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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 41,235
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    How incredibly low we have fallen...
    From Heather's letter 7/12/25:
    Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) said: “These detainees are living in cages. The pictures you've seen don't do it justice. They are essentially packed into cages. Wall to wall humans. Thirty-two detainees per cage…. There are three tiny toilets that…have a sink attached to it, so…they get their drinking water and they brush their teeth where they poop, in the same unit." Nine hundred men are currently in the facility.

    The person whom wrote this has obviously never been to prison.  The toilets and sink are always a combination unit.  They must also have some crazy bathroom where the sink isn't next to their toilet...
    Did you watch her presser? Go ahead tell me how it makes sense for you to say this^^^^
    Jose I built prisons for 15 years.  This isn't anything new or obscene. We installed these as common industry practice.  Again, this congresswoman must have her sink in another room from her toilet.  My toilets are next to my sinks as I'm sure yours are too.
    Jose I am used to this, nothing new to me. Below is a typical combi unit. This is the uproar. Below that is a toilet right next to a sink in a house that is typical for millions of people... Imagine people at home brushing their teeth where they poop...
    It's a bullshit uproar.
    I still think the administration is going to get sued to the teeth for how they are apprehending people. They did this in NY a few years back and the counties paid out millions.

    Willoughby LavToilet Combo CCS_1546-Series
    Mylan 4-Piece Bath Hardware Set 18 to 24 in Towel Bar Toilet Paper Holder Towel Ring Towel Hook

    prison cell holds no more than 2.

    how many are in these chain link cells at one time? not to mention no walls at all for some modicum of privacy. 
    County holding cells have many people in them.  This has been going on forever.  

    Holding cell and prison cell are two different things but they both will have this same combi unit.

    Is your sink next to your toilet?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 44,068
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    How incredibly low we have fallen...
    From Heather's letter 7/12/25:
    Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) said: “These detainees are living in cages. The pictures you've seen don't do it justice. They are essentially packed into cages. Wall to wall humans. Thirty-two detainees per cage…. There are three tiny toilets that…have a sink attached to it, so…they get their drinking water and they brush their teeth where they poop, in the same unit." Nine hundred men are currently in the facility.

    The person whom wrote this has obviously never been to prison.  The toilets and sink are always a combination unit.  They must also have some crazy bathroom where the sink isn't next to their toilet...
    Did you watch her presser? Go ahead tell me how it makes sense for you to say this^^^^
    Jose I built prisons for 15 years.  This isn't anything new or obscene. We installed these as common industry practice.  Again, this congresswoman must have her sink in another room from her toilet.  My toilets are next to my sinks as I'm sure yours are too.
    Jose I am used to this, nothing new to me. Below is a typical combi unit. This is the uproar. Below that is a toilet right next to a sink in a house that is typical for millions of people... Imagine people at home brushing their teeth where they poop...
    It's a bullshit uproar.
    I still think the administration is going to get sued to the teeth for how they are apprehending people. They did this in NY a few years back and the counties paid out millions.

    Willoughby LavToilet Combo CCS_1546-Series
    Mylan 4-Piece Bath Hardware Set 18 to 24 in Towel Bar Toilet Paper Holder Towel Ring Towel Hook

    prison cell holds no more than 2.

    how many are in these chain link cells at one time? not to mention no walls at all for some modicum of privacy. 
    County holding cells have many people in them.  This has been going on forever.  

    Holding cell and prison cell are two different things but they both will have this same combi unit.

    Is your sink next to your toilet?

    county workhouse cell I was in , the separate toilet, next to the sink , was behind a wall , 4 ft high. 

    holding tanks had no facilities.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 44,068
    will put this here, because....


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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 41,235
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    How incredibly low we have fallen...
    From Heather's letter 7/12/25:
    Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) said: “These detainees are living in cages. The pictures you've seen don't do it justice. They are essentially packed into cages. Wall to wall humans. Thirty-two detainees per cage…. There are three tiny toilets that…have a sink attached to it, so…they get their drinking water and they brush their teeth where they poop, in the same unit." Nine hundred men are currently in the facility.

