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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,130
    shecky said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:

    The church said it's terminating a decades-long partnership with the federal government to help refugees arriving in the U.S., citing moral opposition to resettling white Afrikaners from South Africa.
    I have not read into this but have heard about it on the news briefly.

    I ask this.  What is the problem of white Afrikaners coming here?  I understand they aren't brown or is this because Musk is from that area so it has to be something bad?

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  • josevolution
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    I wonder how many crosses there would be if they up one for each black civilian killed by the apartheid government over the years? 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,208
    josevolution said:
    I wonder how many crosses there would be if they up one for each black civilian killed by the apartheid government over the years? 
    I wonder if this meme can even be verified or if we are just supposed to take their word for it.
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  • Tim Simmons
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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_farm_attacks
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  • mickeyrat
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    Judge says Trump administration not detailing efforts to return wrongly deported man - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/court-hears-new-arguments-over-trumps-efforts-return-wrongly-deported-man-2025-05-16/
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  • mickeyrat
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    ACTUAL SOUTH AFRICAN: “To Americans who might be tempted to believe Trump and Musk about the ‘South African white genocide’ — they have no f*cking idea what they’re talking about. They’re taking the word of a fringe racist group who see equality as oppression.” (Sound familiar?)
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  • Tim Simmons
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    Dave Matthews, your time is now. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Mexico attacked the United States! Quick, nuke them! Or make them the 53rd state! Or at least make them pay for the damage! Okay, we’ll blame DEI for making the bridge too short. That’ll do. Remember, only COOTWH and COOTWH alone can fix it!
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  • mickeyrat
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    Low-income migrants fined up to $1.8 million by Trump administration - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/low-income-migrants-fined-up-18-million-by-trump-administration-2025-05-20/
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  • shecky
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  • tbergs
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    shecky said:

    I'm guessing this is new to you and you haven't done much reading on this topic besides the screen grabs above. This story is from 2019, but should help you understand things better and not just post half-truths and flat out inflated lies about white genocide that doesn't exist.

    https://harpers.org/archive/2019/03/the-myth-of-white-genocide-in-south-africa/
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,812
    And you really think you are more informed on this topic from reading a 2019 magazine article than the White House and President Trump are from recent intel as of May 21, 2025? Absurd.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,502
    edited May 21
    shecky said:
    And you really think you are more informed on this topic from reading a 2019 magazine article than the White House and President Trump are from recent intel as of May 21, 2025? Absurd.
    Hmmm, good question. I don't claim to know more. I'm not the one posting one-sided, unchecked attempts at a gotcha from our current POTUS while meeting with a foreign leader. I do know that I have no political interest in fabricating or exaggerating the plight of those in South Africa no matter what their background is. Do you think the same is true of the current admin? Why do they care so much about white South Africans? I don't see them extending this refugee status to other people being murdered war torn areas. What could be the reason 🤔

    Intel? Do go on, what is this new intel you speak of?
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  • Tim Simmons
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    edited May 22
    shecky said:
    And you really think you are more informed on this topic from reading a 2019 magazine article than the White House and President Trump are from recent intel as of May 21, 2025? Absurd.
    Without a doubt. Without knowing a thing about tbergs or what he knows. Yes. Absolutely with out hesitation yes.
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  • Tim Simmons
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    also. Benny Johnson. Lol
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    COOTWH doesn’t even read his daily intelligence brief. And some rely upon him for “intel “? Hilarious.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    So, is there really white genocide in South Africa? Would someone please reach out to Bibi for his thoughts on the matter?
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    So, is there really white genocide in South Africa? Would someone please reach out to Bibi for his thoughts on the matter?
    It is an interesting story.  I remember reading about reverse reoperations years ago where land was taken form the white farmers and reallocated. This was 30 years ago? Never dove into it though.

    Is it happening though? Is it an all out assault on white people there or a few hundred? Dozens? If this were happening here to any other minority it would be a big story.

    It's also as if people want to say "oh it's not that bad.  Only a X number of people have died and dismiss it.

    I don't think its a genocide though.  That would be a bunch of bodies that you can't hide.

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