Help with Signatures

They have a signed Van Orton up for auction as well and the last name looks quite different on that one. 

Yes those were red flags to me as well. Ed’s Cubs connection is the only reason I gave this one a moment’s consideration. No info about where they got it though. 

@glowgirl Did your friend opt to try the quick PSA authentication? I think it was really cheap to do. I was thinking of doing the same for my signed guitar. 

EH14457 said:

I wouldn’t read anything into those highlighted terms. MLB authentication is when players (or other MLB-affiliated personalities) are witnessed signing something. So I don’t think a Pearl Jam poster technically even *could* be MLB authenticated. And online auctions hardly ever allow returns/exchanges, especially for one-of-a-kind items. 

The Vancouver sigs all look good to me (for whatever that’s worth), and placement is pretty nice. It’s a sweet looking poster. 

Re: the guitar in the original post, I agree with others that the sigs are sus. I don’t think they’re real but like others have mentioned can’t prove definitively that they’re not. 

I highlighted those sections because the auction is pretty clearly telling buyers they have not authenticated the poster and they won’t accept a return even if it’s fake. Buyer beware.  Charity auctions are notorious for being duped by fake items.  Even though those signatures look good, I’d only deal with a seller who was willing to guarantee authenticity or obtain it from a reputable source like the Ten Club/Vitalogy. Most high end auctions - Heritage, Goldin, etc - will not sell an item without provenance or authentication.  And they have a process for refunds if you demonstrate an item is a forgery.  But the refund process is less important with them because they don’t take items of questionable authenticity in the first place.  

ekwipt said:

on2legs said:

EH14457 said:

I wouldn’t read anything into those highlighted terms. MLB authentication is when players (or other MLB-affiliated personalities) are witnessed signing something. So I don’t think a Pearl Jam poster technically even *could* be MLB authenticated. And online auctions hardly ever allow returns/exchanges, especially for one-of-a-kind items. 

The Vancouver sigs all look good to me (for whatever that’s worth), and placement is pretty nice. It’s a sweet looking poster. 

Re: the guitar in the original post, I agree with others that the sigs are sus. I don’t think they’re real but like others have mentioned can’t prove definitively that they’re not. 

I highlighted those sections because the auction is pretty clearly telling buyers they have not authenticated the poster and they won’t accept a return even if it’s fake. Buyer beware.  Charity auctions are notorious for being duped by fake items.  Even though those signatures look good, I’d only deal with a seller who was willing to guarantee authenticity or obtain it from a reputable source like the Ten Club/Vitalogy. Most high end auctions - Heritage, Goldin, etc - will not sell an item without provenance or authentication.  And they have a process for refunds if you demonstrate an item is a forgery.  But the refund process is less important with them because they don’t take items of questionable authenticity in the first place.  

I also found it interesting that no source for the 2 signed posters is mentioned but they make a point of pointing out PJ is the source for the signed guitar they have. 

To be clear… given Ed’s relationship with the cubs and my nonprofessional opinion that the signatures look really good, I do think this poster is legit.  

iOnlyownMymind said:

I thought I heard that the authentication process is pretty much bogus as well?   Not sure I'd trust anything that didn't have photos involved or a direct known connection to 10c/the band. 

PSA/DNA, JSA and Beckett are some of the best.  Stick with them.