    The person whom wrote this has obviously never been to prison.  The toilets and sink are always a combination unit.  They must also have some crazy bathroom where the sink isn't next to their toilet...
    Did you watch her presser? Go ahead tell me how it makes sense for you to say this^^^^
    Jose I built prisons for 15 years.  This isn't anything new or obscene. We installed these as common industry practice.  Again, this congresswoman must have her sink in another room from her toilet.  My toilets are next to my sinks as I'm sure yours are too.
    Jose I am used to this, nothing new to me. Below is a typical combi unit. This is the uproar. Below that is a toilet right next to a sink in a house that is typical for millions of people... Imagine people at home brushing their teeth where they poop...
    It's a bullshit uproar.
    I still think the administration is going to get sued to the teeth for how they are apprehending people. They did this in NY a few years back and the counties paid out millions.

    Willoughby LavToilet Combo CCS_1546-Series
    Mylan 4-Piece Bath Hardware Set 18 to 24 in Towel Bar Toilet Paper Holder Towel Ring Towel Hook

    prison cell holds no more than 2.

    how many are in these chain link cells at one time? not to mention no walls at all for some modicum of privacy. 
    County holding cells have many people in them.  This has been going on forever.  

    Holding cell and prison cell are two different things but they both will have this same combi unit.

    Is your sink next to your toilet?

    county workhouse cell I was in , the separate toilet, next to the sink , was behind a wall , 4 ft high. 

    holding tanks had no facilities.
    Must have been a long time ago.  This is common practice now.

    So is your toilet in your house next to your sink like most houses have?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 44,068
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    How incredibly low we have fallen...
    From Heather's letter 7/12/25:
    Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) said: “These detainees are living in cages. The pictures you've seen don't do it justice. They are essentially packed into cages. Wall to wall humans. Thirty-two detainees per cage…. There are three tiny toilets that…have a sink attached to it, so…they get their drinking water and they brush their teeth where they poop, in the same unit." Nine hundred men are currently in the facility.

    The person whom wrote this has obviously never been to prison.  The toilets and sink are always a combination unit.  They must also have some crazy bathroom where the sink isn't next to their toilet...
    Did you watch her presser? Go ahead tell me how it makes sense for you to say this^^^^
    Jose I built prisons for 15 years.  This isn't anything new or obscene. We installed these as common industry practice.  Again, this congresswoman must have her sink in another room from her toilet.  My toilets are next to my sinks as I'm sure yours are too.
    Jose I am used to this, nothing new to me. Below is a typical combi unit. This is the uproar. Below that is a toilet right next to a sink in a house that is typical for millions of people... Imagine people at home brushing their teeth where they poop...
    It's a bullshit uproar.
    I still think the administration is going to get sued to the teeth for how they are apprehending people. They did this in NY a few years back and the counties paid out millions.

    Willoughby LavToilet Combo CCS_1546-Series
    Mylan 4-Piece Bath Hardware Set 18 to 24 in Towel Bar Toilet Paper Holder Towel Ring Towel Hook

    prison cell holds no more than 2.

    how many are in these chain link cells at one time? not to mention no walls at all for some modicum of privacy. 
    County holding cells have many people in them.  This has been going on forever.  

    Holding cell and prison cell are two different things but they both will have this same combi unit.

    Is your sink next to your toilet?

    county workhouse cell I was in , the separate toilet, next to the sink , was behind a wall , 4 ft high. 

    holding tanks had no facilities.
    Must have been a long time ago.  This is common practice now.

    So is your toilet in your house next to your sink like most houses have?

    did I make that argument against? hmmm?
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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 41,235
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    How incredibly low we have fallen...
    From Heather's letter 7/12/25:
    Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) said: “These detainees are living in cages. The pictures you've seen don't do it justice. They are essentially packed into cages. Wall to wall humans. Thirty-two detainees per cage…. There are three tiny toilets that…have a sink attached to it, so…they get their drinking water and they brush their teeth where they poop, in the same unit." Nine hundred men are currently in the facility.

