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  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,812
    Anyone see Patel said FBI will LOWER their hiring and training standards so they get more of those ICE types into law enforcement?  
    Nothing will matter anymore
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,646

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  • mickeyrat
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    shecky said:
    needs to push to revoke what ever status cuban boat lift people have. 
    send em back. 
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  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,791

    Try to find a DC cop that has ever experienced this before - no murders in the last 11 days.
    You can't, because it's never happened before in our lifetimes. Why are Dems angered by this?
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 3,006
    I think fifty-two days (11/22/11-1/12/12) is the longest period. 🤷‍♂️
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,646
    not saying fault of this or previous admins , just that this needs addressed.


    Microsoft is required to regularly provide U.S. officials with its plan for keeping government data safe from hacking. Yet a copy of the tech giant’s security plan obtained by ProPublica makes no reference to the company’s China-based operations.

    Read more: https://propub.li/3UGnsnN
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,437
    So the executive order to pursue criminal charges against people who burn the flag seems like a way to bait a lawsuit to get it back up to the sycophant SCOTUS so they can get the 1989 case flipped in a 6 - 3 decision that will suppress 1st amendment rights. The continued government over reach is astounding.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 3,006
    Crazy!

    /Cues up the 7/10/98 San Diego boot for RITFW 
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    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,437
    edited August 25
    tbergs said:
    So the executive order to pursue criminal charges against people who burn the flag seems like a way to bait a lawsuit to get it back up to the sycophant SCOTUS so they can get the 1989 case flipped in a 6 - 3 decision that will suppress 1st amendment rights. The continued government over reach is astounding.
    It's another topic that democrats will lose on though because more Americans agree with him about it then don't. Maybe bible burning bans can be next. Nationalism digs in for the long haul.

    “All over the country they’re burning flags,” Trump said in the Oval Office on Monday when he signed the order. “All of over the world they burn the American flag, and as you know, through a very sad court, I guess it was a 5-4 decision, they called it freedom of speech.

    Trump also claimed “you burn a flag, you get one year in jail” as he signed the executive order, but the order itself doesn’t include details about a potential jail sentence.

    Trump has long advocated for criminalizing flag burning. In 2016, he posted on social media: “Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag – if they do, there must be consequences – perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!”

    Most Americans tend to agree with Trump on this issue. Polling conducted by YouGov in 2020 showed nearly half of Americans support making flag destruction illegal, while about one-third believe it’s permissible. An updated YouGov survey from September 2023 found that 59% of Americans now consider burning an American flag during protests to be “always unacceptable”.

    Trump signs order to criminally charge those who burn US flag in protest | Donald Trump | The Guardian https://share.google/x4YHoIFUrRPxHQVFk
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,460
    Books and records burning events coming soon to a town near you.

    Did he sign that EO with the snap of his suit jacket for added flourish?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,003
    tbergs said:
    tbergs said:
    So the executive order to pursue criminal charges against people who burn the flag seems like a way to bait a lawsuit to get it back up to the sycophant SCOTUS so they can get the 1989 case flipped in a 6 - 3 decision that will suppress 1st amendment rights. The continued government over reach is astounding.
    It's another topic that democrats will lose on though because more Americans agree with him about it then don't. Maybe bible burning bans can be next. Nationalism digs in for the long haul.

    “All over the country they’re burning flags,” Trump said in the Oval Office on Monday when he signed the order. “All of over the world they burn the American flag, and as you know, through a very sad court, I guess it was a 5-4 decision, they called it freedom of speech.

    Trump also claimed “you burn a flag, you get one year in jail” as he signed the executive order, but the order itself doesn’t include details about a potential jail sentence.

    Trump has long advocated for criminalizing flag burning. In 2016, he posted on social media: “Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag – if they do, there must be consequences – perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!”

    Most Americans tend to agree with Trump on this issue. Polling conducted by YouGov in 2020 showed nearly half of Americans support making flag destruction illegal, while about one-third believe it’s permissible. An updated YouGov survey from September 2023 found that 59% of Americans now consider burning an American flag during protests to be “always unacceptable”.

