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Not so fast ICE is detaining Spanish and black peoples full stop! If I travel outside this country even though I carry American passport getting back in is where it gets dangerous! They are racially profiling immigrants brown folks like meGet_Right said:
I cannot get beyond the paywalls. My point is simply that I, and similarly situated US citizens, can come and go as we please without any fear. In fact my family and I have traveled internationally a few times this year with zero issues. I mentioned other countries to illustrate that their border rules are even stricter than the US rules. But you do not give two fucks about global standards as a point of reference for an intelligent conversation about border control. Of course there are outliers, as there is with traffic stops here in the US, but if ICE detains you, 95% of the time there is a reason. Even if that reason may be thin.Halifax2TheMax said:Yea, just fucking stop, alright (copy and pasted from the Retirement thread). Guess you're taking the position that they had "bad intentions" or "improper credentials", should have obeyed ICE and that ICE is right, eh?You only have to fear ICE if you are here with bad intentions or improper credentials. Try getting into Korea or Singapore with no visa. They do not put you up, they kick you out. There are no tents in Korea. Do you really think established US citizens over 50 with more than 30 years of hard work are at risk? Bullshit. More of your nonsense and scare tactics. We are fine. So get real and stop. Because you have no idea.QuoteICE handcuffs 71-year-old grandmother, a U.S. citizen, at San Diego immigration court
US citizen, Army veteran detained at California immigration raid | CNN
Four U.S. citizen children detained by Border Patrol in WA released | The Seattle Times
US citizen detained by immigration officials who dismissed his Real ID as fake | US immigration | The Guardian
Yes, they're not all over 50 but I didn't realize age was a determining factor of whether your constitutional rights applied. Must be nice living in ignorance, eh? I could give two fucks about what they do in Singapore or Korea, as well, for the record. Why not mention North Korea and Saudi while you're at it?jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
None of those Americans were entering or leaving the United States of Fascism. Try again or continue to bury your head in the sand. Also, none of the countries you’ve thus far have mentioned have a US Bill of Rights, which grants unalienable “rights.” But you know, Korea and Singapore.Get_Right said:
I cannot get beyond the paywalls. My point is simply that I, and similarly situated US citizens, can come and go as we please without any fear. In fact my family and I have traveled internationally a few times this year with zero issues. I mentioned other countries to illustrate that their border rules are even stricter than the US rules. But you do not give two fucks about global standards as a point of reference for an intelligent conversation about border control. Of course there are outliers, as there is with traffic stops here in the US, but if ICE detains you, 95% of the time there is a reason. Even if that reason may be thin.Halifax2TheMax said:Yea, just fucking stop, alright (copy and pasted from the Retirement thread). Guess you're taking the position that they had "bad intentions" or "improper credentials", should have obeyed ICE and that ICE is right, eh?You only have to fear ICE if you are here with bad intentions or improper credentials. Try getting into Korea or Singapore with no visa. They do not put you up, they kick you out. There are no tents in Korea. Do you really think established US citizens over 50 with more than 30 years of hard work are at risk? Bullshit. More of your nonsense and scare tactics. We are fine. So get real and stop. Because you have no idea.QuoteICE handcuffs 71-year-old grandmother, a U.S. citizen, at San Diego immigration court
US citizen, Army veteran detained at California immigration raid | CNN
Four U.S. citizen children detained by Border Patrol in WA released | The Seattle Times
US citizen detained by immigration officials who dismissed his Real ID as fake | US immigration | The Guardian
Yes, they're not all over 50 but I didn't realize age was a determining factor of whether your constitutional rights applied. Must be nice living in ignorance, eh? I could give two fucks about what they do in Singapore or Korea, as well, for the record. Why not mention North Korea and Saudi while you're at it?
