The curfew at the Waldbühne Berlin is 10 pm for bands like Pearl Jam. So please don't. Time to go to the arena again. It's been a long, long time since 2012.
No, the arena was boring. Berlin, PJ and outdoors is the way it should be.
Yeah, Waldbühne is the better location. Just begin an hour earlier and there won't be any pressure.
I agree
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The 2010 show there though will always take some beating, magical.
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The curfew at the Waldbühne Berlin is 10 pm for bands like Pearl Jam. So please don't. Time to go to the arena again. It's been a long, long time since 2012.
No, the arena was boring. Berlin, PJ and outdoors is the way it should be.
Yeah, Waldbühne is the better location. Just begin an hour earlier and there won't be any pressure.
I didn't say that the arena is the better location. I think the Waldbühne is better too. But experience shows that Pearl Jam won't manage to be on stage punctually at 8pm in broad daylight in the middle of summer.
The curfew at the Waldbühne Berlin is 10 pm for bands like Pearl Jam. So please don't. Time to go to the arena again. It's been a long, long time since 2012.
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That made me laugh. I'd be interested to know how low the ticket price would have to be for them to actually attract 70,000 people and sell the thing out. 50 to 60 euros?
Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.
Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.
So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.
Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.
So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
Why go to Europe and charge less for tickets? They had very little issue selling tickets stateside. I don't think lowing the ticket prices is in the cards- my guess is there just won't be shows.
St. Paul 2023 Noblesville 2023 Las Vegas N1, N2 2024 Noblesville 2024
Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.
Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.
So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
Why go to Europe and charge less for tickets? They had very little issue selling tickets stateside. I don't think lowing the ticket prices is in the cards- my guess is there just won't be shows.
This. A lot of people wondering if they “learned their lesson” from last years Europe leg might find the band took a different lesson from it,
Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.
Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.
So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
Why go to Europe and charge less for tickets? They had very little issue selling tickets stateside. I don't think lowing the ticket prices is in the cards- my guess is there just won't be shows.
Depends what you think they are touring for. I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.
Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.
So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
Why go to Europe and charge less for tickets? They had very little issue selling tickets stateside. I don't think lowing the ticket prices is in the cards- my guess is there just won't be shows.
Depends what you think they are touring for. I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
I love the band, let me start with that. I'm sure there is an element of touring they enjoy. That enjoyment probably has most to do with the love and support they get from the fans. Make no mistake though, they are in the business of making money and selling a product to keep the wheels rolling- to leave their families for a month or more, the numbers always have to add up. It's simple economics, the consumers have every right not to buy tickets at an established price. If the band feels they can get that price elsewhere (and they can) it makes absolutely no sense to book a tour in Europe for less money. The Euro fans voted with their wallet on the last tour, and if the band tours again they'll have to make a decision to spend money and get on a plane or listen to the tour on Nugs. I hope I'm wrong because I'd love to travel to Europe to see them before they hang it up I just don't see it happening any time soon because I'm not sure how much time they have left to stay out of an area and drive up the demand.
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
St. Paul 2023 Noblesville 2023 Las Vegas N1, N2 2024 Noblesville 2024
Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.
Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.
So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
Why go to Europe and charge less for tickets? They had very little issue selling tickets stateside. I don't think lowing the ticket prices is in the cards- my guess is there just won't be shows.
Depends what you think they are touring for. I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
I love the band, let me start with that. I'm sure there is an element of touring they enjoy. That enjoyment probably has most to do with the love and support they get from the fans. Make no mistake though, they are in the business of making money and selling a product to keep the wheels rolling- to leave their families for a month or more, the numbers always have to add up. It's simple economics, the consumers have every right not to buy tickets at an established price. If the band feels they can get that price elsewhere (and they can) it makes absolutely no sense to book a tour in Europe for less money. The Euro fans voted with their wallet on the last tour, and if the band tours again they'll have to make a decision to spend money and get on a plane or listen to the tour on Nugs. I hope I'm wrong because I'd love to travel to Europe to see them before they hang it up I just don't see it happening any time soon because I'm not sure how much time they have left to stay out of an area and drive up the demand.
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
So you're saying you only see them playing the us forever now?
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.
Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.
So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
Why go to Europe and charge less for tickets? They had very little issue selling tickets stateside. I don't think lowing the ticket prices is in the cards- my guess is there just won't be shows.
Well, the pricing they tried didnt work, so just more in line with what is “acceptable” in Europe. They can make money that way, everybody else (big American bands)must, because they charge what is “right”. I dont know who advised PJ on those prices, but i hope they were shit-canned.
Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.
Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.
So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
Why go to Europe and charge less for tickets? They had very little issue selling tickets stateside. I don't think lowing the ticket prices is in the cards- my guess is there just won't be shows.
