Lost dogs 2 / Stray Cats and other outtakes

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  • pleatherman
    pleatherman Posts: 472
    pleatherman said:
    Could add 'Rise and Fall', written by Eddie.  It was in contention for Avocado.
    Scratch that one.  It is just an alternate title McCready gave for Of the Earth.
  • Joostone
    Joostone Posts: 242
    edited April 2020
    I was doing some research, seems like both the Avocado aswell as Backspacer had some outtakes.

    2006/07: We know about: Off the Earth, Cold Confession, Let it Ride, 2x4. In a 2007 interview with TFT, Danny Clinch (director Immagine) said the following:

    JR: Pearl Jam is the first record that hasn't had a b-side so we've wondered where are some of these extra cuts.
    DC: And there's more to that story that I'm not going to tell you.

    http://www.twofeetthick.com/2007/09/27/danny-clinch-the-tft-interview/


    2009: We know that Off the Earth was tried again. But there are several outtakes being confirmed by both Jeff and Mike in the following interviews:

    In OOR magazine (biggest dutch music magazine; http://www.oor.nl) there was a short interview with Jeff, not much interesting except the following. He said that they recorded some incredible rock songs that did not fit on Backspacer very well and he was hopefull that they will enter the studio again early next year to do some final recording/mixing on those tracks aiming at an new release within a year.

    Similar words were already spoken by Mike on several interviews: 

    BM: I noticed you kept the songs very short, very direct, kind of garage-y. Were you sort of reining in the tendencies to make them a little bit more like that?

    MM: I think we didn’t initially know that we were reining them in. We had about seventeen ideas going into this project, seventeen to twenty. And when we were at about eleven pretty much finished, Brendan (O’Brien, producer) and Ed sat down and said, “Hey, this looks like a really good record.” Stone (Gossard, guitarist) had been talking about wanting to have a record that was shorter, more concise and I think we achieved that. That being said, we still have other songs that are out there that are from this session that we may do something with in about six months.

    http:// https://web.archive.org/web/20090922215856/http://www.rockband.com/zine/mccready_interview


    2013: I was lucky to attend an Amsterdam listening party for Lightning Bolt. Brendan O'Brien was present. During the Q&A a reporter asked about 'Off the Earth'. He said it was not tried again during the Lightning Bolt sessions. He said there weren't many outtakes this time around. Maybe only one or two tracks. He was probably thinking about Olé.

    2017-2020: They started with Brendan O'Brien in the beginning of 2017. 'Can't Deny Me' was released from those sessions. And then three years later Gigaton was released with Josh Evans producing. We don't know much else. Josh was asked about outtakes:

    They’re always working on something. It’s hard to say, because it’s not really done until it’s out. There are all kinds of things sitting on hard drives — from pieces of ideas to something one of the guys might consider a finished song. As far as mixing the record, these were the only 12 songs we mixed.

    http://https//variety.com/2020/music/news/pearl-jam-gigaton-track-by-track-1203546989/


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  • Force Of Nature
    Force Of Nature York, England Posts: 1,137
    http://www.theskyiscrape.com/2020/04/artwork-leak-for-gigaton-ii.html

    keep the conspiracy going
  • Bob Mayo on the keyboards Bob
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    Didn't Mike talk post Backspacer that there was gonna be something more coming from those sessions? Like a second album, or a B-sides collection or something?
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,912
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Didn't Mike talk post Backspacer that there was gonna be something more coming from those sessions? Like a second album, or a B-sides collection or something?
    I think I remember hearing a possible EP.    It does seem like they'res leftovers from the last 4 albums.   They're probably being smart and keeping them for a rainy day.   As a fan, I kind of like it.  If the band ever retires, we know there's stuff in the vault to keep us going :)
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,992
    Their is at least one LB outtake that Stone referenced in the Let the Records Play vignette.  “ I was learning a Jeff song that will probably be on the next record when I wrote LTRP in his tuning “ 
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  • SandyRavage
    SandyRavage Posts: 1,126
     "Good Idea about Lost Dogs 2 Ill bet we have the music for that."
    - Mike McCready on Reddit 
  • Joostone
    Joostone Posts: 242
    From the Reddit chat:

    Cant Deny Me was a single that came out when we didnt have a record out.It might come out again someday but Im not sure. I think Ed feels like we havent gotten the best take of Of The Earth from what I remember.I hope we can get it sometime>MM

    Gigaton is its own record. Id love to record more music in this time of pandemic but its imoportant that we are all taking measures to be safe. Good Idea about Lost Dogs 2 Ill bet we have the music for that.MM

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  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    Sounds good. I started all this and try to keep the first page updated, But going through a tough patch since my mother died last January. But will do it soon.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,681
    Bruce just released 83 unreleased songs. I don't know if the guys have 83 but
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,753
    igotid88 said:
    Bruce just released 83 unreleased songs. I don't know if the guys have 83 but

    Not sure but we so need a Lost Dogs 2 release. 

  • musicsam3
    musicsam3 Posts: 238
    Please, let’s just let Ole die…
  • KN219077
    KN219077 Montana Posts: 1,201
    musicsam3 said:
    Please, let’s just let Ole die…
    musicsam3 said:
    Please, let’s just let Ole die…
    If it means getting a stray cat’s then so be it
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,863
    I really hope they don't call it Stray Cats.

  • Foriginal Sin
    Foriginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,876
    If they are going to release a lost dogs 2 I wanna hear new shit not the same old stuff we’ve all had/heard before 
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,681
    Foriginal Sin said:
    If they are going to release a lost dogs 2 I wanna hear new shit not the same old stuff we’ve all had/heard before 
    We heard most of the stuff on Lost Dogs as well. So hopefully we hear the stuff we heard but a little more produced because those need to be heard the casuals. 
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  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,080
    Agreed, would rather hear C and B grade scrapped material never heard before over Release "redux" or Corduroy with organ.
  • Gravey1975
    Gravey1975 Posts: 342
    Studio version of Of The Earth was briefly leaked on YouTube. Sounded amazing. Lots of other song titles doing the rounds that I've never heard of so I think there's no shortage of material.

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