Speaking of an “intelligent” conversation about border control. What a fucking bubble. You might want to read up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights
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Not so fast ICE is detaining Spanish and black peoples full stop! If I travel outside this country even though I carry American passport getting back in is where it gets dangerous! They are racially profiling immigrants brown folks like meGet_Right said:
I cannot get beyond the paywalls. My point is simply that I, and similarly situated US citizens, can come and go as we please without any fear. In fact my family and I have traveled internationally a few times this year with zero issues. I mentioned other countries to illustrate that their border rules are even stricter than the US rules. But you do not give two fucks about global standards as a point of reference for an intelligent conversation about border control. Of course there are outliers, as there is with traffic stops here in the US, but if ICE detains you, 95% of the time there is a reason. Even if that reason may be thin.Halifax2TheMax said:Yea, just fucking stop, alright (copy and pasted from the Retirement thread). Guess you're taking the position that they had "bad intentions" or "improper credentials", should have obeyed ICE and that ICE is right, eh?You only have to fear ICE if you are here with bad intentions or improper credentials. Try getting into Korea or Singapore with no visa. They do not put you up, they kick you out. There are no tents in Korea. Do you really think established US citizens over 50 with more than 30 years of hard work are at risk? Bullshit. More of your nonsense and scare tactics. We are fine. So get real and stop. Because you have no idea.QuoteICE handcuffs 71-year-old grandmother, a U.S. citizen, at San Diego immigration court
US citizen, Army veteran detained at California immigration raid | CNN
Four U.S. citizen children detained by Border Patrol in WA released | The Seattle Times
US citizen detained by immigration officials who dismissed his Real ID as fake | US immigration | The Guardian
Yes, they're not all over 50 but I didn't realize age was a determining factor of whether your constitutional rights applied. Must be nice living in ignorance, eh? I could give two fucks about what they do in Singapore or Korea, as well, for the record. Why not mention North Korea and Saudi while you're at it?
Jose I would guess you and your family will have no problem. Even if they question you, it will be done in a minute. They are not after you.0 -
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Halifax2TheMax said:
None of those Americans were entering or leaving the United States of Fascism. Try again or continue to bury your head in the sand. Also, none of the countries you’ve thus far have mentioned have a US Bill of Rights, which grants unalienable “rights.” But you know, Korea and Singapore.Get_Right said:
I cannot get beyond the paywalls. My point is simply that I, and similarly situated US citizens, can come and go as we please without any fear. In fact my family and I have traveled internationally a few times this year with zero issues. I mentioned other countries to illustrate that their border rules are even stricter than the US rules. But you do not give two fucks about global standards as a point of reference for an intelligent conversation about border control. Of course there are outliers, as there is with traffic stops here in the US, but if ICE detains you, 95% of the time there is a reason. Even if that reason may be thin.Halifax2TheMax said:Yea, just fucking stop, alright (copy and pasted from the Retirement thread). Guess you're taking the position that they had "bad intentions" or "improper credentials", should have obeyed ICE and that ICE is right, eh?You only have to fear ICE if you are here with bad intentions or improper credentials. Try getting into Korea or Singapore with no visa. They do not put you up, they kick you out. There are no tents in Korea. Do you really think established US citizens over 50 with more than 30 years of hard work are at risk? Bullshit. More of your nonsense and scare tactics. We are fine. So get real and stop. Because you have no idea.QuoteICE handcuffs 71-year-old grandmother, a U.S. citizen, at San Diego immigration court
US citizen, Army veteran detained at California immigration raid | CNN
Four U.S. citizen children detained by Border Patrol in WA released | The Seattle Times
US citizen detained by immigration officials who dismissed his Real ID as fake | US immigration | The Guardian
Yes, they're not all over 50 but I didn't realize age was a determining factor of whether your constitutional rights applied. Must be nice living in ignorance, eh? I could give two fucks about what they do in Singapore or Korea, as well, for the record. Why not mention North Korea and Saudi while you're at it?
