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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,381
    Go Beavers said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Newsweek isn’t a real publication. 

    How trumpian and authoritarian…fake media haha. 

    At least there was acknowledgement Sanders did say that. Perhaps a dialogue is possible? Nah.
    Your reaction to the Sander’s quote just says that you bought a lie from the right about the left wanting open borders. 

    Do you even realize how disingenuous your comments are? I posted a quote from Sanders.

    The characterization of open borders belongs to you and Jo

    Perhaps it's time for you to admit error here and make that accusation against Jo who's the one who used the phrase in question
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,659
    edited October 27
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Newsweek isn’t a real publication. 

    How trumpian and authoritarian…fake media haha. 

    At least there was acknowledgement Sanders did say that. Perhaps a dialogue is possible? Nah.
    Your reaction to the Sander’s quote just says that you bought a lie from the right about the left wanting open borders. 

    Do you even realize how disingenuous your comments are? I posted a quote from Sanders.

    The characterization of open borders belongs to you and Jo

    Perhaps it's time for you to admit error here and make that accusation against Jo who's the one who used the phrase in question
    You quoted him referring to not having any borders and said ‘A wokester who gets it”. What’s he getting? 
    Post edited by Go Beavers on
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,381
    Go Beavers said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Newsweek isn’t a real publication. 

    How trumpian and authoritarian…fake media haha. 

    At least there was acknowledgement Sanders did say that. Perhaps a dialogue is possible? Nah.
    Your reaction to the Sander’s quote just says that you bought a lie from the right about the left wanting open borders. 

    Do you even realize how disingenuous your comments are? I posted a quote from Sanders.

    The characterization of open borders belongs to you and Jo

    Perhaps it's time for you to admit error here and make that accusation against Jo who's the one who used the phrase in question
    You quoted him referring to not having any borders and said ‘A wokester who gets it”. What’s he getting? 

    That sanders said biden did a terrible job securing the Border.

    Whether the problem is a secure border or Biden's refusal to deal with internal undocumented migrants the fact remains that New York City had a serious problem 2021 through 2023 which forced Biden  to sign an executive order in 2024. This is how the forum here operates.. we throw memes around.. we make jokes and it's impossible to have a discussion about facts
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,659
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Newsweek isn’t a real publication. 

    How trumpian and authoritarian…fake media haha. 

    At least there was acknowledgement Sanders did say that. Perhaps a dialogue is possible? Nah.
    Your reaction to the Sander’s quote just says that you bought a lie from the right about the left wanting open borders. 

    Do you even realize how disingenuous your comments are? I posted a quote from Sanders.

    The characterization of open borders belongs to you and Jo

    Perhaps it's time for you to admit error here and make that accusation against Jo who's the one who used the phrase in question
    You quoted him referring to not having any borders and said ‘A wokester who gets it”. What’s he getting? 

    That sanders said biden did a terrible job securing the Border.

    Whether the problem is a secure border or Biden's refusal to deal with internal undocumented migrants the fact remains that New York City had a serious problem 2021 through 2023 which forced Biden  to sign an executive order in 2024. This is how the forum here operates.. we throw memes around.. we make jokes and it's impossible to have a discussion about facts
    I think nyc was dealing with a large number of asylees. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,193
    According to a complaint filed in federal court after the incident, a federal agent blatantly violated an existing court order (against using excessive force on journalists and demonstrators) by pointing a gun in a veteran’s face, saying “Bang, bang” and “You’re dead, liberal.” https://trib.al/FiE0QnJ
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  • mickeyrat
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    Go Beavers said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Newsweek isn’t a real publication. 

    How trumpian and authoritarian…fake media haha. 

    At least there was acknowledgement Sanders did say that. Perhaps a dialogue is possible? Nah.
    Your reaction to the Sander’s quote just says that you bought a lie from the right about the left wanting open borders. 

    Do you even realize how disingenuous your comments are? I posted a quote from Sanders.

    The characterization of open borders belongs to you and Jo

    Perhaps it's time for you to admit error here and make that accusation against Jo who's the one who used the phrase in question
    You quoted him referring to not having any borders and said ‘A wokester who gets it”. What’s he getting? 

    That sanders said biden did a terrible job securing the Border.

    Whether the problem is a secure border or Biden's refusal to deal with internal undocumented migrants the fact remains that New York City had a serious problem 2021 through 2023 which forced Biden  to sign an executive order in 2024. This is how the forum here operates.. we throw memes around.. we make jokes and it's impossible to have a discussion about facts
    I think nyc was dealing with a large number of asylees. 

    many of which were bussed in from texas and florida with no coordination or notice as I recall?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mickeyrat said:
    According to a complaint filed in federal court after the incident, a federal agent blatantly violated an existing court order (against using excessive force on journalists and demonstrators) by pointing a gun in a veteran’s face, saying “Bang, bang” and “You’re dead, liberal.” https://trib.al/FiE0QnJ

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  • tempo_n_groove
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    Bentleyspop said:
    josevolution said:
    No one here ever said open borders are good the only thing I’ve always said is we need immigration reforms but since this administration can barely run the government I’d say that’ll it never happen! 
    A. No one has ever called for "open borders."
    B. There haven't been "open borders" in decades. 
    C. The only people who ever mention "open borders" are...wait for it...retRUmplican politicians and the brainwashed maga cultists. 
    Didn't Bernie just say that without using that very word?
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,659
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    josevolution said:
    No one here ever said open borders are good the only thing I’ve always said is we need immigration reforms but since this administration can barely run the government I’d say that’ll it never happen! 
    A. No one has ever called for "open borders."
    B. There haven't been "open borders" in decades. 
    C. The only people who ever mention "open borders" are...wait for it...retRUmplican politicians and the brainwashed maga cultists. 
    Didn't Bernie just say that without using that very word?
    Is your question suggesting no one on  the left can question Sanders? 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,833
    Go Beavers said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    josevolution said:
    No one here ever said open borders are good the only thing I’ve always said is we need immigration reforms but since this administration can barely run the government I’d say that’ll it never happen! 
    A. No one has ever called for "open borders."
    B. There haven't been "open borders" in decades. 
    C. The only people who ever mention "open borders" are...wait for it...retRUmplican politicians and the brainwashed maga cultists. 
    Didn't Bernie just say that without using that very word?
    Is your question suggesting no one on  the left can question Sanders? 
    Nope, that Sanders basically called the border open since it was not secure.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,216
    Something I haven't seen is there data available that demonstrates that the country was getting worse because of illegal immigration and refugees? 

    And I'm not being argumentative here. I'm genuinely asking if there were studies that showed things were worse for Americans because of looser border standards. 




    My suspicion is that it was more vibes based because of right wing media driving messaging riding the coattails of a general relaxed border policy, but I'd love to see data to the contrary.


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