    The person whom wrote this has obviously never been to prison.  The toilets and sink are always a combination unit.  They must also have some crazy bathroom where the sink isn't next to their toilet...
    Did you watch her presser? Go ahead tell me how it makes sense for you to say this^^^^
    Jose I built prisons for 15 years.  This isn't anything new or obscene. We installed these as common industry practice.  Again, this congresswoman must have her sink in another room from her toilet.  My toilets are next to my sinks as I'm sure yours are too.
    Jose I am used to this, nothing new to me. Below is a typical combi unit. This is the uproar. Below that is a toilet right next to a sink in a house that is typical for millions of people... Imagine people at home brushing their teeth where they poop...
    It's a bullshit uproar.
    I still think the administration is going to get sued to the teeth for how they are apprehending people. They did this in NY a few years back and the counties paid out millions.

    Willoughby LavToilet Combo CCS_1546-Series
    Mylan 4-Piece Bath Hardware Set 18 to 24 in Towel Bar Toilet Paper Holder Towel Ring Towel Hook

    prison cell holds no more than 2.

    how many are in these chain link cells at one time? not to mention no walls at all for some modicum of privacy. 
    County holding cells have many people in them.  This has been going on forever.  

    Holding cell and prison cell are two different things but they both will have this same combi unit.

    Is your sink next to your toilet?

    county workhouse cell I was in , the separate toilet, next to the sink , was behind a wall , 4 ft high. 

    holding tanks had no facilities.
    Must have been a long time ago.  This is common practice now.

    So is your toilet in your house next to your sink like most houses have?

    did I make that argument against? hmmm?
    Honestly I was expecting you to fall in line w everyone else.  My apologies for thinking that.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 44,068
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    How incredibly low we have fallen...
    From Heather's letter 7/12/25:
    Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) said: “These detainees are living in cages. The pictures you've seen don't do it justice. They are essentially packed into cages. Wall to wall humans. Thirty-two detainees per cage…. There are three tiny toilets that…have a sink attached to it, so…they get their drinking water and they brush their teeth where they poop, in the same unit." Nine hundred men are currently in the facility.

    The person whom wrote this has obviously never been to prison.  The toilets and sink are always a combination unit.  They must also have some crazy bathroom where the sink isn't next to their toilet...
    Did you watch her presser? Go ahead tell me how it makes sense for you to say this^^^^
    Jose I built prisons for 15 years.  This isn't anything new or obscene. We installed these as common industry practice.  Again, this congresswoman must have her sink in another room from her toilet.  My toilets are next to my sinks as I'm sure yours are too.
    Jose I am used to this, nothing new to me. Below is a typical combi unit. This is the uproar. Below that is a toilet right next to a sink in a house that is typical for millions of people... Imagine people at home brushing their teeth where they poop...
    It's a bullshit uproar.
    I still think the administration is going to get sued to the teeth for how they are apprehending people. They did this in NY a few years back and the counties paid out millions.

    Willoughby LavToilet Combo CCS_1546-Series
    Mylan 4-Piece Bath Hardware Set 18 to 24 in Towel Bar Toilet Paper Holder Towel Ring Towel Hook

    prison cell holds no more than 2.

    how many are in these chain link cells at one time? not to mention no walls at all for some modicum of privacy. 
    County holding cells have many people in them.  This has been going on forever.  

    Holding cell and prison cell are two different things but they both will have this same combi unit.

    Is your sink next to your toilet?

    county workhouse cell I was in , the separate toilet, next to the sink , was behind a wall , 4 ft high. 

    holding tanks had no facilities.
    Must have been a long time ago.  This is common practice now.

    So is your toilet in your house next to your sink like most houses have?

    did I make that argument against? hmmm?
    Honestly I was expecting you to fall in line w everyone else.  My apologies for thinking that.

    my concern with that facility in particular and I expect it will be the same with the rest of them that will be built, is this was done extremely cheaply. blatant grift. 
    They claim its rated to a Cat2 hurricane. I call bullshit on its face. 
    health problems from the garuanteed insect bites, sure to come. reporting says lights on 24/7. assume l.e.d , so overall conditions detrimental to mental health. 

    lack of congressional oversight. both the turn a blind eye by the sycophants of fuckstick and the denial of those opposing legal right to entry at will. 

    then theres the reported probable damage to the ecosysyem that will be done.
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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,642
    "I don't support this in any way but people on the left need to realize that folks who came here illegally are all on the precipice of committing serious crimes based on the circumstances of them just being here."