Speaking of an “intelligent” conversation about border control. What a fucking bubble. You might want to read up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights
Keep using sand as your reference. I do not need schooling on the the Bill of Rights. I actually think James Madison was way ahead of his time. Read Federalist paper Number 10. That is what is happening in the US right now. Regardless of ICE we still have one of the most open borders in the world. I have no problem with the government enforcing rules, even if that enforcement may be harsh. Heck, even local fish and wildlife has approached me with hands on guns. Show them ID and a license then they are friendly. It's not complicated. You cannot just show up and be afforded rights. Those rights are a privilege.0 -
Still living in a bubble. Seems the Gnome is a wee little defensive.Get_Right said:Halifax2TheMax said:
None of those Americans were entering or leaving the United States of Fascism. Try again or continue to bury your head in the sand. Also, none of the countries you’ve thus far have mentioned have a US Bill of Rights, which grants unalienable “rights.” But you know, Korea and Singapore.Get_Right said:
I cannot get beyond the paywalls. My point is simply that I, and similarly situated US citizens, can come and go as we please without any fear. In fact my family and I have traveled internationally a few times this year with zero issues. I mentioned other countries to illustrate that their border rules are even stricter than the US rules. But you do not give two fucks about global standards as a point of reference for an intelligent conversation about border control. Of course there are outliers, as there is with traffic stops here in the US, but if ICE detains you, 95% of the time there is a reason. Even if that reason may be thin.Halifax2TheMax said:Yea, just fucking stop, alright (copy and pasted from the Retirement thread). Guess you're taking the position that they had "bad intentions" or "improper credentials", should have obeyed ICE and that ICE is right, eh?You only have to fear ICE if you are here with bad intentions or improper credentials. Try getting into Korea or Singapore with no visa. They do not put you up, they kick you out. There are no tents in Korea. Do you really think established US citizens over 50 with more than 30 years of hard work are at risk? Bullshit. More of your nonsense and scare tactics. We are fine. So get real and stop. Because you have no idea.QuoteICE handcuffs 71-year-old grandmother, a U.S. citizen, at San Diego immigration court
US citizen, Army veteran detained at California immigration raid | CNN
Four U.S. citizen children detained by Border Patrol in WA released | The Seattle Times
US citizen detained by immigration officials who dismissed his Real ID as fake | US immigration | The Guardian
Yes, they're not all over 50 but I didn't realize age was a determining factor of whether your constitutional rights applied. Must be nice living in ignorance, eh? I could give two fucks about what they do in Singapore or Korea, as well, for the record. Why not mention North Korea and Saudi while you're at it?
Speaking of an “intelligent” conversation about border control. What a fucking bubble. You might want to read up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights
Keep using sand as your reference. I do not need schooling on the the Bill of Rights. I actually think James Madison was way ahead of his time. Read Federalist paper Number 10. That is what is happening in the US right now. Regardless of ICE we still have one of the most open borders in the world. I have no problem with the government enforcing rules, even if that enforcement may be harsh. Heck, even local fish and wildlife has approached me with hands on guns. Show them ID and a license then they are friendly. It's not complicated. You cannot just show up and be afforded rights. Those rights are a privilege.
