2025 Fan to Fan Exchange and ISO/FT/FS Thread
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Which leads the question: Is 10C just good for the GA lottery and MSG?SHZA said:
I didn't analyze it that closely but my sense was that Nash 2 was a tougher ticket than ATL 2. Both seemed to have plenty of good seats for n1. Same days of the week, Tuesday-ThursdayKJ228171 said:
I think Nashville was the softest market. There have been plenty of good pairs that have sat for a while at Raleigh but I gauge the demand by the PJ Premium releases. Raleigh has had the wing releases like everywhere else and some lower bowl but so far that’s it. Atlanta N2 had whole rows on the floor (back of section 2 and 3) released 24 hours before the show. I’ve been checking all day and I’ve not been lucky enough to catch GA. 116, 117, 105 and 106 have had tempting pairs. 108 has some now too.CROJAM95 said:
These shows easily the softest market of the tour… imBerlin2000 said:
Something wrong with my Ticketmaster? I’ve been refreshing all day and saw the exact same tickets all day long. No change at all. What am I doing wrong?CROJAM95 said:^ I’ve seen prob 1/2 dozen pairs, prob same on singles today
hearing lot of people sick from traveling, prob some Mother’s Day bail outs too
just saw a single… great wings in 106 vv aisle sat for hours
just need to se it and quickly checkout, not easy
some may be ghost tickets but I e seen a bunch
im just relaxing around my hotel, been checking here n there
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Well, there's access to this forum and some exclusive merch. But in terms of tickets, I'd say yes unless you have a low enough number to get seats you're happy with. My number isn't good enough to pull seats I'd ever useKJ228171 said:
Which leads the question: Is 10C just good for the GA lottery and MSG?.SHZA said:
I didn't analyze it that closely but my sense was that Nash 2 was a tougher ticket than ATL 2. Both seemed to have plenty of good seats for n1. Same days of the week, Tuesday-ThursdayKJ228171 said:
I think Nashville was the softest market. There have been plenty of good pairs that have sat for a while at Raleigh but I gauge the demand by the PJ Premium releases. Raleigh has had the wing releases like everywhere else and some lower bowl but so far that’s it. Atlanta N2 had whole rows on the floor (back of section 2 and 3) released 24 hours before the show. I’ve been checking all day and I’ve not been lucky enough to catch GA. 116, 117, 105 and 106 have had tempting pairs. 108 has some now too.CROJAM95 said:
These shows easily the softest market of the tour… imBerlin2000 said:
Something wrong with my Ticketmaster? I’ve been refreshing all day and saw the exact same tickets all day long. No change at all. What am I doing wrong?CROJAM95 said:^ I’ve seen prob 1/2 dozen pairs, prob same on singles today
hearing lot of people sick from traveling, prob some Mother’s Day bail outs too
just saw a single… great wings in 106 vv aisle sat for hours
just need to se it and quickly checkout, not easy
some may be ghost tickets but I e seen a bunch
im just relaxing around my hotel, been checking here n there
good luck0 -
Since everyone has access to the resales it diminishes the best perk of the club. It should give them a reason to fix the problems with F2F. I’m not dropping my membership and I guess because of people like me is why it won’t get fixed. You are right that the forum is a good perk. Although much can be replicated by a mix of Facebook and Reddit it’s not the same.SHZA said:
Well, there's access to this forum and some exclusive merch. But in terms of tickets, I'd say yes unless you have a low enough number to get seats you're happy with. My number isn't good enough to pull seats I'd ever useKJ228171 said:
Which leads the question: Is 10C just good for the GA lottery and MSG?.SHZA said:
I didn't analyze it that closely but my sense was that Nash 2 was a tougher ticket than ATL 2. Both seemed to have plenty of good seats for n1. Same days of the week, Tuesday-ThursdayKJ228171 said:
I think Nashville was the softest market. There have been plenty of good pairs that have sat for a while at Raleigh but I gauge the demand by the PJ Premium releases. Raleigh has had the wing releases like everywhere else and some lower bowl but so far that’s it. Atlanta N2 had whole rows on the floor (back of section 2 and 3) released 24 hours before the show. I’ve been checking all day and I’ve not been lucky enough to catch GA. 116, 117, 105 and 106 have had tempting pairs. 108 has some now too.CROJAM95 said:
These shows easily the softest market of the tour… imBerlin2000 said:
Something wrong with my Ticketmaster? I’ve been refreshing all day and saw the exact same tickets all day long. No change at all. What am I doing wrong?CROJAM95 said:^ I’ve seen prob 1/2 dozen pairs, prob same on singles today
hearing lot of people sick from traveling, prob some Mother’s Day bail outs too
just saw a single… great wings in 106 vv aisle sat for hours
just need to se it and quickly checkout, not easy
some may be ghost tickets but I e seen a bunch
im just relaxing around my hotel, been checking here n there
good luck
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I only got into the Florida shows because of 10 club. I was never going to pay $1k for a ticket.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230 -
Yes, but the ability to get GA is a HUGE perk if you care about that since it's literally impossible to get GA without being in 10C (unless, of course, you're one of the lucky few to snag one in F2F or are willing to pay huge money via resale sites).KJ228171 said:
Which leads the question: Is 10C just good for the GA lottery and MSG?SHZA said:
