The Official Dark Matter is too good for the tour to be over thread

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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,810
    nicknyr15 said:
    RatherStarved said:
    Tried a lesson when I was out there and couldn’t get the hang of it in one lesson.  Definitely want to try again as obviously it requires a little more time to figure out.  Maybe a week long set of lessons if I can ever have a reason to be out there again…PJ…
    Took me two summers to stand up. There’s so much more to it than standing. Reading the water, paddling out, paddling for a wave, wave selection, knowing how to fall….. it’s not something that can be rushed. Which goes for a lot of things! But it was the most rewarding feeling for me personally. 
    I definitely felt that there were way too many little things to get right to process it all at once.  My takeaway was not frustration but just the knowledge that I will have to invest quite a bit more time in it to learn it. My life doesn’t have that luxury right now but maybe one day I will have the time.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,992
    mcgruff10 said:
    Absolutely!  Philly needs some shows    
    You know who is long overdue for shoes? 
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,412
    D-Rod said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Absolutely!  Philly needs some shows    
    You know who is long overdue for shoes? 
    The shoeless???
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,795
    There was only one Dark Matter Canadian stop these past two years. And that was Vancouver. A little shocked there wasn't a Toronto or Montreal date on this run. Or yet a Halifax date ...  Hopefully next time they play those cities they play more tunes from Dark Matter.
  • stones
    stones Posts: 406
    From the outside it does seem like they ended the DM tour earlier than what might have originally been planned...  No South America, limited shows in Canada and Europe - even before the cancellations it was a limited European run, skipping usual tour stops in Italy, Benelux and Eastern Europe completely...  that doesn't really make much sense based on the investment in the new stage set-up, how much they seemed to enjoy playing the new songs and how proud they were of the album.

    Total speculation but I do wonder if a factor in officially drawing a line under the DM tour is being able to play sooner in the cities in Europe that were cancelled.  Insurance payments limit the ability to play anything that could be any way conceived as a rescheduled date - so maybe next time it needs to be a different tour??
  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,167
    I couldn’t be more in on this. 100% want to keep seeing these songs live. 
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • D-Day
    D-Day Posts: 709
    DM World Tour 2024/25 in the rearview mirror



  • bobasfeet
    bobasfeet Posts: 1,197
    on2legs said:
    Keep it rolling please, Pearl Jam. 
    THIS. In all aspects. Rest recharge and record. (please)
  • D-Day
    D-Day Posts: 709
    I thought some South America shows are more likely than a TEN or a11 on the scoreboard 2025.
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,992
    darwinstheory said:
    D-Rod said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Absolutely!  Philly needs some shows    
    You know who is long overdue for shoes? 
    The shoeless???
    Haha,  apparently I didn’t have my glasses on when I wrote this. 
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • The_Giant_Midget
    The_Giant_Midget Los Angeles Posts: 599
    agreed on this, it was the first time going to shows for a new album hoping to hear as many new songs as possible. didn't really have that feeling at all for the few albums before Dark Matter. I even find myself going on Nugs just to listen to different versions of DM songs only, really hope the band realizes this and keeps touring for it. 
    Beacon '08
    Philly 2-4 '09
    Newark '10
    MSG 1+2 '10
    E.V. Beacon 1+2 '11
    Made in America Festival '12
    Worcester 1+2 '13
    Brooklyn 1+2 '13
    Global Citizens Festival '15
    MSG 1+2 '16
    Fenway Park 1+2 '16
    Ohana '17
    Home Shows 1+2 '18
    Ohana '18
    Ohana '19
    Sea Hear Now '21
    Ohana '21
    LA 1+2 '22
    Austin 1+2 '23
    Ohana '23
    Vegas 1+2 '24
    LA 1+2 '24
    MSG 1+2 '24
    Ohana '24
  • Shaindli1
    Shaindli1 MA Posts: 2,496
    I keep listening to the Pitts shows. Yesterday x2 of each.
    Please sirs, can we have some more?
    #Grievance2025 
  • deb1211
    deb1211 Posts: 2,083
    I just watched a reaction on you tube to dark matter and im all fired up again. I couldn't get enough of it live..and i was getting goosebumps watching this guy react to it.
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,795
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTIHyGBoZ5Y
  • eboweddie
    eboweddie Posts: 1,102
    What a fucking record this is. It's phenomenal  imo

    i wish i wish i wish i wish, i guess it never stops
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,795
    eboweddie said:
    What a fucking record this is. It's phenomenal  imo


    So glad I was able to experience Dark Matter live in Seattle, Philadelphia & Baltimore. 

  • BF89905
    BF89905 Posts: 1,448
    eboweddie said:
    What a fucking record this is. It's phenomenal  imo

  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,271
    edited July 24
    stones said:
    From the outside it does seem like they ended the DM tour earlier than what might have originally been planned...  No South America, limited shows in Canada and Europe - even before the cancellations it was a limited European run, skipping usual tour stops in Italy, Benelux and Eastern Europe completely...  that doesn't really make much sense based on the investment in the new stage set-up, how much they seemed to enjoy playing the new songs and how proud they were of the album.

    Total speculation but I do wonder if a factor in officially drawing a line under the DM tour is being able to play sooner in the cities in Europe that were cancelled.  Insurance payments limit the ability to play anything that could be any way conceived as a rescheduled date - so maybe next time it needs to be a different tour??


    The way this band has been fucked by fate from 2018 to now...it's a sight not seen since the 90s and Ticketmaster.

    2018: There could have been a new album and obviously more shows than what we got.

    2019: Had the 2018 album happened, 2019 would have been a busy touring year.

    2020-2022: How few shows did they play in those three years? Not a lot.

    2023: Nine shows announced, but only eight happened.

    2024: A fairly busy year, thanks to a new album.

    2025: Not that many shows.

    2026: Most likely nothing.

    2027: TBD.

    Let's say the 2018 album happens and COVID doesn't happen. It's anyone's guess.

    Although, typing this out, I wonder when the "seed of doubt" started to creep into Matt's head. I'm guessing he was committed to touring Gigaton. Dark Matter was recorded in 2023, so I wonder if the seed was planted then.

    I think it's a safe guess the band knew Matt was done by the time they took the Hollywood stage. If Matt didn't retire from Pearl Jam, I bet they tour Europe in June/July 2025, aka right now. I'm guessing he told them late last summer, or else the rumors and leaks for Europe would have happened.

    August/September 2024: "Hey guys, this is probably gonna be a surprise, but I'm not really feeling it anymore. Let's just do a small run of shows early next year and maybe keep the door open for late 2025. Let's not talk to our usual Europeans about touring there next June/July."

    Things come in threes:
    1) The 2018 album.
    2) COVID.
    3) Matt leaving.
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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,810
    There were a ton of shows in 2022.
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,167
    2018 album? Did I forget something? 
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

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