https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/kristi-noem-racial-profiling-immigration-ice-rcna220067
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That article says nothing. The bubble is the US. The current admin is enforcing the bubble. You either have a right to be in the bubble or you don't. And if you don't, then do not be surprised by the tactics to remove you. Even though they might be more harsh than in the past.0
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White privilege ass shitGet_Right said:Halifax2TheMax said:
None of those Americans were entering or leaving the United States of Fascism. Try again or continue to bury your head in the sand. Also, none of the countries you’ve thus far have mentioned have a US Bill of Rights, which grants unalienable “rights.” But you know, Korea and Singapore.Get_Right said:
I cannot get beyond the paywalls. My point is simply that I, and similarly situated US citizens, can come and go as we please without any fear. In fact my family and I have traveled internationally a few times this year with zero issues. I mentioned other countries to illustrate that their border rules are even stricter than the US rules. But you do not give two fucks about global standards as a point of reference for an intelligent conversation about border control. Of course there are outliers, as there is with traffic stops here in the US, but if ICE detains you, 95% of the time there is a reason. Even if that reason may be thin.Halifax2TheMax said:Yea, just fucking stop, alright (copy and pasted from the Retirement thread). Guess you're taking the position that they had "bad intentions" or "improper credentials", should have obeyed ICE and that ICE is right, eh?You only have to fear ICE if you are here with bad intentions or improper credentials. Try getting into Korea or Singapore with no visa. They do not put you up, they kick you out. There are no tents in Korea. Do you really think established US citizens over 50 with more than 30 years of hard work are at risk? Bullshit. More of your nonsense and scare tactics. We are fine. So get real and stop. Because you have no idea.QuoteICE handcuffs 71-year-old grandmother, a U.S. citizen, at San Diego immigration court
US citizen, Army veteran detained at California immigration raid | CNN
Four U.S. citizen children detained by Border Patrol in WA released | The Seattle Times
US citizen detained by immigration officials who dismissed his Real ID as fake | US immigration | The Guardian
Yes, they're not all over 50 but I didn't realize age was a determining factor of whether your constitutional rights applied. Must be nice living in ignorance, eh? I could give two fucks about what they do in Singapore or Korea, as well, for the record. Why not mention North Korea and Saudi while you're at it?
Speaking of an “intelligent” conversation about border control. What a fucking bubble. You might want to read up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights
I have no problem with the government enforcing rules, even if that enforcement may be harsh. Heck, even local fish and wildlife has approached me with hands on guns. Show them ID and a license then they are friendly. It's not complicated. You cannot just show up and be afforded rights. Those rights are a privilege.
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See, this is the slow walk to authoritarianism. Similar to what is expected of minorities during traffic stops and police interactions. Don't worry, even if they do question you, just comply and it will all be fine. What a weird perspective from a side closely associated with don't tread on me ideology.Get_Right said:josevolution said:
Not so fast ICE is detaining Spanish and black peoples full stop! If I travel outside this country even though I carry American passport getting back in is where it gets dangerous! They are racially profiling immigrants brown folks like meGet_Right said:
I cannot get beyond the paywalls. My point is simply that I, and similarly situated US citizens, can come and go as we please without any fear. In fact my family and I have traveled internationally a few times this year with zero issues. I mentioned other countries to illustrate that their border rules are even stricter than the US rules. But you do not give two fucks about global standards as a point of reference for an intelligent conversation about border control. Of course there are outliers, as there is with traffic stops here in the US, but if ICE detains you, 95% of the time there is a reason. Even if that reason may be thin.Halifax2TheMax said:Yea, just fucking stop, alright (copy and pasted from the Retirement thread). Guess you're taking the position that they had "bad intentions" or "improper credentials", should have obeyed ICE and that ICE is right, eh?You only have to fear ICE if you are here with bad intentions or improper credentials. Try getting into Korea or Singapore with no visa. They do not put you up, they kick you out. There are no tents in Korea. Do you really think established US citizens over 50 with more than 30 years of hard work are at risk? Bullshit. More of your nonsense and scare tactics. We are fine. So get real and stop. Because you have no idea.QuoteICE handcuffs 71-year-old grandmother, a U.S. citizen, at San Diego immigration court
US citizen, Army veteran detained at California immigration raid | CNN
Four U.S. citizen children detained by Border Patrol in WA released | The Seattle Times
US citizen detained by immigration officials who dismissed his Real ID as fake | US immigration | The Guardian
Yes, they're not all over 50 but I didn't realize age was a determining factor of whether your constitutional rights applied. Must be nice living in ignorance, eh? I could give two fucks about what they do in Singapore or Korea, as well, for the record. Why not mention North Korea and Saudi while you're at it?
Jose I would guess you and your family will have no problem. Even if they question you, it will be done in a minute. They are not after you.