I didn't analyze it that closely but my sense was that Nash 2 was a tougher ticket than ATL 2. Both seemed to have plenty of good seats for n1. Same days of the week, Tuesday-ThursdayKJ228171 said:
I think Nashville was the softest market. There have been plenty of good pairs that have sat for a while at Raleigh but I gauge the demand by the PJ Premium releases. Raleigh has had the wing releases like everywhere else and some lower bowl but so far that’s it. Atlanta N2 had whole rows on the floor (back of section 2 and 3) released 24 hours before the show. I’ve been checking all day and I’ve not been lucky enough to catch GA. 116, 117, 105 and 106 have had tempting pairs. 108 has some now too.CROJAM95 said:
These shows easily the softest market of the tour… imBerlin2000 said:
Something wrong with my Ticketmaster? I’ve been refreshing all day and saw the exact same tickets all day long. No change at all. What am I doing wrong?CROJAM95 said:^ I’ve seen prob 1/2 dozen pairs, prob same on singles today
hearing lot of people sick from traveling, prob some Mother’s Day bail outs too
just saw a single… great wings in 106 vv aisle sat for hours
just need to se it and quickly checkout, not easy
some may be ghost tickets but I e seen a bunch
im just relaxing around my hotel, been checking here n there
good luckEverything has chains...Absolutely nothing's changed. - PJ
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” - Albert Camus0 -
PJ does a great job getting tickets into the hands of 10Cers when tickets are sold, Asking them to control the resale market is a huge ask.KJ228171 said:
Since everyone has access to the resales it diminishes the best perk of the club. It should give them a reason to fix the problems with F2F. I’m not dropping my membership and I guess because of people like me is why it won’t get fixed. You are right that the forum is a good perk. Although much can be replicated by a mix of Facebook and Reddit it’s not the same.SHZA said:
Well, there's access to this forum and some exclusive merch. But in terms of tickets, I'd say yes unless you have a low enough number to get seats you're happy with. My number isn't good enough to pull seats I'd ever useKJ228171 said:
Which leads the question: Is 10C just good for the GA lottery and MSG?.SHZA said:
I didn't analyze it that closely but my sense was that Nash 2 was a tougher ticket than ATL 2. Both seemed to have plenty of good seats for n1. Same days of the week, Tuesday-ThursdayKJ228171 said:
I think Nashville was the softest market. There have been plenty of good pairs that have sat for a while at Raleigh but I gauge the demand by the PJ Premium releases. Raleigh has had the wing releases like everywhere else and some lower bowl but so far that’s it. Atlanta N2 had whole rows on the floor (back of section 2 and 3) released 24 hours before the show. I’ve been checking all day and I’ve not been lucky enough to catch GA. 116, 117, 105 and 106 have had tempting pairs. 108 has some now too.CROJAM95 said:
These shows easily the softest market of the tour… imBerlin2000 said:
Something wrong with my Ticketmaster? I’ve been refreshing all day and saw the exact same tickets all day long. No change at all. What am I doing wrong?CROJAM95 said:^ I’ve seen prob 1/2 dozen pairs, prob same on singles today
hearing lot of people sick from traveling, prob some Mother’s Day bail outs too
just saw a single… great wings in 106 vv aisle sat for hours
just need to se it and quickly checkout, not easy
some may be ghost tickets but I e seen a bunch
im just relaxing around my hotel, been checking here n there
good luck0 -
They created the resale market though.danofun said:
PJ does a great job getting tickets into the hands of 10Cers when tickets are sold, Asking them to control the resale market is a huge ask.KJ228171 said:
Since everyone has access to the resales it diminishes the best perk of the club. It should give them a reason to fix the problems with F2F. I’m not dropping my membership and I guess because of people like me is why it won’t get fixed. You are right that the forum is a good perk. Although much can be replicated by a mix of Facebook and Reddit it’s not the same.SHZA said:
Well, there's access to this forum and some exclusive merch. But in terms of tickets, I'd say yes unless you have a low enough number to get seats you're happy with. My number isn't good enough to pull seats I'd ever useKJ228171 said:
Which leads the question: Is 10C just good for the GA lottery and MSG?.SHZA said:
I didn't analyze it that closely but my sense was that Nash 2 was a tougher ticket than ATL 2. Both seemed to have plenty of good seats for n1. Same days of the week, Tuesday-ThursdayKJ228171 said:
I think Nashville was the softest market. There have been plenty of good pairs that have sat for a while at Raleigh but I gauge the demand by the PJ Premium releases. Raleigh has had the wing releases like everywhere else and some lower bowl but so far that’s it. Atlanta N2 had whole rows on the floor (back of section 2 and 3) released 24 hours before the show. I’ve been checking all day and I’ve not been lucky enough to catch GA. 116, 117, 105 and 106 have had tempting pairs. 108 has some now too.CROJAM95 said:
These shows easily the softest market of the tour… imBerlin2000 said:
Something wrong with my Ticketmaster? I’ve been refreshing all day and saw the exact same tickets all day long. No change at all. What am I doing wrong?CROJAM95 said:^ I’ve seen prob 1/2 dozen pairs, prob same on singles today
hearing lot of people sick from traveling, prob some Mother’s Day bail outs too
just saw a single… great wings in 106 vv aisle sat for hours
just need to se it and quickly checkout, not easy
some may be ghost tickets but I e seen a bunch
