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grooveamaticgrooveamatic Posts: 1,374
edited January 2005 in Words and Music...Communication
Rival: discuss--
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  • Hitch-HikerHitch-Hiker Posts: 2,873
    What a great song. When I first bought Binaural that was (and still is) definitely a stand out track for me. A testament to the songwriting talents of Mr. Gossard. I love the lyrics. An interesting spin on the Columbine incident.
    I'll Ride The Wave Where It Takes Me
  • powertoolpowertool Posts: 22
    Love the Milan 2000 version!
    speaking as a child of the 90's
  • Uncle FloydUncle Floyd Posts: 52
    it is an interesting diversion on Binaural
  • heaveheave Posts: 159
    i like the song....

    i remember one time my sister's dog was over at my place, and i put on rival.... and at the start of the song it was trying to find where the dog was... it was running up to the speakers, looking behind them... it was great!
  • grooveamaticgrooveamatic Posts: 1,374
    the lyrics are like real poetry...not sappy goo poetry like most people think of poetry, but language boiled down...succinct...
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  • a country doctora country doctor Posts: 145
    yes, the lyrics are great, but the music isn't THAT good
    I couldn't remember that I ever sang this song, or that I ever thought of the lyrics
    ex equo(spelled this way?) with sleight of hand it's my least favourite binaural track
    BANZÄÄÄ

    When he was six, he believed that the moon overhead followed him
    By nine, he deciphered the illusion, trading magic for fact, no trade-backs
    So this is what it's like to be an adult?
    If he only knew now what he knew then
  • grooveamaticgrooveamatic Posts: 1,374
    Originally posted by a country doctor
    yes, the lyrics are great, but the music isn't THAT good
    I couldn't remember that I ever sang this song, or that I ever thought of the lyrics
    ex equo(spelled this way?) with sleight of hand it's my least favourite binaural track

    sorry dude...you are missing out!
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  • a country doctora country doctor Posts: 145
    Originally posted by grooveamatic
    sorry dude...you are missing out!

    hehe
    BANZÄÄÄ

    When he was six, he believed that the moon overhead followed him
    By nine, he deciphered the illusion, trading magic for fact, no trade-backs
    So this is what it's like to be an adult?
    If he only knew now what he knew then
  • capybaraletcapybaralet Posts: 145
    Originally posted by a country doctor
    yes, the lyrics are great, but the music isn't THAT good
    I couldn't remember that I ever sang this song, or that I ever thought of the lyrics
    ex equo(spelled this way?) with sleight of hand it's my least favourite binaural track


    those are some of my favorites!!!!

    of the girl
    grievance
    rival
    sleight of hand



    how perfect is that???
    everything=3


    2-1-0
    4-3-2-1-0
    2---2--3---3--2----1
    ---0
    0
    0
    2-2-2-3-3-3-2-2-0

    M
  • smilehabitsmilehabit Posts: 88
    all my rivals will see what i have in store
    Somtimes i know, sometimes i rise,sometimes i fall,sometimes i dont,sometimes i cringe,somtimes i live sometimes i walk,sometimes i kneel,somtimes i speek of nothing at all,sometimes i reach to myself dear god

    official redmosquito#3
  • FancyFacadeFancyFacade Posts: 330
    Originally posted by grooveamatic
    the lyrics are like real poetry...not sappy goo poetry like most people think of poetry, but language boiled down...succinct...

    i agree--very good writing
  • offhegoes09offhegoes09 Posts: 328
    Binaural in general is a masterpiece...it can't be said enough how under-rated this album is. I hated it the first 10 times I listened, and then it grew on me and I can't take it out of my player
    "The whole world will be different soon"
  • NothrwisemtyoomNothrwisemtyoom Posts: 1
    Rival is incredible. Of all the songs on Binural this track has to be the one that benefits most from the production. The guitars sound almost toylike. Awesome live but I'd stick with the studio version. It's all about the keys. They make that song. They sound so fucking mad, but in a playful way. Perfect.
  • Sad&AloneSad&Alone Posts: 15
    I've never really liked Rival that much myself. That and evacuation I think shouldve been replaced by sad, fatal, and/or in the moonlight.
  • Mad MohabMad Mohab Posts: 310
    the 'every grain' part is awesome, as is the song structure itself.
  • KCPJFanKCPJFan Posts: 58
    It is a decent song on that album, but not a stand out track like Light Years, Sleight Of hand, or Nothing As It Seems. I personally find Soon Forget on Binaural to have the most true and meaningful lyrics on the entire album.
    ".....this land is mine, this land is free
    i'll do what i want, but irresponsibly
    it's evolution baby...."
  • Mad MohabMad Mohab Posts: 310
    this song is keeping me afloat right now, I'm in a rainy shit hole of a situation, this song is sounding great.
  • Mad MohabMad Mohab Posts: 310
    there, all better now, still keeping it real playing this song.
  • MohabMohab Posts: 310
    JustOut wrote:
    the 'every grain' part is awesome, as is the song structure itself.