    Wow.... just pathetic.... racism not even hiding
    More like xenophobia 

    You are the racist and deserve to be banned - it’s disgusting the mods allow absolute discrimination. Me Pointing  out what certain ethnic groups voted for is nothing more than repeating what the media reported widely about the election.

    FFS as far as you know these undocumented immigrants could be from anywhere. Latin America. Europe. But you play the race card because you are the racists.


    And good job with the shadow quote for plausible deniability.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,690

    Hit dogs holler, and holler and holler and boy, they just never stop hollering. 
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,642
    Right, personally attacking due to misunderstood comments, breaking rules, making up shit about people who you don’t agree with.

    Right, because the person being attacked is the hollerer in your logic.

    youd be surprised how maga left this cesspool has become.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,859
    you guys take this stuff too seriously. chill out. or at least don't freak out on here.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 14,047
    Just be respectful of other people and their opinions. 
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    I don’t respect nazis or racists, homophobes or misogynists nor their opinions. So sue me.
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    I don’t respect nazis or racists, homophobes or misogynists nor their opinions. So sue me.
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 14,047
    So nice you had to say it twice. I could sue you, but I am not sure Nova Scotia even has a courthouse.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,510
    edited July 15
    Get_Right said:
    So nice you had to say it twice. I could sue you, but I am not sure Nova Scotia even has a courthouse.

  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 31,406
    Toilet and sink that’s the least of the horrible things associated with this form of abuse of humans! They can barely stretch out to sleep 32 to a cage I’d like to see anyone here spend two fucking hours in a cage with 32 other people sweating and smelling each other’s shit and piss! They don’t even get to smell fresh air! Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining! Why aren’t they deporting them back why keep them caged and none have gotten due process. 
    Fuckface had due process for all his charges but not for immigrants, fuck all the way off if you think this is how people should be treated specially since most don’t have criminal record’s 75% of these immigrants don’t have criminal records! Fuckface has more criminal record’s 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 14,047
    Get_Right said:
    So nice you had to say it twice. I could sue you, but I am not sure Nova Scotia even has a courthouse.

    That made me laugh. What do they call those hats? Toques?
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,510
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    So nice you had to say it twice. I could sue you, but I am not sure Nova Scotia even has a courthouse.

    That made me laugh. What do they call those hats? Toques?
    Yep. Loved that album when I was a kid. “Ten buck is ten bucks”
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,642
    Get_Right said:
    Just be respectful of other people and their opinions. 


    The left acts with impunity on this forum…


    because enforcement occurs either against the right or center only or both sides of a dispute. The left is never in violation of the rules here, for some reason.


    stating something commonly reported in the media as to how the Latinos voted, and folks that came here illegally, no matter their country of origin, are in a compromised legal position no matter our political affiliation and does not deserve these attacks, and neither does the other member getting the same attacks of racism.
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,642
    Toilet and sink that’s the least of the horrible things associated with this form of abuse of humans! They can barely stretch out to sleep 32 to a cage I’d like to see anyone here spend two fucking hours in a cage with 32 other people sweating and smelling each other’s shit and piss! They don’t even get to smell fresh air! Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining! Why aren’t they deporting them back why keep them caged and none have gotten due process. 
    Fuckface had due process for all his charges but not for immigrants, fuck all the way off if you think this is how people should be treated specially since most don’t have criminal record’s 75% of these immigrants don’t have criminal records! Fuckface has more criminal record’s 


    It’s been fact checked endlessly  that both parties, including democrats, have had those arriving here illegally, in horrible conditions.

     The one difference is the aggressive separation of families by trump. People on here do NOT want to see humans treated in this manner. Coming here illegally comes with extreme risk, and managing large populations of this is extremely difficult and neither party has found an easy solution. 