Basically admitting, yeah, you'll probably be racially profiled, but it's fine just give them what they want and they'll move on because they'll quickly determine you're not the "other" they are looking for. What a simplistic and ignorant viewpoint.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
Sometimes the mask comes off & one's suspicions are confirmed.0
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White privilege ass shitGet_Right said:Halifax2TheMax said:
None of those Americans were entering or leaving the United States of Fascism. Try again or continue to bury your head in the sand. Also, none of the countries you’ve thus far have mentioned have a US Bill of Rights, which grants unalienable “rights.” But you know, Korea and Singapore.Get_Right said:
I cannot get beyond the paywalls. My point is simply that I, and similarly situated US citizens, can come and go as we please without any fear. In fact my family and I have traveled internationally a few times this year with zero issues. I mentioned other countries to illustrate that their border rules are even stricter than the US rules. But you do not give two fucks about global standards as a point of reference for an intelligent conversation about border control. Of course there are outliers, as there is with traffic stops here in the US, but if ICE detains you, 95% of the time there is a reason. Even if that reason may be thin.Halifax2TheMax said:Yea, just fucking stop, alright (copy and pasted from the Retirement thread). Guess you're taking the position that they had "bad intentions" or "improper credentials", should have obeyed ICE and that ICE is right, eh?You only have to fear ICE if you are here with bad intentions or improper credentials. Try getting into Korea or Singapore with no visa. They do not put you up, they kick you out. There are no tents in Korea. Do you really think established US citizens over 50 with more than 30 years of hard work are at risk? Bullshit. More of your nonsense and scare tactics. We are fine. So get real and stop. Because you have no idea.QuoteICE handcuffs 71-year-old grandmother, a U.S. citizen, at San Diego immigration court
US citizen, Army veteran detained at California immigration raid | CNN
Four U.S. citizen children detained by Border Patrol in WA released | The Seattle Times
US citizen detained by immigration officials who dismissed his Real ID as fake | US immigration | The Guardian
Yes, they're not all over 50 but I didn't realize age was a determining factor of whether your constitutional rights applied. Must be nice living in ignorance, eh? I could give two fucks about what they do in Singapore or Korea, as well, for the record. Why not mention North Korea and Saudi while you're at it?
Speaking of an “intelligent” conversation about border control. What a fucking bubble. You might want to read up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights
I have no problem with the government enforcing rules, even if that enforcement may be harsh. Heck, even local fish and wildlife has approached me with hands on guns. Show them ID and a license then they are friendly. It's not complicated. You cannot just show up and be afforded rights. Those rights are a privilege.
OK be another ethnicity and I will agree you are more likely to have a problem. If everything is in order, then you move along. If something is not right then the problem gets larger. It is not complicated. You cannot just show up under the current admin. Oh and they might be checking people that are already here. There might be a reason they find you. No visa no bueno. Criminal record? Get the fuck out.0 -
When was the constitution suspended? Did I miss something? Being outside the bubble? For fucks sake.Get_Right said:That article says nothing. The bubble is the US. The current admin is enforcing the bubble. You either have a right to be in the bubble or you don't. And if you don't, then do not be surprised by the tactics to remove you. Even though they might be more harsh than in the past.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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You know the Bill of Rights but you think the government can stop people based on outward appearance alone and question them?Get_Right said:josevolution said:
Not so fast ICE is detaining Spanish and black peoples full stop! If I travel outside this country even though I carry American passport getting back in is where it gets dangerous! They are racially profiling immigrants brown folks like meGet_Right said:
I cannot get beyond the paywalls. My point is simply that I, and similarly situated US citizens, can come and go as we please without any fear. In fact my family and I have traveled internationally a few times this year with zero issues. I mentioned other countries to illustrate that their border rules are even stricter than the US rules. But you do not give two fucks about global standards as a point of reference for an intelligent conversation about border control. Of course there are outliers, as there is with traffic stops here in the US, but if ICE detains you, 95% of the time there is a reason. Even if that reason may be thin.Halifax2TheMax said:Yea, just fucking stop, alright (copy and pasted from the Retirement thread). Guess you're taking the position that they had "bad intentions" or "improper credentials", should have obeyed ICE and that ICE is right, eh?You only have to fear ICE if you are here with bad intentions or improper credentials. Try getting into Korea or Singapore with no visa. They do not put you up, they kick you out. There are no tents in Korea. Do you really think established US citizens over 50 with more than 30 years of hard work are at risk? Bullshit. More of your nonsense and scare tactics. We are fine. So get real and stop. Because you have no idea.QuoteICE handcuffs 71-year-old grandmother, a U.S. citizen, at San Diego immigration court
US citizen, Army veteran detained at California immigration raid | CNN
Four U.S. citizen children detained by Border Patrol in WA released | The Seattle Times
US citizen detained by immigration officials who dismissed his Real ID as fake | US immigration | The Guardian
Yes, they're not all over 50 but I didn't realize age was a determining factor of whether your constitutional rights applied. Must be nice living in ignorance, eh? I could give two fucks about what they do in Singapore or Korea, as well, for the record. Why not mention North Korea and Saudi while you're at it?