    Hey man, that part is up with my favorite pearl jam music. Yeah, I like how its shaped too, the song, if you look at it (as you obviously have!). Sometimes when i hear an indecipherable part like that I'm afraid to hear the real lyrics because I like the words i think i hear so much. but this one blew my shitty interpretation out of the water.

    take care


    I thought it was 'every inch thats left to crawl, on the slide of every one'.
  • Cropduster84Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    capybaralet wrote:
    those are some of my favorites!!!!

    of the girl
    grievance
    rival
    sleight of hand


    Swap Grievance for NAIS and you have my four favourites.

    Of The Girl is one of my ALL TIME favoutire Pearl Jam songs.
    'The more I studied religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself.' - Sir Richard Francis Burton
  • 3sheets3sheets Posts: 290
    another one i still want to hear live. They don't play it enough. I also wish they'd pick up the tempo a bit live, give it more crunch and speed. Love it when the combine it w/ Jeremy; a nice little one-two. Rival and Of the Girl are standouts on Binaural, and 2 of Mr. Gossard's best songs.
    Live Free or Die!
  • 3sheets3sheets Posts: 290
    oh yeah, i forgot my rival story. The first time I put on Binaural, I was taking a walk around midnight or so down along the road where I used to live. The area is pretty rural, so no lights (except the moon and stars) or anything except woods and pastures. Well, when Rival came on, and I heard Dakota barking, it freaked me out b/c it was pitchblack that night and I thought some rabid dog was gonna attack me any second. After I nearly had a heart attack, I realized it was on the album and had a good laugh.
    Live Free or Die!
  • Cropduster84Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    3sheets wrote:
    Rival and Of the Girl are standouts on Binaural, and 2 of Mr. Gossard's best songs.


    Yes! Totally agree.

    To me Riot Act lacked Stone input greatly.
    'The more I studied religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself.' - Sir Richard Francis Burton
  • grooveamaticgrooveamatic Posts: 1,374
    3sheets wrote:
    oh yeah, i forgot my rival story. The first time I put on Binaural, I was taking a walk around midnight or so down along the road where I used to live. The area is pretty rural, so no lights (except the moon and stars) or anything except woods and pastures. Well, when Rival came on, and I heard Dakota barking, it freaked me out b/c it was pitchblack that night and I thought some rabid dog was gonna attack me any second. After I nearly had a heart attack, I realized it was on the album and had a good laugh.


    haha---quite funny
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  • capybaraletcapybaralet Posts: 145
    I love rival... from "of the girl" on through parting ways is amazing, its the best part of binaural, maybe even the best run of songs ever. I just wish soon forget wasn't there:

    Of the girl
    grievance
    rival
    sleight of hand
    parting ways


    ... that would be sweetness.
    everything=3


    2-1-0
    4-3-2-1-0
    2---2--3---3--2----1
    ---0
    0
    0
    2-2-2-3-3-3-2-2-0

    M
  • MohabMohab Posts: 310
    Is it just me or could Binaural have been condensed made the greatest Ep of all times?

    Instead its just my favourite lp of all times.
  • Righteous JammerRighteous Jammer Posts: 509
    one of my all time favorites
    It doesnt hurt.... when I bleed
    but memories...they eat me
    I've seen it all before,...
    bring it on cause I'm no victim.
    -Ghost
  • western pearlwestern pearl Posts: 632
    Rival has to be one of my favorite songs on binaural maybe of all their work. great song
    "Everyone is a patriot in some form or another.... i prefer the intelligent ones."

    "She fell funny"

    "Klaus Daimler, 40, engineer, calm, collected, German"
  • I am mineI am mine Posts: 29
    Rival and Thin air are both my favorites of Binaural......both Stone songs....That man rules! Rivals lyrics and music are both great....
    To the universe, I don't mean a thing, but there is just one word I still believe and it's .....LOVE!

    Proud EVENFLOW PSYCHO member #0021.....WWWWAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

    Amsterdam '96, Arnhem '06, Antwerpen '06, Dusseldorf '07, Nijmegen '07 and Werchter '07
  • NOTHINGFANNOTHINGFAN Posts: 69
    Rival fucking ROCKS!
    Oh help me, help me from myself!!!

    Theres not going to be an accoustic version of Blood or anything like that, so feel free to sit down.
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