Depends what you think they are touring for. I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
I love the band, let me start with that. I'm sure there is an element of touring they enjoy. That enjoyment probably has most to do with the love and support they get from the fans. Make no mistake though, they are in the business of making money and selling a product to keep the wheels rolling- to leave their families for a month or more, the numbers always have to add up. It's simple economics, the consumers have every right not to buy tickets at an established price. If the band feels they can get that price elsewhere (and they can) it makes absolutely no sense to book a tour in Europe for less money. The Euro fans voted with their wallet on the last tour, and if the band tours again they'll have to make a decision to spend money and get on a plane or listen to the tour on Nugs. I hope I'm wrong because I'd love to travel to Europe to see them before they hang it up I just don't see it happening any time soon because I'm not sure how much time they have left to stay out of an area and drive up the demand.
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
So you're saying you only seen them playing the us forever now?
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
Well, no, I didn't say that. I said, it doesn't make sense to play in Europe unless Europeans are willing to pay the same price they can get in other cities. In my opinion, the best way to work around that is to spread out how often you play in an area. It will drive up demand thus help drive ticket sales when you do come back. It's not a hard concept to grasp, the issue is the sand running through the hour glass. Maybe they do take a full year off in 2026 like many are speculating and I don't think it would be out of realm of possibility to have a South American/Euro tour with a short US run on the front or back-end of that in 2027, but it's asking a lot considering their age.
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
St. Paul 2023 Noblesville 2023 Las Vegas N1, N2 2024 Noblesville 2024
Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.
Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.
So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
Why go to Europe and charge less for tickets? They had very little issue selling tickets stateside. I don't think lowing the ticket prices is in the cards- my guess is there just won't be shows.
Depends what you think they are touring for. I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
I love the band, let me start with that. I'm sure there is an element of touring they enjoy. That enjoyment probably has most to do with the love and support they get from the fans. Make no mistake though, they are in the business of making money and selling a product to keep the wheels rolling- to leave their families for a month or more, the numbers always have to add up. It's simple economics, the consumers have every right not to buy tickets at an established price. If the band feels they can get that price elsewhere (and they can) it makes absolutely no sense to book a tour in Europe for less money. The Euro fans voted with their wallet on the last tour, and if the band tours again they'll have to make a decision to spend money and get on a plane or listen to the tour on Nugs. I hope I'm wrong because I'd love to travel to Europe to see them before they hang it up I just don't see it happening any time soon because I'm not sure how much time they have left to stay out of an area and drive up the demand.
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
So you're saying you only seen them playing the us forever now?
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
Well, no, I didn't say that. I said, it doesn't make sense to play in Europe unless Europeans are willing to pay the same price they can get in other cities. In my opinion, the best way to work around that is to spread out how often you play in an area. It will drive up demand thus help drive ticket sales when you do come back. It's not a hard concept to grasp, the issue is the sand running through the hour glass. Maybe they do take a full year off in 2026 like many are speculating and I don't think it would be out of realm of possibility to have a South American/Euro tour with a short US run on the front or back-end of that in 2027, but it's asking a lot considering their age.
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
The ticket prices for Europe were high but not astronomical. The biggest shitshow was whoever decided playing a stadium in London was a good idea. I'm sure they would of sold out 2 nights at the o2.
Having said that Barcelona didn't sell out. I went to both those shows but I don't know what the bands following is like in Spain.
Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.
Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.
So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
Why go to Europe and charge less for tickets? They had very little issue selling tickets stateside. I don't think lowing the ticket prices is in the cards- my guess is there just won't be shows.
Depends what you think they are touring for. I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
I love the band, let me start with that. I'm sure there is an element of touring they enjoy. That enjoyment probably has most to do with the love and support they get from the fans. Make no mistake though, they are in the business of making money and selling a product to keep the wheels rolling- to leave their families for a month or more, the numbers always have to add up. It's simple economics, the consumers have every right not to buy tickets at an established price. If the band feels they can get that price elsewhere (and they can) it makes absolutely no sense to book a tour in Europe for less money. The Euro fans voted with their wallet on the last tour, and if the band tours again they'll have to make a decision to spend money and get on a plane or listen to the tour on Nugs. I hope I'm wrong because I'd love to travel to Europe to see them before they hang it up I just don't see it happening any time soon because I'm not sure how much time they have left to stay out of an area and drive up the demand.
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
So you're saying you only seen them playing the us forever now?
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
Well, no, I didn't say that. I said, it doesn't make sense to play in Europe unless Europeans are willing to pay the same price they can get in other cities. In my opinion, the best way to work around that is to spread out how often you play in an area. It will drive up demand thus help drive ticket sales when you do come back. It's not a hard concept to grasp, the issue is the sand running through the hour glass. Maybe they do take a full year off in 2026 like many are speculating and I don't think it would be out of realm of possibility to have a South American/Euro tour with a short US run on the front or back-end of that in 2027, but it's asking a lot considering their age.