im just relaxing around my hotel, been checking here n there
good luck0 -
There’s always a resale market. They’ve simply tried to assist. Only way to have full control of tickets is to separate venues from ticketing.PJNB said:
They created the resale market though.danofun said:
PJ does a great job getting tickets into the hands of 10Cers when tickets are sold, Asking them to control the resale market is a huge ask.KJ228171 said:
Since everyone has access to the resales it diminishes the best perk of the club. It should give them a reason to fix the problems with F2F. I’m not dropping my membership and I guess because of people like me is why it won’t get fixed. You are right that the forum is a good perk. Although much can be replicated by a mix of Facebook and Reddit it’s not the same.SHZA said:
Well, there's access to this forum and some exclusive merch. But in terms of tickets, I'd say yes unless you have a low enough number to get seats you're happy with. My number isn't good enough to pull seats I'd ever useKJ228171 said:
Which leads the question: Is 10C just good for the GA lottery and MSG?.SHZA said:
I didn't analyze it that closely but my sense was that Nash 2 was a tougher ticket than ATL 2. Both seemed to have plenty of good seats for n1. Same days of the week, Tuesday-ThursdayKJ228171 said:
I think Nashville was the softest market. There have been plenty of good pairs that have sat for a while at Raleigh but I gauge the demand by the PJ Premium releases. Raleigh has had the wing releases like everywhere else and some lower bowl but so far that’s it. Atlanta N2 had whole rows on the floor (back of section 2 and 3) released 24 hours before the show. I’ve been checking all day and I’ve not been lucky enough to catch GA. 116, 117, 105 and 106 have had tempting pairs. 108 has some now too.CROJAM95 said:
These shows easily the softest market of the tour… imBerlin2000 said:
Something wrong with my Ticketmaster? I’ve been refreshing all day and saw the exact same tickets all day long. No change at all. What am I doing wrong?CROJAM95 said:^ I’ve seen prob 1/2 dozen pairs, prob same on singles today
hearing lot of people sick from traveling, prob some Mother’s Day bail outs too
just saw a single… great wings in 106 vv aisle sat for hours
just need to se it and quickly checkout, not easy
some may be ghost tickets but I e seen a bunch
im just relaxing around my hotel, been checking here n there
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There was only a small resale market in the past though with 10C since you had to be at the venue to get them to hand them off to someone else. They are the ones that opened this up to fan to fan and allowing anyone to buy tickets and then resell to bots.danofun said:
There’s always a resale market. They’ve simply tried to assist. Only way to have full control of tickets is to separate venues from ticketing.PJNB said:
They created the resale market though.danofun said:
PJ does a great job getting tickets into the hands of 10Cers when tickets are sold, Asking them to control the resale market is a huge ask.KJ228171 said:
Since everyone has access to the resales it diminishes the best perk of the club. It should give them a reason to fix the problems with F2F. I’m not dropping my membership and I guess because of people like me is why it won’t get fixed. You are right that the forum is a good perk. Although much can be replicated by a mix of Facebook and Reddit it’s not the same.SHZA said:
Well, there's access to this forum and some exclusive merch. But in terms of tickets, I'd say yes unless you have a low enough number to get seats you're happy with. My number isn't good enough to pull seats I'd ever useKJ228171 said:
Which leads the question: Is 10C just good for the GA lottery and MSG?.SHZA said:
I didn't analyze it that closely but my sense was that Nash 2 was a tougher ticket than ATL 2. Both seemed to have plenty of good seats for n1. Same days of the week, Tuesday-ThursdayKJ228171 said:
I think Nashville was the softest market. There have been plenty of good pairs that have sat for a while at Raleigh but I gauge the demand by the PJ Premium releases. Raleigh has had the wing releases like everywhere else and some lower bowl but so far that’s it. Atlanta N2 had whole rows on the floor (back of section 2 and 3) released 24 hours before the show. I’ve been checking all day and I’ve not been lucky enough to catch GA. 116, 117, 105 and 106 have had tempting pairs. 108 has some now too.CROJAM95 said:
These shows easily the softest market of the tour… imBerlin2000 said:
Something wrong with my Ticketmaster? I’ve been refreshing all day and saw the exact same tickets all day long. No change at all. What am I doing wrong?CROJAM95 said:^ I’ve seen prob 1/2 dozen pairs, prob same on singles today
hearing lot of people sick from traveling, prob some Mother’s Day bail outs too
just saw a single… great wings in 106 vv aisle sat for hours
just need to se it and quickly checkout, not easy
some may be ghost tickets but I e seen a bunch
im just relaxing around my hotel, been checking here n there
good luck0 -
Change in management and contract options eliminated that option. We’ve seen this debate countless times on this forum so no need to have it again. The only ones who know what options exist and what concessions need to be made are those negotiating the deal between the band and Live nation/TM.PJNB said:
There was only a small resale market in the past though with 10C since you had to be at the venue to get them to hand them off to someone else. They are the ones that opened this up to fan to fan and allowing anyone to buy tickets and then resell to bots.danofun said:
There’s always a resale market. They’ve simply tried to assist. Only way to have full control of tickets is to separate venues from ticketing.PJNB said:
They created the resale market though.danofun said:
PJ does a great job getting tickets into the hands of 10Cers when tickets are sold, Asking them to control the resale market is a huge ask.KJ228171 said:
Since everyone has access to the resales it diminishes the best perk of the club. It should give them a reason to fix the problems with F2F. I’m not dropping my membership and I guess because of people like me is why it won’t get fixed. You are right that the forum is a good perk. Although much can be replicated by a mix of Facebook and Reddit it’s not the same.SHZA said:
Well, there's access to this forum and some exclusive merch. But in terms of tickets, I'd say yes unless you have a low enough number to get seats you're happy with. My number isn't good enough to pull seats I'd ever useKJ228171 said:
Which leads the question: Is 10C just good for the GA lottery and MSG?.SHZA said:
I didn't analyze it that closely but my sense was that Nash 2 was a tougher ticket than ATL 2. Both seemed to have plenty of good seats for n1. Same days of the week, Tuesday-ThursdayKJ228171 said:
I think Nashville was the softest market. There have been plenty of good pairs that have sat for a while at Raleigh but I gauge the demand by the PJ Premium releases. Raleigh has had the wing releases like everywhere else and some lower bowl but so far that’s it. Atlanta N2 had whole rows on the floor (back of section 2 and 3) released 24 hours before the show. I’ve been checking all day and I’ve not been lucky enough to catch GA. 116, 117, 105 and 106 have had tempting pairs. 108 has some now too.CROJAM95 said:
These shows easily the softest market of the tour… imBerlin2000 said:
Something wrong with my Ticketmaster? I’ve been refreshing all day and saw the exact same tickets all day long. No change at all. What am I doing wrong?CROJAM95 said:^ I’ve seen prob 1/2 dozen pairs, prob same on singles today
hearing lot of people sick from traveling, prob some Mother’s Day bail outs too
just saw a single… great wings in 106 vv aisle sat for hours
just need to se it and quickly checkout, not easy
some may be ghost tickets but I e seen a bunch
im just relaxing around my hotel, been checking here n there
good luck0 -
Sure but at the end of the day Pearl Jam has signed up to agree to a resale platform that is broken and most of tickets are being snatched up and sold on resale markets. Own that and own the fact people are frustrated with your platform.danofun said:
Change in management and contract options eliminated that option. We’ve seen this debate countless times on this forum so no need to have it again. The only ones who know what options exist and what concessions need to be made are those negotiating the deal between the band and Live nation/TM.PJNB said:
There was only a small resale market in the past though with 10C since you had to be at the venue to get them to hand them off to someone else. They are the ones that opened this up to fan to fan and allowing anyone to buy tickets and then resell to bots.danofun said:
There’s always a resale market. They’ve simply tried to assist. Only way to have full control of tickets is to separate venues from ticketing.PJNB said:
They created the resale market though.danofun said:
PJ does a great job getting tickets into the hands of 10Cers when tickets are sold, Asking them to control the resale market is a huge ask.KJ228171 said:
Since everyone has access to the resales it diminishes the best perk of the club. It should give them a reason to fix the problems with F2F. I’m not dropping my membership and I guess because of people like me is why it won’t get fixed. You are right that the forum is a good perk. Although much can be replicated by a mix of Facebook and Reddit it’s not the same.SHZA said:
Well, there's access to this forum and some exclusive merch. But in terms of tickets, I'd say yes unless you have a low enough number to get seats you're happy with. My number isn't good enough to pull seats I'd ever useKJ228171 said:
Which leads the question: Is 10C just good for the GA lottery and MSG?.SHZA said:
I didn't analyze it that closely but my sense was that Nash 2 was a tougher ticket than ATL 2. Both seemed to have plenty of good seats for n1. Same days of the week, Tuesday-ThursdayKJ228171 said:
I think Nashville was the softest market. There have been plenty of good pairs that have sat for a while at Raleigh but I gauge the demand by the PJ Premium releases. Raleigh has had the wing releases like everywhere else and some lower bowl but so far that’s it. Atlanta N2 had whole rows on the floor (back of section 2 and 3) released 24 hours before the show. I’ve been checking all day and I’ve not been lucky enough to catch GA. 116, 117, 105 and 106 have had tempting pairs. 108 has some now too.CROJAM95 said:
These shows easily the softest market of the tour… imBerlin2000 said:
Something wrong with my Ticketmaster? I’ve been refreshing all day and saw the exact same tickets all day long. No change at all. What am I doing wrong?CROJAM95 said:^ I’ve seen prob 1/2 dozen pairs, prob same on singles today
hearing lot of people sick from traveling, prob some Mother’s Day bail outs too
just saw a single… great wings in 106 vv aisle sat for hours
just need to se it and quickly checkout, not easy
some may be ghost tickets but I e seen a bunch
im just relaxing around my hotel, been checking here n there
good luck
They need to stop acting like they are doing us a favour and it’s fan friendly. Maybe it was intended to be but it is not. It is the exact opposite. This is coming from someone that has got GA for every show that I have wanted to since 2020.
