GOP v1.1

mickeyrat
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For all things gop related to include the parties new direction....

this replaces the closed thread. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    what exactly is their new direction? it has been the maga party for 9 years, and they are not changing until trump is jailed or dead.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,830
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    what exactly is their new direction? it has been the maga party for 9 years, and they are not changing until trump is jailed or dead.
    Does a dead or jailed trump = changing GOP?  I have concerns.
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,537
    I think Trump not being in the picture creates an unstable vacuum. But yes, very little will change after Trump. But I think you’ll see more threads of extremism look like the ridiculous thing they are post Trump. 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,537
    Like when you have losers like Josh Hawley sponsoring a bill to curb stock investment for federal politicians, it shows there is some sense there (it’s a good idea). So it does give me hope that there is normalcy (ish) on the other side of Trump. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    cincybearcat said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    what exactly is their new direction? it has been the maga party for 9 years, and they are not changing until trump is jailed or dead.
    Does a dead or jailed trump = changing GOP?  I have concerns.
    he is a cult leader. once a cult leader is jailed or dead, the cult falls apart because the next "leader" is less charismatic and holds less control over the followers.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,574
    cincybearcat said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    what exactly is their new direction? it has been the maga party for 9 years, and they are not changing until trump is jailed or dead.
    Does a dead or jailed trump = changing GOP?  I have concerns.
    I don’t care as long as one of these scenarios happens like yesterday 
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    what exactly is their new direction? it has been the maga party for 9 years, and they are not changing until trump is jailed or dead.
    Does a dead or jailed trump = changing GOP?  I have concerns.
    he is a cult leader. once a cult leader is jailed or dead, the cult falls apart because the next "leader" is less charismatic and holds less control over the followers.
    I don’t love the ChatGPT route for answers, but I think these all make sense. I asked it “ How do cults manage to replace a leader? Are there examples of this succeeding or failing in history? How about political dictatorships or authoritarian regimes?”

    It gave a lot of info, but distilled the success and failure patterns into a matrix. Leading to success:

    Institutional strength - Party or church structure survives leader

    Succession plan -     Party or church structure survives leader

    Ideological flexibility -     Can adapt to new conditions

    Charisma dependence -     Low (transferable power)

    Violence at transition -     Peaceful handover or managed transition

    I think these make sense, but omit important things: does Trump care to be replaced by someone powerful, or did he just want to enjoy his power? Could the party institute a succession plan without (or even with) Trump’s involvement? What if he doesn’t participate in a permission structure for enabling transfer of power? What if the pot’s already about to boil and the violence is prevalent? What if the leader doesn’t want to transfer power but the party wants to save face - would they impeach to preserve some semblance of power instead of none? Well, I guess we’ll find out the answers to these questions in about two years when Trump’s campaign for a third term begins. 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,367
    An 18-year-old accused of having sex with a 13-year-old pleaded guilty to reduced charges after the law was changed.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,367
    "Lindsey Langston, a Florida Republican state committeewoman and the reigning Miss United States, has filed a restraining order against Florida Republican Rep. Cory Mills, after reporting him to local and state law enforcement for harassment, threatening to release sexual videos, and to harm future boyfriends."
    https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/miss-united-states-lindsey-langston-files-restraining-order-rep-cory-mills
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    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,367
    Vance just out here having the time of his life on the taxpayer dime. Ski trips in VT, Greenland excursion, Disneyland, special boat outing, now he’s off to the Cotswolds. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/06/jd-vance-ohio-lake-water-levels
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    good thing vance canceled tonight's super secret meeting at his house on how they are gonna cover up the epstein situation.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,574
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    good thing vance canceled tonight's super secret meeting at his house on how they are gonna cover up the epstein situation.
    Apparently they didn’t have enough whiteout to erase the saviors name from all the events he attended with Epstein! I’m sure there are plans B & C 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    edited August 7
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    good thing vance canceled tonight's super secret meeting at his house on how they are gonna cover up the epstein situation.
    I bet there are lots of polygraph tests going on today to find who leaked it (the secret meeting)
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,100
    That’s rich.

    Trump rips Duncan over switch to Democratic Party: ‘Total loser’

    President Trump ripped former Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan for joining the Democratic party and falling out of the GOP, calling him a “total loser” for making the switch.

    In an early Friday post on Truth Social, Trump said that Duncan was no longer wanted in the GOP because all he did was complain.

    “Failed former Lt. Governor Geoff Duncan, of Georgia, is a total loser. Was never able to get anything done, all he ever did was complain,” the president wrote. “We didn’t want him in the Republican Party any longer, so I’m told he became a Democrat.”

    He added, “Good riddance Geoff. You don’t even have a chance!!!”

    Duncan on Tuesday pushed an op-ed published by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, saying the party switch has been coming for a while. The former lieutenant governor said his journey to becoming a Democrat began when Trump tried to “steal” the 2020 presidential election, an effort the former lieutenant governor denounced at the time. 

    He said that his time serving in elected office taught him the best way to “love my neighbor” is through public policy. 

    Duncan, in his essay, called out Trump’s signature tax and spending bill, which he argued would leave Medicaid funding “in shambles.” He also criticized the legislation’s cuts to funding for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program and the impact it will have on preventing children from being hungry at school. 

    Additionally, he slammed the Trump administration’s immigration policies that he argues, “have turned into a lesson on how not to love your neighbor.” 

    Duncan endorsed former Vice President Harris’s campaign in the 2024 presidential election and spoke at the Democratic National Convention in August. He was later expelled from the Georgia Republican Party.

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