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
The ticket prices for Europe were high but not astronomical. The biggest shitshow was whoever decided playing a stadium in London was a good idea. I'm sure they would of sold out 2 nights at the o2.
Having said that Barcelona didn't sell out. I went to both those shows but I don't know what the bands following is like in Spain.
It's huge, but unfortunately the ticket prices kept a lot of them away.
Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.
Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.
So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
Why go to Europe and charge less for tickets? They had very little issue selling tickets stateside. I don't think lowing the ticket prices is in the cards- my guess is there just won't be shows.
Depends what you think they are touring for. I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
I love the band, let me start with that. I'm sure there is an element of touring they enjoy. That enjoyment probably has most to do with the love and support they get from the fans. Make no mistake though, they are in the business of making money and selling a product to keep the wheels rolling- to leave their families for a month or more, the numbers always have to add up. It's simple economics, the consumers have every right not to buy tickets at an established price. If the band feels they can get that price elsewhere (and they can) it makes absolutely no sense to book a tour in Europe for less money. The Euro fans voted with their wallet on the last tour, and if the band tours again they'll have to make a decision to spend money and get on a plane or listen to the tour on Nugs. I hope I'm wrong because I'd love to travel to Europe to see them before they hang it up I just don't see it happening any time soon because I'm not sure how much time they have left to stay out of an area and drive up the demand.
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
So you're saying you only seen them playing the us forever now?
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
Well, no, I didn't say that. I said, it doesn't make sense to play in Europe unless Europeans are willing to pay the same price they can get in other cities. In my opinion, the best way to work around that is to spread out how often you play in an area. It will drive up demand thus help drive ticket sales when you do come back. It's not a hard concept to grasp, the issue is the sand running through the hour glass. Maybe they do take a full year off in 2026 like many are speculating and I don't think it would be out of realm of possibility to have a South American/Euro tour with a short US run on the front or back-end of that in 2027, but it's asking a lot considering their age.
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
The ticket prices for Europe were high but not astronomical. The biggest shitshow was whoever decided playing a stadium in London was a good idea. I'm sure they would of sold out 2 nights at the o2.
Having said that Barcelona didn't sell out. I went to both those shows but I don't know what the bands following is like in Spain.
It's huge, but unfortunately the ticket prices kept a lot of them away.
Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.
Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.
So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
Why go to Europe and charge less for tickets? They had very little issue selling tickets stateside. I don't think lowing the ticket prices is in the cards- my guess is there just won't be shows.
Depends what you think they are touring for. I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
I love the band, let me start with that. I'm sure there is an element of touring they enjoy. That enjoyment probably has most to do with the love and support they get from the fans. Make no mistake though, they are in the business of making money and selling a product to keep the wheels rolling- to leave their families for a month or more, the numbers always have to add up. It's simple economics, the consumers have every right not to buy tickets at an established price. If the band feels they can get that price elsewhere (and they can) it makes absolutely no sense to book a tour in Europe for less money. The Euro fans voted with their wallet on the last tour, and if the band tours again they'll have to make a decision to spend money and get on a plane or listen to the tour on Nugs. I hope I'm wrong because I'd love to travel to Europe to see them before they hang it up I just don't see it happening any time soon because I'm not sure how much time they have left to stay out of an area and drive up the demand.
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
So you're saying you only seen them playing the us forever now?
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
Well, no, I didn't say that. I said, it doesn't make sense to play in Europe unless Europeans are willing to pay the same price they can get in other cities. In my opinion, the best way to work around that is to spread out how often you play in an area. It will drive up demand thus help drive ticket sales when you do come back. It's not a hard concept to grasp, the issue is the sand running through the hour glass. Maybe they do take a full year off in 2026 like many are speculating and I don't think it would be out of realm of possibility to have a South American/Euro tour with a short US run on the front or back-end of that in 2027, but it's asking a lot considering their age.
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
The ticket prices for Europe were high but not astronomical. The biggest shitshow was whoever decided playing a stadium in London was a good idea. I'm sure they would of sold out 2 nights at the o2.
Having said that Barcelona didn't sell out. I went to both those shows but I don't know what the bands following is like in Spain.
You have been saying that nonstop. You dont think they could draw 45,000 in the UK? Please. They screwed up with the prices, and the timing. Were they not charging double what Green Day and Foo and the Boss were? Theres the problem, right there.
