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  • mickeyrat
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mickeyrat said:

    And he’s not the only one. There’s waaaaay too many of those “Christian” and “family values” types.
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  • mickeyrat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:

    And he’s not the only one. There’s waaaaay too many of those “Christian” and “family values” types.

    didnt post the gop county chair in NC , grandfather, doped his granddaughters dairy queen then tried to blame it on trans person...
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  • mickeyrat
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    Gov. Spencer Cox: "Is this the end of a dark chapter in our history, or the beginning of a darker chapter in our history?...We have not evolved in a way that we are capable of processing those types of violence imagery. We've seen another one with the gruesome stabbing very recently that went very viral. This is not good for us. it is not good for us to consume. Social media is a cancer on our society right now, and I would encourage people to log off, turn off, touch grass, hug a family member, go out and do good in your community. That is happening and it's happening organically right now."
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  • njhaley1
    njhaley1 Posts: 961
    mickeyrat said:
    Gov. Spencer Cox: "Is this the end of a dark chapter in our history, or the beginning of a darker chapter in our history?...We have not evolved in a way that we are capable of processing those types of violence imagery. We've seen another one with the gruesome stabbing very recently that went very viral. This is not good for us. it is not good for us to consume. Social media is a cancer on our society right now, and I would encourage people to log off, turn off, touch grass, hug a family member, go out and do good in your community. That is happening and it's happening organically right now."
    He's not wrong.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,719
    i think it is the beginning for a darker chapter.

    what cox said is all well and good, but people prefer to look at their screens than touch grass. a huge number of people are isolated and do not have family members to hug. 
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,129
    This is wild and pretty eye opening. If you've got a little time, its really interesting and worth it.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/society/undercover-maga-alt-right/


  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,998
    Tim Simmons said:
    This is wild and pretty eye opening. If you've got a little time, its really interesting and worth it.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/society/undercover-maga-alt-right/


    A real nice movement they’ve got over there, eh? We all should be so proud of Charlie for not being so extreme, right? I mean, he was just going into the front lines to debate college kids, right? From The Nation article you linked:

    As we talked, the ballroom’s lights turned on, signaling that the staff wanted us to leave. Nelson told me there was a Project Veritas party across the street, and we headed over, debating whether New York City should be the capital of America. Once we were outside, people unaffiliated with TPUSA walked by, some of whom were not white. Nelson, undeterred, said loudly that we should kick out all the Jamaicans and Haitians who live in New York City.

    “My mentality is the Anglo nation is one of the greatest nations to have ever walked the earth,” he said. “You know, we should not have to worry about like, ‘Oh my gosh, there’s a bunch of nasty Jamaicans and Haitians that are gonna rob me.’ Well, then beat them up, then beat the crap out of them, kick them out of the city, kick them out of the country, take their homes.”

    I was relieved once we were inside, where it was unlikely anyone would get upset if they overheard him. Nelson’s glee in planning a genocide was disgusting. Nodding along with conspiracies was one thing, but condoning violence—even if it was just a fantasy—was a step too far. It turned out that Project Veritas had sprung for an open bar, and I took advantage of it. I had never been blackout drunk at an event before, but after listening to Nelson for hours, I granted myself an exception.

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  • mickeyrat
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,719
    mickeyrat said:

    that is the narrative that the gop is going to push and most people will believe it.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,312
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    that is the narrative that the gop is going to push and most people will believe it.


    So immediately offer trump what he is asking for, then go on fox and tell them they gave him exactly what he asked for. Since his main claim is a lie, it’s giving up nothing. Nope, too lost in identity politics to figure that one out.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,676
    Vance is just straight up lying about the health subsidies right now. He brought up this scenario of how people visit ERs and are shocked that people that can't speak English are there and suggested they are illegals, etc.

    How can someone look at a person and tell they are illegal? This is so wrong.
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  • Lerxst1992
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    just offer them an amendment to the CR that prevents funding for undocumented access to Medicare ACA, etc. Then go on fox non stop and tell them they gave everything trump asked for.


    But Dems would prefer politics of blame and calling the opponent a liar. It hasn’t worked, but yet, it’s mostly what they do.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,676
    Lerxst1992 said:
    just offer them an amendment to the CR that prevents funding for undocumented access to Medicare ACA, etc. Then go on fox non stop and tell them they gave everything trump asked for.


    But Dems would prefer politics of blame and calling the opponent a liar. It hasn’t worked, but yet, it’s mostly what they do.
    It's unnecessary...you have to have an SSN to participate
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,312
    Gern Blansten said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    just offer them an amendment to the CR that prevents funding for undocumented access to Medicare ACA, etc. Then go on fox non stop and tell them they gave everything trump asked for.


    But Dems would prefer politics of blame and calling the opponent a liar. It hasn’t worked, but yet, it’s mostly what they do.
    It's unnecessary...you have to have an SSN to participate
    Trump is claiming Dems want to fund what the left calls undocumented immigrants. So that suggestion is offering him what he is asking for. Play his game then go on his channel and tell his people you gave him exactly what he asked for.
  • mickeyrat
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    Lerxst1992 sa8id:
    just offer them an amendment to the CR that prevents funding for undocumented access to Medicare ACA, etc. Then go on fox non stop and tell them they gave everything trump asked for.


    But Dems would prefer politics of blame and calling the opponent a liar. It hasn’t worked, but yet, it’s mostly what they do.

    offer an amendment for something that is already law?
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,676
    I mean...sure, why not

    I'm just fucking about ready to go insane listening to these fuckwads lie about it
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,719
    how about we offer an amendment that trump will go back on, or just not grant the funding for??

    he has the power to line item reject that shit now, in case you guys haven't been paying attention to supreme court rulings.

    in my opinion, the dems should never, ever, give up their only piece of leverage.
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,195
    mickeyrat said:
    Lerxst1992 sa8id:
    just offer them an amendment to the CR that prevents funding for undocumented access to Medicare ACA, etc. Then go on fox non stop and tell them they gave everything trump asked for.


    But Dems would prefer politics of blame and calling the opponent a liar. It hasn’t worked, but yet, it’s mostly what they do.

    offer an amendment for something that is already law?
    Lerxst is right about this one. An easy win and a new way to change the messaging putting it all on trump.  Instead of just saying we don’t need to do that it’s already law, put it in there and fight stupid with stupid. Instead Dems will look down their nose in superiority and lose.
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