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danofun said:
PJ does a great job getting tickets into the hands of 10Cers when tickets are sold, Asking them to control the resale market is a huge ask.KJ228171 said:
Since everyone has access to the resales it diminishes the best perk of the club. It should give them a reason to fix the problems with F2F. I’m not dropping my membership and I guess because of people like me is why it won’t get fixed. You are right that the forum is a good perk. Although much can be replicated by a mix of Facebook and Reddit it’s not the same.SHZA said:
Well, there's access to this forum and some exclusive merch. But in terms of tickets, I'd say yes unless you have a low enough number to get seats you're happy with. My number isn't good enough to pull seats I'd ever useKJ228171 said:
Which leads the question: Is 10C just good for the GA lottery and MSG?.SHZA said:
I didn't analyze it that closely but my sense was that Nash 2 was a tougher ticket than ATL 2. Both seemed to have plenty of good seats for n1. Same days of the week, Tuesday-ThursdayKJ228171 said:
I think Nashville was the softest market. There have been plenty of good pairs that have sat for a while at Raleigh but I gauge the demand by the PJ Premium releases. Raleigh has had the wing releases like everywhere else and some lower bowl but so far that’s it. Atlanta N2 had whole rows on the floor (back of section 2 and 3) released 24 hours before the show. I’ve been checking all day and I’ve not been lucky enough to catch GA. 116, 117, 105 and 106 have had tempting pairs. 108 has some now too.CROJAM95 said:
These shows easily the softest market of the tour… imBerlin2000 said:
Something wrong with my Ticketmaster? I’ve been refreshing all day and saw the exact same tickets all day long. No change at all. What am I doing wrong?CROJAM95 said:^ I’ve seen prob 1/2 dozen pairs, prob same on singles today
hearing lot of people sick from traveling, prob some Mother’s Day bail outs too
just saw a single… great wings in 106 vv aisle sat for hours
just need to se it and quickly checkout, not easy
some may be ghost tickets but I e seen a bunch
im just relaxing around my hotel, been checking here n there
good luckI'm not asking them to control the resale market. While I would prefer that 10C tickets stay within the club that doesn't look like it will ever happen. From this experience it's me that will probably be changing.What I'm saying is, as it stands, the resell market has become a better option than 10C which is a far cry from how it once was. For the next tour, if things don't change, what we are going to see is a huge amount of Fan Club members put in for every show trying to get GA. If they get GA for their show great. If they get GA for another show they can use it to horse trade for GA to their show. If they don't get GA they will get reserves....reserves they may not necessity want. The demand for 10C sales will increase. Since everyone has an equal shot at GA now, I think 10C membership will surge in the lead up from professional scalpers when they get word of an imminent tour. (I figure at the low end a scalper can make $500 off a GA. That's about 14 memberships for a break even.) Finances and carry costs will be the only limiting factor for regular Fan Club members. Not all 10C members can do this but a lot can. TM doesn't payout until after the shows which might eliminate some people. As soon as F2F opens those reserves will enter the market. Fan Club members that were shutout will now have to compete with bots, the general public and other Fan Club members for them. Members might use those reserves as chips to upgrade themselves. Why bother with the 10C lottery when the chances of scoring great seats (even GA) is the same or better. My 10C number puts be mid-bowl or the back of Fenway which are solid seats but I can do better in resells. I even scored two GA shows this time. ATL N1 (Facebook link found by a friend) which I ended up using and NASH N1 (from a Reddit link) for a friend on this forum. What's the incentive to do 10C sales the next tour? GA? Probability points to the fact that I will have to grind that out anyway if not for myself for others. I'm virtually guaranteed seats equal or better than my 10C seat on resales.The 10C business model (and yes that's what it's become) has evolved to reflect a band closer to its twilight than its origins. It's not as if I'm going to drop my 10C membership and I think that's true for a lot of people. That's been calculated into the business model. There is a reason that they ended the GA only lottery. Now it's GA AND reserves. If not most people would just do the GA lottery and take our chances for resales. That would reduces overall initial sales. I don't behoove the changing model but as a result I'm probability going to change my buying behavior.0 -
I realize that I'm just ranting now so apologizes in advance. One of the great benefits of 10C sales was that you were with other 10C members where ever you ended up. As a community, we are pretty damn good so that was great. I can't remember if it was here of another forum but a member told a story of putting a single up on 2F2 for this tour. Some one bought it and ended up stilling with the group. The member inquired about how they got the ticket and it was off TickPick or another of the smaller sites. The guy paid like $700+. It got me thinking. What stops someone from listing F2F tickets on a reseller? Some one goes to a reseller site, picks a ticket at an insane markup, the reseller buys it from TM and passes it to the buyer. It would require a low information buyer but that's still a big pool and marketing works. They might not think to even look at TM. It cost the reseller nothing. Worse case is some buys the ticket first and they just tell the buyer sorry try again. This seem like a viable business model with little risk. I think they might be doing it.To bring this back on topic: A single PJ Premium resale (floor -$600) is there for PIT N2 right now.Post edited by KJ228171 on0
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Excellent post! Also, how the hell...GA....for every show you want? A more obscure SHZA? HahaPJNB said:
Sure but at the end of the day Pearl Jam has signed up to agree to a resale platform that is broken and most of tickets are being snatched up and sold on resale markets. Own that and own the fact people are frustrated with your platform.danofun said:
Change in management and contract options eliminated that option. We’ve seen this debate countless times on this forum so no need to have it again. The only ones who know what options exist and what concessions need to be made are those negotiating the deal between the band and Live nation/TM.PJNB said:
There was only a small resale market in the past though with 10C since you had to be at the venue to get them to hand them off to someone else. They are the ones that opened this up to fan to fan and allowing anyone to buy tickets and then resell to bots.danofun said:
There’s always a resale market. They’ve simply tried to assist. Only way to have full control of tickets is to separate venues from ticketing.PJNB said:
They created the resale market though.danofun said:
PJ does a great job getting tickets into the hands of 10Cers when tickets are sold, Asking them to control the resale market is a huge ask.KJ228171 said:
Since everyone has access to the resales it diminishes the best perk of the club. It should give them a reason to fix the problems with F2F. I’m not dropping my membership and I guess because of people like me is why it won’t get fixed. You are right that the forum is a good perk. Although much can be replicated by a mix of Facebook and Reddit it’s not the same.SHZA said:
Well, there's access to this forum and some exclusive merch. But in terms of tickets, I'd say yes unless you have a low enough number to get seats you're happy with. My number isn't good enough to pull seats I'd ever useKJ228171 said:
Which leads the question: Is 10C just good for the GA lottery and MSG?.SHZA said:
I didn't analyze it that closely but my sense was that Nash 2 was a tougher ticket than ATL 2. Both seemed to have plenty of good seats for n1. Same days of the week, Tuesday-ThursdayKJ228171 said:
I think Nashville was the softest market. There have been plenty of good pairs that have sat for a while at Raleigh but I gauge the demand by the PJ Premium releases. Raleigh has had the wing releases like everywhere else and some lower bowl but so far that’s it. Atlanta N2 had whole rows on the floor (back of section 2 and 3) released 24 hours before the show. I’ve been checking all day and I’ve not been lucky enough to catch GA. 116, 117, 105 and 106 have had tempting pairs. 108 has some now too.CROJAM95 said:
These shows easily the softest market of the tour… imBerlin2000 said:
Something wrong with my Ticketmaster? I’ve been refreshing all day and saw the exact same tickets all day long. No change at all. What am I doing wrong?CROJAM95 said:^ I’ve seen prob 1/2 dozen pairs, prob same on singles today
hearing lot of people sick from traveling, prob some Mother’s Day bail outs too
just saw a single… great wings in 106 vv aisle sat for hours
just need to se it and quickly checkout, not easy
some may be ghost tickets but I e seen a bunch
im just relaxing around my hotel, been checking here n there
good luck
They need to stop acting like they are doing us a favour and it’s fan friendly. Maybe it was intended to be but it is not. It is the exact opposite. This is coming from someone that has got GA for every show that I have wanted to since 2020."A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory0 -
Jeff is Boom s god father so he gets ga whenever he wants. It must be nice to have a band connection.darwinstheory said:
Excellent post! Also, how the hell...GA....for every show you want? A more obscure SHZA? HahaPJNB said:
Sure but at the end of the day Pearl Jam has signed up to agree to a resale platform that is broken and most of tickets are being snatched up and sold on resale markets. Own that and own the fact people are frustrated with your platform.danofun said:
Change in management and contract options eliminated that option. We’ve seen this debate countless times on this forum so no need to have it again. The only ones who know what options exist and what concessions need to be made are those negotiating the deal between the band and Live nation/TM.PJNB said:
There was only a small resale market in the past though with 10C since you had to be at the venue to get them to hand them off to someone else. They are the ones that opened this up to fan to fan and allowing anyone to buy tickets and then resell to bots.danofun said:
There’s always a resale market. They’ve simply tried to assist. Only way to have full control of tickets is to separate venues from ticketing.PJNB said:
They created the resale market though.danofun said:
PJ does a great job getting tickets into the hands of 10Cers when tickets are sold, Asking them to control the resale market is a huge ask.KJ228171 said:
Since everyone has access to the resales it diminishes the best perk of the club. It should give them a reason to fix the problems with F2F. I’m not dropping my membership and I guess because of people like me is why it won’t get fixed. You are right that the forum is a good perk. Although much can be replicated by a mix of Facebook and Reddit it’s not the same.SHZA said:
Well, there's access to this forum and some exclusive merch. But in terms of tickets, I'd say yes unless you have a low enough number to get seats you're happy with. My number isn't good enough to pull seats I'd ever useKJ228171 said:
Which leads the question: Is 10C just good for the GA lottery and MSG?.SHZA said:
I didn't analyze it that closely but my sense was that Nash 2 was a tougher ticket than ATL 2. Both seemed to have plenty of good seats for n1. Same days of the week, Tuesday-ThursdayKJ228171 said:
I think Nashville was the softest market. There have been plenty of good pairs that have sat for a while at Raleigh but I gauge the demand by the PJ Premium releases. Raleigh has had the wing releases like everywhere else and some lower bowl but so far that’s it. Atlanta N2 had whole rows on the floor (back of section 2 and 3) released 24 hours before the show. I’ve been checking all day and I’ve not been lucky enough to catch GA. 116, 117, 105 and 106 have had tempting pairs. 108 has some now too.CROJAM95 said:
These shows easily the softest market of the tour… imBerlin2000 said:
Something wrong with my Ticketmaster? I’ve been refreshing all day and saw the exact same tickets all day long. No change at all. What am I doing wrong?CROJAM95 said:^ I’ve seen prob 1/2 dozen pairs, prob same on singles today
hearing lot of people sick from traveling, prob some Mother’s Day bail outs too
just saw a single… great wings in 106 vv aisle sat for hours
just need to se it and quickly checkout, not easy
some may be ghost tickets but I e seen a bunch
im just relaxing around my hotel, been checking here n there
good luck
They need to stop acting like they are doing us a favour and it’s fan friendly. Maybe it was intended to be but it is not. It is the exact opposite. This is coming from someone that has got GA for every show that I have wanted to since 2020.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Forgot to mention Mike that I got your Of the Earth request in for Pittsburgh.mcgruff10 said:
Jeff is Boom s god father so he gets ga whenever he wants. It must be nice to have a band connection.darwinstheory said:
Excellent post! Also, how the hell...GA....for every show you want? A more obscure SHZA? HahaPJNB said:
Sure but at the end of the day Pearl Jam has signed up to agree to a resale platform that is broken and most of tickets are being snatched up and sold on resale markets. Own that and own the fact people are frustrated with your platform.danofun said:
Change in management and contract options eliminated that option. We’ve seen this debate countless times on this forum so no need to have it again. The only ones who know what options exist and what concessions need to be made are those negotiating the deal between the band and Live nation/TM.PJNB said:
There was only a small resale market in the past though with 10C since you had to be at the venue to get them to hand them off to someone else. They are the ones that opened this up to fan to fan and allowing anyone to buy tickets and then resell to bots.danofun said:
There’s always a resale market. They’ve simply tried to assist. Only way to have full control of tickets is to separate venues from ticketing.PJNB said:
They created the resale market though.danofun said:
PJ does a great job getting tickets into the hands of 10Cers when tickets are sold, Asking them to control the resale market is a huge ask.KJ228171 said:
Since everyone has access to the resales it diminishes the best perk of the club. It should give them a reason to fix the problems with F2F. I’m not dropping my membership and I guess because of people like me is why it won’t get fixed. You are right that the forum is a good perk. Although much can be replicated by a mix of Facebook and Reddit it’s not the same.SHZA said:
Well, there's access to this forum and some exclusive merch. But in terms of tickets, I'd say yes unless you have a low enough number to get seats you're happy with. My number isn't good enough to pull seats I'd ever useKJ228171 said:
Which leads the question: Is 10C just good for the GA lottery and MSG?.SHZA said:
I didn't analyze it that closely but my sense was that Nash 2 was a tougher ticket than ATL 2. Both seemed to have plenty of good seats for n1. Same days of the week, Tuesday-ThursdayKJ228171 said:
I think Nashville was the softest market. There have been plenty of good pairs that have sat for a while at Raleigh but I gauge the demand by the PJ Premium releases. Raleigh has had the wing releases like everywhere else and some lower bowl but so far that’s it. Atlanta N2 had whole rows on the floor (back of section 2 and 3) released 24 hours before the show. I’ve been checking all day and I’ve not been lucky enough to catch GA. 116, 117, 105 and 106 have had tempting pairs. 108 has some now too.CROJAM95 said:
These shows easily the softest market of the tour… imBerlin2000 said:
Something wrong with my Ticketmaster? I’ve been refreshing all day and saw the exact same tickets all day long. No change at all. What am I doing wrong?CROJAM95 said:^ I’ve seen prob 1/2 dozen pairs, prob same on singles today
hearing lot of people sick from traveling, prob some Mother’s Day bail outs too
just saw a single… great wings in 106 vv aisle sat for hours
just need to se it and quickly checkout, not easy
some may be ghost tickets but I e seen a bunch
im just relaxing around my hotel, been checking here n there
good luck
They need to stop acting like they are doing us a favour and it’s fan friendly. Maybe it was intended to be but it is not. It is the exact opposite. This is coming from someone that has got GA for every show that I have wanted to since 2020.
Boom said Eddie will play it as long as it’s played right after You Are. Sorry!0 -
😂PJNB said:
Forgot to mention Mike that I got your Of the Earth request in for Pittsburgh.mcgruff10 said:
Jeff is Boom s god father so he gets ga whenever he wants. It must be nice to have a band connection.darwinstheory said:
Excellent post! Also, how the hell...GA....for every show you want? A more obscure SHZA? HahaPJNB said:
Sure but at the end of the day Pearl Jam has signed up to agree to a resale platform that is broken and most of tickets are being snatched up and sold on resale markets. Own that and own the fact people are frustrated with your platform.danofun said:
Change in management and contract options eliminated that option. We’ve seen this debate countless times on this forum so no need to have it again. The only ones who know what options exist and what concessions need to be made are those negotiating the deal between the band and Live nation/TM.PJNB said:
There was only a small resale market in the past though with 10C since you had to be at the venue to get them to hand them off to someone else. They are the ones that opened this up to fan to fan and allowing anyone to buy tickets and then resell to bots.danofun said:
There’s always a resale market. They’ve simply tried to assist. Only way to have full control of tickets is to separate venues from ticketing.PJNB said:
They created the resale market though.danofun said:
PJ does a great job getting tickets into the hands of 10Cers when tickets are sold, Asking them to control the resale market is a huge ask.KJ228171 said:
Since everyone has access to the resales it diminishes the best perk of the club. It should give them a reason to fix the problems with F2F. I’m not dropping my membership and I guess because of people like me is why it won’t get fixed. You are right that the forum is a good perk. Although much can be replicated by a mix of Facebook and Reddit it’s not the same.SHZA said:
Well, there's access to this forum and some exclusive merch. But in terms of tickets, I'd say yes unless you have a low enough number to get seats you're happy with. My number isn't good enough to pull seats I'd ever useKJ228171 said:
Which leads the question: Is 10C just good for the GA lottery and MSG?.SHZA said:
I didn't analyze it that closely but my sense was that Nash 2 was a tougher ticket than ATL 2. Both seemed to have plenty of good seats for n1. Same days of the week, Tuesday-ThursdayKJ228171 said:
I think Nashville was the softest market. There have been plenty of good pairs that have sat for a while at Raleigh but I gauge the demand by the PJ Premium releases. Raleigh has had the wing releases like everywhere else and some lower bowl but so far that’s it. Atlanta N2 had whole rows on the floor (back of section 2 and 3) released 24 hours before the show. I’ve been checking all day and I’ve not been lucky enough to catch GA. 116, 117, 105 and 106 have had tempting pairs. 108 has some now too.CROJAM95 said:
These shows easily the softest market of the tour… imBerlin2000 said:
Something wrong with my Ticketmaster? I’ve been refreshing all day and saw the exact same tickets all day long. No change at all. What am I doing wrong?CROJAM95 said:^ I’ve seen prob 1/2 dozen pairs, prob same on singles today
hearing lot of people sick from traveling, prob some Mother’s Day bail outs too
just saw a single… great wings in 106 vv aisle sat for hours
just need to se it and quickly checkout, not easy
some may be ghost tickets but I e seen a bunch
im just relaxing around my hotel, been checking here n there
good luck
They need to stop acting like they are doing us a favour and it’s fan friendly. Maybe it was intended to be but it is not. It is the exact opposite. This is coming from someone that has got GA for every show that I have wanted to since 2020.