It cant be said enough, they sold 130,000 for Hyde Park. Yep, it was a “festival”, and yes, a lot of people just went because, but the vast majority of people were there to see PJ. And they had the fastest sellout ever, thats why they added the second show. And the band were just there in ‘18, and the tickets went on sale in ‘19, and it went how it went.
That year the Eagles didn't sellout their show, Duran Duran didn't, the Stones didn’t until a week before. And the Kings of Leon didn’t even come close to selling out theirs the following year. Give them some credit, for once…….
Any chance on 1 more show with Matt before he officially leaves?? I really hope so, a hometown Seattle show to see him off would be amazing!
Did you miss his message today? He has stepped off the PJ drum riser for the last time and left the band. Seems pretty definitive.
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Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.
Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.
So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
Why go to Europe and charge less for tickets? They had very little issue selling tickets stateside. I don't think lowing the ticket prices is in the cards- my guess is there just won't be shows.
Depends what you think they are touring for. I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
I love the band, let me start with that. I'm sure there is an element of touring they enjoy. That enjoyment probably has most to do with the love and support they get from the fans. Make no mistake though, they are in the business of making money and selling a product to keep the wheels rolling- to leave their families for a month or more, the numbers always have to add up. It's simple economics, the consumers have every right not to buy tickets at an established price. If the band feels they can get that price elsewhere (and they can) it makes absolutely no sense to book a tour in Europe for less money. The Euro fans voted with their wallet on the last tour, and if the band tours again they'll have to make a decision to spend money and get on a plane or listen to the tour on Nugs. I hope I'm wrong because I'd love to travel to Europe to see them before they hang it up I just don't see it happening any time soon because I'm not sure how much time they have left to stay out of an area and drive up the demand.
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
So you're saying you only seen them playing the us forever now?
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
Well, no, I didn't say that. I said, it doesn't make sense to play in Europe unless Europeans are willing to pay the same price they can get in other cities. In my opinion, the best way to work around that is to spread out how often you play in an area. It will drive up demand thus help drive ticket sales when you do come back. It's not a hard concept to grasp, the issue is the sand running through the hour glass. Maybe they do take a full year off in 2026 like many are speculating and I don't think it would be out of realm of possibility to have a South American/Euro tour with a short US run on the front or back-end of that in 2027, but it's asking a lot considering their age.
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
The ticket prices for Europe were high but not astronomical. The biggest shitshow was whoever decided playing a stadium in London was a good idea. I'm sure they would of sold out 2 nights at the o2.
Having said that Barcelona didn't sell out. I went to both those shows but I don't know what the bands following is like in Spain.
You have been saying that nonstop. You dont think they could draw 45,000 in the UK? Please. They screwed up with the prices, and the timing. Were they not charging double what Green Day and Foo and the Boss were? Theres the problem, right there.
It cant be said enough, they sold 130,000 for Hyde Park. Yep, it was a “festival”, and yes, a lot of people just went because, but the vast majority of people were there to see PJ. And they had the fastest sellout ever, thats why they added the second show. And the band were just there in ‘18, and the tickets went on sale in ‘19, and it went how it went.
That year the Eagles didn't sellout their show, Duran Duran didn't, the Stones didn’t until a week before. And the Kings of Leon didn’t even come close to selling out theirs the following year. Give them some credit, for once…….
I paid £130 for both nights through ten club for hyde park compared to £160 for Tottenham. That's a huge difference.
I also said I thought they would sell out 2 nights at the o2, which would be about 45.000 so what's your point
They would easily sell out the 02 for two nights when they return to the UK. Not a single doubt on that, and that is on the higher pricing end too.
I just hope they play a show or two in the north and return to Manchester and Leeds.
I'd happily pay double the price from last year. No question. I may be in the minority there but theres no shortage of people paying huge sums of money to see Oasis, and the likes of Taylor Swift. Naturally it all comes down to personal value - and I will always say that there isnt a band in the world I'd rather see than Pearl Jam
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The 2010 show there though will always take some beating, magical.
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I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
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What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
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I'm sure they would of sold out 2 nights at the o2.
Having said that Barcelona didn't sell out. I went to both those shows but I don't know what the bands following is like in Spain.
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2006 - Verona, Torino, Pistoia
2007 - Munich
2013 - Calgary
2014 - Vienna
2016 - Quebec, Ottawa, Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Pemberton
2018 - Padova
2022 - Frankfurt, Krakow, Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2 amazing shows though
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I also said I thought they would sell out 2 nights at the o2, which would be about 45.000 so what's your point
I just hope they play a show or two in the north and return to Manchester and Leeds.
I'd happily pay double the price from last year. No question. I may be in the minority there but theres no shortage of people paying huge sums of money to see Oasis, and the likes of Taylor Swift. Naturally it all comes down to personal value - and I will always say that there isnt a band in the world I'd rather see than Pearl Jam