Jose I would guess you and your family will have no problem. Even if they question you, it will be done in a minute. They are not after you.0 -
lol....you do realize that people ARE being detained that are legal and/or US Citizens? It isn't just questioning...they are completely upending people from their daily routine and making it a complete hassle.Get_Right said:josevolution said:
Not so fast ICE is detaining Spanish and black peoples full stop! If I travel outside this country even though I carry American passport getting back in is where it gets dangerous! They are racially profiling immigrants brown folks like meGet_Right said:
I cannot get beyond the paywalls. My point is simply that I, and similarly situated US citizens, can come and go as we please without any fear. In fact my family and I have traveled internationally a few times this year with zero issues. I mentioned other countries to illustrate that their border rules are even stricter than the US rules. But you do not give two fucks about global standards as a point of reference for an intelligent conversation about border control. Of course there are outliers, as there is with traffic stops here in the US, but if ICE detains you, 95% of the time there is a reason. Even if that reason may be thin.Halifax2TheMax said:Yea, just fucking stop, alright (copy and pasted from the Retirement thread). Guess you're taking the position that they had "bad intentions" or "improper credentials", should have obeyed ICE and that ICE is right, eh?You only have to fear ICE if you are here with bad intentions or improper credentials. Try getting into Korea or Singapore with no visa. They do not put you up, they kick you out. There are no tents in Korea. Do you really think established US citizens over 50 with more than 30 years of hard work are at risk? Bullshit. More of your nonsense and scare tactics. We are fine. So get real and stop. Because you have no idea.QuoteICE handcuffs 71-year-old grandmother, a U.S. citizen, at San Diego immigration court
US citizen, Army veteran detained at California immigration raid | CNN
Four U.S. citizen children detained by Border Patrol in WA released | The Seattle Times
US citizen detained by immigration officials who dismissed his Real ID as fake | US immigration | The Guardian
Yes, they're not all over 50 but I didn't realize age was a determining factor of whether your constitutional rights applied. Must be nice living in ignorance, eh? I could give two fucks about what they do in Singapore or Korea, as well, for the record. Why not mention North Korea and Saudi while you're at it?
Jose I would guess you and your family will have no problem. Even if they question you, it will be done in a minute. They are not after you.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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Halifax2TheMax said:
When was the constitution suspended? Did I miss something? Being outside the bubble? For fucks sake.Get_Right said:That article says nothing. The bubble is the US. The current admin is enforcing the bubble. You either have a right to be in the bubble or you don't. And if you don't, then do not be surprised by the tactics to remove you. Even though they might be more harsh than in the past.