Boom said Eddie will play it as long as it’s played right after You Are. Sorry!0 -
My activity has been paused on ticketmaster after checking it twice this morning. Fucking idiots.Appeared to be an animal, yet so polite.0
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You won’t get your account unblocked. Same happened to me. They told me I violated the terms and need to create a new one.runstaples said:My activity has been paused on ticketmaster after checking it twice this morning. Fucking idiots.0 -
I don’t know how I feel about thisPJNB said:
Forgot to mention Mike that I got your Of the Earth request in for Pittsburgh.mcgruff10 said:
Jeff is Boom s god father so he gets ga whenever he wants. It must be nice to have a band connection.darwinstheory said:
Excellent post! Also, how the hell...GA....for every show you want? A more obscure SHZA? HahaPJNB said:
Sure but at the end of the day Pearl Jam has signed up to agree to a resale platform that is broken and most of tickets are being snatched up and sold on resale markets. Own that and own the fact people are frustrated with your platform.danofun said:
Change in management and contract options eliminated that option. We’ve seen this debate countless times on this forum so no need to have it again. The only ones who know what options exist and what concessions need to be made are those negotiating the deal between the band and Live nation/TM.PJNB said:
There was only a small resale market in the past though with 10C since you had to be at the venue to get them to hand them off to someone else. They are the ones that opened this up to fan to fan and allowing anyone to buy tickets and then resell to bots.danofun said:
There’s always a resale market. They’ve simply tried to assist. Only way to have full control of tickets is to separate venues from ticketing.PJNB said:
They created the resale market though.danofun said:
PJ does a great job getting tickets into the hands of 10Cers when tickets are sold, Asking them to control the resale market is a huge ask.KJ228171 said:
Since everyone has access to the resales it diminishes the best perk of the club. It should give them a reason to fix the problems with F2F. I’m not dropping my membership and I guess because of people like me is why it won’t get fixed. You are right that the forum is a good perk. Although much can be replicated by a mix of Facebook and Reddit it’s not the same.SHZA said:
Well, there's access to this forum and some exclusive merch. But in terms of tickets, I'd say yes unless you have a low enough number to get seats you're happy with. My number isn't good enough to pull seats I'd ever useKJ228171 said:
Which leads the question: Is 10C just good for the GA lottery and MSG?.SHZA said:
I didn't analyze it that closely but my sense was that Nash 2 was a tougher ticket than ATL 2. Both seemed to have plenty of good seats for n1. Same days of the week, Tuesday-ThursdayKJ228171 said:
I think Nashville was the softest market. There have been plenty of good pairs that have sat for a while at Raleigh but I gauge the demand by the PJ Premium releases. Raleigh has had the wing releases like everywhere else and some lower bowl but so far that’s it. Atlanta N2 had whole rows on the floor (back of section 2 and 3) released 24 hours before the show. I’ve been checking all day and I’ve not been lucky enough to catch GA. 116, 117, 105 and 106 have had tempting pairs. 108 has some now too.CROJAM95 said:
These shows easily the softest market of the tour… imBerlin2000 said:
Something wrong with my Ticketmaster? I’ve been refreshing all day and saw the exact same tickets all day long. No change at all. What am I doing wrong?CROJAM95 said:^ I’ve seen prob 1/2 dozen pairs, prob same on singles today
hearing lot of people sick from traveling, prob some Mother’s Day bail outs too
just saw a single… great wings in 106 vv aisle sat for hours
just need to se it and quickly checkout, not easy
some may be ghost tickets but I e seen a bunch
im just relaxing around my hotel, been checking here n there
good luck
They need to stop acting like they are doing us a favour and it’s fan friendly. Maybe it was intended to be but it is not. It is the exact opposite. This is coming from someone that has got GA for every show that I have wanted to since 2020.
Boom said Eddie will play it as long as it’s played right after You Are. Sorry!
I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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