    Trump signs order to criminally charge those who burn US flag in protest | Donald Trump | The Guardian https://share.google/x4YHoIFUrRPxHQVFk

    As a minority party losing nearly five million net registered voters, democrats need to do a much better job picking its battles.


    supporting the freedom to burn the flag should be one they don’t waste their energy on, while the party reels in its lack of overall voter support.
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 3,006
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,593
    tbergs said:
    tbergs said:
    So the executive order to pursue criminal charges against people who burn the flag seems like a way to bait a lawsuit to get it back up to the sycophant SCOTUS so they can get the 1989 case flipped in a 6 - 3 decision that will suppress 1st amendment rights. The continued government over reach is astounding.
    It's another topic that democrats will lose on though because more Americans agree with him about it then don't. Maybe bible burning bans can be next. Nationalism digs in for the long haul.

    “All over the country they’re burning flags,” Trump said in the Oval Office on Monday when he signed the order. “All of over the world they burn the American flag, and as you know, through a very sad court, I guess it was a 5-4 decision, they called it freedom of speech.

    Trump also claimed “you burn a flag, you get one year in jail” as he signed the executive order, but the order itself doesn’t include details about a potential jail sentence.

    Trump has long advocated for criminalizing flag burning. In 2016, he posted on social media: “Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag – if they do, there must be consequences – perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!”

    Most Americans tend to agree with Trump on this issue. Polling conducted by YouGov in 2020 showed nearly half of Americans support making flag destruction illegal, while about one-third believe it’s permissible. An updated YouGov survey from September 2023 found that 59% of Americans now consider burning an American flag during protests to be “always unacceptable”.

    Trump signs order to criminally charge those who burn US flag in protest | Donald Trump | The Guardian https://share.google/x4YHoIFUrRPxHQVFk

    As a minority party losing nearly five million net registered voters, democrats need to do a much better job picking its battles.


    supporting the freedom to burn the flag should be one they don’t waste their energy on, while the party reels in its lack of overall voter support.
    Ditch the First Amendment. Great idea
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,003
    tbergs said:
    tbergs said:
    So the executive order to pursue criminal charges against people who burn the flag seems like a way to bait a lawsuit to get it back up to the sycophant SCOTUS so they can get the 1989 case flipped in a 6 - 3 decision that will suppress 1st amendment rights. The continued government over reach is astounding.
    It's another topic that democrats will lose on though because more Americans agree with him about it then don't. Maybe bible burning bans can be next. Nationalism digs in for the long haul.

    “All over the country they’re burning flags,” Trump said in the Oval Office on Monday when he signed the order. “All of over the world they burn the American flag, and as you know, through a very sad court, I guess it was a 5-4 decision, they called it freedom of speech.

    Trump also claimed “you burn a flag, you get one year in jail” as he signed the executive order, but the order itself doesn’t include details about a potential jail sentence.

    Trump has long advocated for criminalizing flag burning. In 2016, he posted on social media: “Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag – if they do, there must be consequences – perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!”

    Most Americans tend to agree with Trump on this issue. Polling conducted by YouGov in 2020 showed nearly half of Americans support making flag destruction illegal, while about one-third believe it’s permissible. An updated YouGov survey from September 2023 found that 59% of Americans now consider burning an American flag during protests to be “always unacceptable”.

