE4173 said:




    Kinda sums up politics and political forums perfectly. There is no reason and balance that the extremes can’t destroy.
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 3,340

    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
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    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,856
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    if they were going to cave, why not do it a month ago? now it looks like the dems are the ones that made people suffer and got nothing out of it.

    way to go schumer. step down immediately.
    I'm on board with caving....but I do feel like Schumer should have come forward to make the case as to why. He was either completely ignored or completely ineffective. Or both.

    The GOP was clearly not budging on the ACA and they were doing everything they could to avoid funding SNAP. How many fucking court orders are required to release the funds? They were trying to get the SC involved to delay further.

    I think the dems did the right thing. Get people fed now. Don't create more chaos around the holidays for the poor children that need these benefits right now. 

    The GOP will have to own the ACA in December instead of whenever this shutdown was going to end....
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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 3,340
    Jon Stewart "Can't F**king Believe" Democrats Caved on the Shutdown | The Daily Show


    https://youtu.be/eFI6MwlLJ08?si=ypYO6nj0eLV88MFs


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  • Tim Simmons
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    DE4173 said:




    Kinda sums up politics and political forums perfectly. There is no reason and balance that the extremes can’t destroy.
    jesus dude. maybe you aren't cut out for forums. 

  • Tim Simmons
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,982
    fetterman fell down and landed on his face and is now in the hospital. not sure if that belongs in the democrat thread, but it happened. 
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  • mickeyrat
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
    fetterman fell down and landed on his face and is now in the hospital. not sure if that belongs in the democrat thread, but it happened. 

    wondr if its medication related or lack thereof or another stroke?

    big guy, long way to fall. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,973
    mickeyrat said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    fetterman fell down and landed on his face and is now in the hospital. not sure if that belongs in the democrat thread, but it happened. 

    wondr if its medication related or lack thereof or another stroke?

    big guy, long way to fall. 

    It was a vascular fibrillation flare up that made him dizzy or made him faint, apparently. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,982
    whatever it was, why are so many senators falling down these days?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."

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