The constitution has not been suspended for people that have a right to it. For fucks sake, under the current admin you cannot just show up. You may have a problem. And yes, the current admin is going after people that may already be here. They are not picking names at random.0 -
what an odd thing to say in a country whose constitution applies whether you are here legally or notGet_Right said:Halifax2TheMax said:
When was the constitution suspended? Did I miss something? Being outside the bubble? For fucks sake.Get_Right said:That article says nothing. The bubble is the US. The current admin is enforcing the bubble. You either have a right to be in the bubble or you don't. And if you don't, then do not be surprised by the tactics to remove you. Even though they might be more harsh than in the past.
The constitution has not been suspended for people that have a right to it. For fucks sake, under the current admin you cannot just show up. You may have a problem. And yes, the current admin is going after people that may already be here. They are not picking names at random.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
If anyone other than Trump was in office I would say hooie to this. But, since he is in I agree with this.tbergs said:
See, this is the slow walk to authoritarianism. Similar to what is expected of minorities during traffic stops and police interactions. Don't worry, even if they do question you, just comply and it will all be fine. What a weird perspective from a side closely associated with don't tread on me ideology.Get_Right said:josevolution said:
Not so fast ICE is detaining Spanish and black peoples full stop! If I travel outside this country even though I carry American passport getting back in is where it gets dangerous! They are racially profiling immigrants brown folks like meGet_Right said:
I cannot get beyond the paywalls. My point is simply that I, and similarly situated US citizens, can come and go as we please without any fear. In fact my family and I have traveled internationally a few times this year with zero issues. I mentioned other countries to illustrate that their border rules are even stricter than the US rules. But you do not give two fucks about global standards as a point of reference for an intelligent conversation about border control. Of course there are outliers, as there is with traffic stops here in the US, but if ICE detains you, 95% of the time there is a reason. Even if that reason may be thin.Halifax2TheMax said:Yea, just fucking stop, alright (copy and pasted from the Retirement thread). Guess you're taking the position that they had "bad intentions" or "improper credentials", should have obeyed ICE and that ICE is right, eh?You only have to fear ICE if you are here with bad intentions or improper credentials. Try getting into Korea or Singapore with no visa. They do not put you up, they kick you out. There are no tents in Korea. Do you really think established US citizens over 50 with more than 30 years of hard work are at risk? Bullshit. More of your nonsense and scare tactics. We are fine. So get real and stop. Because you have no idea.QuoteICE handcuffs 71-year-old grandmother, a U.S. citizen, at San Diego immigration court
US citizen, Army veteran detained at California immigration raid | CNN
Four U.S. citizen children detained by Border Patrol in WA released | The Seattle Times
US citizen detained by immigration officials who dismissed his Real ID as fake | US immigration | The Guardian
Yes, they're not all over 50 but I didn't realize age was a determining factor of whether your constitutional rights applied. Must be nice living in ignorance, eh? I could give two fucks about what they do in Singapore or Korea, as well, for the record. Why not mention North Korea and Saudi while you're at it?
Jose I would guess you and your family will have no problem. Even if they question you, it will be done in a minute. They are not after you.
Basically admitting, yeah, you'll probably be racially profiled, but it's fine just give them what they want and they'll move on because they'll quickly determine you're not the "other" they are looking for. What a simplistic and ignorant viewpoint.0 -
Merkin Baller said:Sometimes the mask comes off & one's suspicions are confirmed.
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Gern Blansten said:
what an odd thing to say in a country whose constitution applies whether you are here legally or notGet_Right said:Halifax2TheMax said:
When was the constitution suspended? Did I miss something? Being outside the bubble? For fucks sake.Get_Right said:That article says nothing. The bubble is the US. The current admin is enforcing the bubble. You either have a right to be in the bubble or you don't. And if you don't, then do not be surprised by the tactics to remove you. Even though they might be more harsh than in the past.
The constitution has not been suspended for people that have a right to it. For fucks sake, under the current admin you cannot just show up. You may have a problem. And yes, the current admin is going after people that may already be here. They are not picking names at random.
Clearly not being interpreted that way by the current admin.0
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