    Trump signs order to criminally charge those who burn US flag in protest | Donald Trump | The Guardian https://share.google/x4YHoIFUrRPxHQVFk

    As a minority party losing nearly five million net registered voters, democrats need to do a much better job picking its battles.


    supporting the freedom to burn the flag should be one they don’t waste their energy on, while the party reels in its lack of overall voter support.
    Ditch the First Amendment. Great idea

    No one is saying ditch it. But your gang doesn’t have the votes to do anything about it, and whining about it will not get your party any more representation in dc.


    isnt the point in politics to win elections, then shape the agenda to its view?


    mahers point made again. 
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,437
    DE4173 said:
    So then senator Biden proposed a bill to change a law, but let me guess, it didn't pass? I guess I missed the present day bill proposing this instead of an edict from king Don. Maybe hard for some to fathom, but the same people who don't want Trump to do it would have said the same thing if Biden tried it during his term. This doesn't prove the point these people think it does besides the fact that they follow a person ni matter what and not their own ideals or values. This is just dumb.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,593
    tbergs said:
    tbergs said:
    So the executive order to pursue criminal charges against people who burn the flag seems like a way to bait a lawsuit to get it back up to the sycophant SCOTUS so they can get the 1989 case flipped in a 6 - 3 decision that will suppress 1st amendment rights. The continued government over reach is astounding.
    It's another topic that democrats will lose on though because more Americans agree with him about it then don't. Maybe bible burning bans can be next. Nationalism digs in for the long haul.

    “All over the country they’re burning flags,” Trump said in the Oval Office on Monday when he signed the order. “All of over the world they burn the American flag, and as you know, through a very sad court, I guess it was a 5-4 decision, they called it freedom of speech.

    Trump also claimed “you burn a flag, you get one year in jail” as he signed the executive order, but the order itself doesn’t include details about a potential jail sentence.

    Trump has long advocated for criminalizing flag burning. In 2016, he posted on social media: “Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag – if they do, there must be consequences – perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!”

    Most Americans tend to agree with Trump on this issue. Polling conducted by YouGov in 2020 showed nearly half of Americans support making flag destruction illegal, while about one-third believe it’s permissible. An updated YouGov survey from September 2023 found that 59% of Americans now consider burning an American flag during protests to be “always unacceptable”.

    Trump signs order to criminally charge those who burn US flag in protest | Donald Trump | The Guardian https://share.google/x4YHoIFUrRPxHQVFk

    As a minority party losing nearly five million net registered voters, democrats need to do a much better job picking its battles.


    supporting the freedom to burn the flag should be one they don’t waste their energy on, while the party reels in its lack of overall voter support.
    Ditch the First Amendment. Great idea

    No one is saying ditch it. But your gang doesn’t have the votes to do anything about it, and whining about it will not get your party any more representation in dc.


    isnt the point in politics to win elections, then shape the agenda to its view?


    mahers point made again. 
    You think Maher’s going to say just ignore it? I thought most of his schtick centered around free speech? 
  • Bentleyspop
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,477
    tbergs said:
    tbergs said:
    So the executive order to pursue criminal charges against people who burn the flag seems like a way to bait a lawsuit to get it back up to the sycophant SCOTUS so they can get the 1989 case flipped in a 6 - 3 decision that will suppress 1st amendment rights. The continued government over reach is astounding.
    It's another topic that democrats will lose on though because more Americans agree with him about it then don't. Maybe bible burning bans can be next. Nationalism digs in for the long haul.

    “All over the country they’re burning flags,” Trump said in the Oval Office on Monday when he signed the order. “All of over the world they burn the American flag, and as you know, through a very sad court, I guess it was a 5-4 decision, they called it freedom of speech.

    Trump also claimed “you burn a flag, you get one year in jail” as he signed the executive order, but the order itself doesn’t include details about a potential jail sentence.

    Trump has long advocated for criminalizing flag burning. In 2016, he posted on social media: “Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag – if they do, there must be consequences – perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!”

    Most Americans tend to agree with Trump on this issue. Polling conducted by YouGov in 2020 showed nearly half of Americans support making flag destruction illegal, while about one-third believe it’s permissible. An updated YouGov survey from September 2023 found that 59% of Americans now consider burning an American flag during protests to be “always unacceptable”.

    Trump signs order to criminally charge those who burn US flag in protest | Donald Trump | The Guardian https://share.google/x4YHoIFUrRPxHQVFk