    Biden sleeping at the border wheel directly led to trump winning, so might as well blame him.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,566
    Toilet and sink that’s the least of the horrible things associated with this form of abuse of humans! They can barely stretch out to sleep 32 to a cage I’d like to see anyone here spend two fucking hours in a cage with 32 other people sweating and smelling each other’s shit and piss! They don’t even get to smell fresh air! Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining! Why aren’t they deporting them back why keep them caged and none have gotten due process. 
    Fuckface had due process for all his charges but not for immigrants, fuck all the way off if you think this is how people should be treated specially since most don’t have criminal record’s 75% of these immigrants don’t have criminal records! Fuckface has more criminal record’s 

    I was just going to say this very thing, so thank you, J!  
    So look folks, let's look at the bigger picture.  These FL gulags are crowded and inhumane.  Period.  And what's as bad or worse is that most or all of the people who have been locked up in them have been denied due process.  And anyone who is OK with denying anyone due process... 
    ...I won't finish that sentence because I would like to retain my ability to post here.  Putting it as nicely as possible, any one who believes it's OK to deny due process can go pound sand. This is America, and democracy is our foundation.  If you don't like democracy, try living in Russia for a while and see how you like that.
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 14,047
    Get_Right said:
    Just be respectful of other people and their opinions. 


    The left acts with impunity on this forum…


    because enforcement occurs either against the right or center only or both sides of a dispute. The left is never in violation of the rules here, for some reason.


    stating something commonly reported in the media as to how the Latinos voted, and folks that came here illegally, no matter their country of origin, are in a compromised legal position no matter our political affiliation and does not deserve these attacks, and neither does the other member getting the same attacks of racism.


    I somewhat disagree, it is a few people that express those views. Which I have no problem with. But I do think some of those opinions are idealistic and do not reflect reality.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,738
    Get_Right said:
    So nice you had to say it twice. I could sue you, but I am not sure Nova Scotia even has a courthouse.
    Two turtle necks and a beer, ya hoser.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,784
    mace1229 said:
    But if it’s a need to keep score and the point is to say, "look Obama and Biden too", then fine. Obama and Biden too were wrong. 
    If it’s always wrong, is it wrong in jail, prisons and drunk tanks too? Because that’s been common use for about 75 years there. But I’ve yet to hear a single member of congress complain about someone in a drum tank washing their hands where they poop.
    One reason it seemed so out of place to play the race card and call me racist. I’m not saying immigrants deserve less, I’m saying it’s been common practice for a very long time. And only now, and only for ICE detention centers is anyone complaining about it. If it’s wrong and inhumane, then it’s wrong for everyone, right?

    Now a lot of people took my comment on the sinks to say I’m normalizing everything Trump is doing. I’ll say it for about the 6th time, I’m not. I don’t agree with his rhetoric, the round ups, the mass deportation, the concept of alligator Alcatraz, etc. But when the main complaint I keep saying is calling them cages and saying they poop and brush their teeth in the same unit, when they haven’t said anything about it in the last 15 years, I can’t help but roll my eyes at those comments.
    By your logic when Obama & Biden were doing the same thing I ask why didn’t the GOP hierarchy cry foul? Like the Democrats are doing now? Could it be they don’t give a fuck how immigrants are treated so if they were it’s all good? 
    You’ve missed the point and that’s an easy answer. They didn’t cry foul because there isn’t anything inherently wrong with using those combo sinks. That’s why they’ve been used for decades in several different capacities. Why do people only complain when it’s an ice detention center and only when Trump is in office? If it’s that bad, go stand up for the jails, prisons and any other place that uses the same thing.

    It’s hard to take a politician seriously when they show up on tv in tears saying people and brushing their teeth out of the toilet when they’ve never said a word about it before. That’s the one complaint I hear more than any other.

    And, to be absolutely clear again, I disagree with a lot of the other things going on. But the complaint I hear most is about those combo sinks.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,738
    Get_Right said:
    So nice you had to say it twice. I could sue you, but I am not sure Nova Scotia even has a courthouse.
    Two turtle necks and a beer, ya hoser.
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 14,047
    Get_Right said:
    So nice you had to say it twice. I could sue you, but I am not sure Nova Scotia even has a courthouse.
    Two turtle necks and a beer, ya hoser.

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 31,406
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    But if it’s a need to keep score and the point is to say, "look Obama and Biden too", then fine. Obama and Biden too were wrong. 
    If it’s always wrong, is it wrong in jail, prisons and drunk tanks too? Because that’s been common use for about 75 years there. But I’ve yet to hear a single member of congress complain about someone in a drum tank washing their hands where they poop.
    One reason it seemed so out of place to play the race card and call me racist. I’m not saying immigrants deserve less, I’m saying it’s been common practice for a very long time. And only now, and only for ICE detention centers is anyone complaining about it. If it’s wrong and inhumane, then it’s wrong for everyone, right?

    Now a lot of people took my comment on the sinks to say I’m normalizing everything Trump is doing. I’ll say it for about the 6th time, I’m not. I don’t agree with his rhetoric, the round ups, the mass deportation, the concept of alligator Alcatraz, etc. But when the main complaint I keep saying is calling them cages and saying they poop and brush their teeth in the same unit, when they haven’t said anything about it in the last 15 years, I can’t help but roll my eyes at those comments.
    By your logic when Obama & Biden were doing the same thing I ask why didn’t the GOP hierarchy cry foul? Like the Democrats are doing now? Could it be they don’t give a fuck how immigrants are treated so if they were it’s all good? 
    You’ve missed the point and that’s an easy answer. They didn’t cry foul because there isn’t anything inherently wrong with using those combo sinks. That’s why they’ve been used for decades in several different capacities. Why do people only complain when it’s an ice detention center and only when Trump is in office? If it’s that bad, go stand up for the jails, prisons and any other place that uses the same thing.

    It’s hard to take a politician seriously when they show up on tv in tears saying people and brushing their teeth out of the toilet when they’ve never said a word about it before. That’s the one complaint I hear more than any other.

    And, to be absolutely clear again, I disagree with a lot of the other things going on. But the complaint I hear most is about those combo sinks.
    Like I said the toilet and sink are not at the top of my list as to what constitutes fair treatment of human beings! 
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,784
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    But if it’s a need to keep score and the point is to say, "look Obama and Biden too", then fine. Obama and Biden too were wrong. 
    If it’s always wrong, is it wrong in jail, prisons and drunk tanks too? Because that’s been common use for about 75 years there. But I’ve yet to hear a single member of congress complain about someone in a drum tank washing their hands where they poop.
    One reason it seemed so out of place to play the race card and call me racist. I’m not saying immigrants deserve less, I’m saying it’s been common practice for a very long time. And only now, and only for ICE detention centers is anyone complaining about it. If it’s wrong and inhumane, then it’s wrong for everyone, right?

    Now a lot of people took my comment on the sinks to say I’m normalizing everything Trump is doing. I’ll say it for about the 6th time, I’m not. I don’t agree with his rhetoric, the round ups, the mass deportation, the concept of alligator Alcatraz, etc. But when the main complaint I keep saying is calling them cages and saying they poop and brush their teeth in the same unit, when they haven’t said anything about it in the last 15 years, I can’t help but roll my eyes at those comments.
    By your logic when Obama & Biden were doing the same thing I ask why didn’t the GOP hierarchy cry foul? Like the Democrats are doing now? Could it be they don’t give a fuck how immigrants are treated so if they were it’s all good? 
    You’ve missed the point and that’s an easy answer. They didn’t cry foul because there isn’t anything inherently wrong with using those combo sinks. That’s why they’ve been used for decades in several different capacities. Why do people only complain when it’s an ice detention center and only when Trump is in office? If it’s that bad, go stand up for the jails, prisons and any other place that uses the same thing.

    It’s hard to take a politician seriously when they show up on tv in tears saying people and brushing their teeth out of the toilet when they’ve never said a word about it before. That’s the one complaint I hear more than any other.

    And, to be absolutely clear again, I disagree with a lot of the other things going on. But the complaint I hear most is about those combo sinks.
    Like I said the toilet and sink are not at the top of my list as to what constitutes fair treatment of human beings! 
    Mine neither. But like I said, I hear about that more than anything else. Politicians picking only now to complain about it seems odd to me.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,784
    brianlux said:
    How incredibly low we have fallen...
    From Heather's letter 7/12/25:
    Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) said: “These detainees are living in cages. The pictures you've seen don't do it justice. They are essentially packed into cages. Wall to wall humans. Thirty-two detainees per cage…. There are three tiny toilets that…have a sink attached to it, so…they get their drinking water and they brush their teeth where they poop, in the same unit." Nine hundred men are currently in the facility.

    The person whom wrote this has obviously never been to prison.  The toilets and sink are always a combination unit.  They must also have some crazy bathroom where the sink isn't next to their toilet...
    I built an outhouse in the backyard  for this reason.
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