The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread

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  • kaw753kaw753 Posts: 927
    EMizner said:
    setlist41 said:
    matt84 said:
    DEGBTI said:
    listening to Rob on PJ radio a couple days ago, he said the Ohana lineup was a couple weeks away. So, that would be mid-leg of this tour.
    Based on previous years, is that a later announcement than usual?
    Yea, it's usually mid April.

    With the rumor of Green Day being a headliner I think we won’t get an Ohana announcement until after May 8 when the Coachella radius clause ends.
    Wait, didn't they already play at Coachella? Why couldn't they announce a show if Coachella already happened?
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,278
    kaw753 said:
    EMizner said:
    setlist41 said:
    matt84 said:
    DEGBTI said:
    listening to Rob on PJ radio a couple days ago, he said the Ohana lineup was a couple weeks away. So, that would be mid-leg of this tour.
    Based on previous years, is that a later announcement than usual?
    Yea, it's usually mid April.

    With the rumor of Green Day being a headliner I think we won’t get an Ohana announcement until after May 8 when the Coachella radius clause ends.
    Wait, didn't they already play at Coachella? Why couldn't they announce a show if Coachella already happened?
    Bullet 3
  • kaw753kaw753 Posts: 927
    pjl44 said:
    kaw753 said:
    EMizner said:
    setlist41 said:
    matt84 said:
    DEGBTI said:
    listening to Rob on PJ radio a couple days ago, he said the Ohana lineup was a couple weeks away. So, that would be mid-leg of this tour.
    Based on previous years, is that a later announcement than usual?
    Yea, it's usually mid April.

    With the rumor of Green Day being a headliner I think we won’t get an Ohana announcement until after May 8 when the Coachella radius clause ends.
    Wait, didn't they already play at Coachella? Why couldn't they announce a show if Coachella already happened?
    Bullet 3
    I see the point, but the bullet makes no sense. Why would Green Day announcing a show after Coachella is done impact Coachella? Kills the vibes? DVD sales?
  • uglybabouglybabo Posts: 530
  • Shaindli1Shaindli1 MA Posts: 1,709
    uglybabo said:
    The embargo is about "competing festivals."
  • uglybabouglybabo Posts: 530
    Shaindli1 said:
    uglybabo said:
    The embargo is about "competing festivals."
    It says ‘or a headlining show in Southern California’
  • aisleseatsaisleseats Posts: 1,627
    uglybabo said:
    Shaindli1 said:
    uglybabo said:
    The embargo is about "competing festivals."
    It says ‘or a headlining show in Southern California’
    "Publicizing any performances at competing festivals in California...until May 8"
  • DEGBTIDEGBTI san diego Posts: 993
    so lady gaga ef'ed up?

  • aisleseatsaisleseats Posts: 1,627
    DEGBTI said:
    so lady gaga ef'ed up?

    No. Not a festival.
  • uglybabouglybabo Posts: 530
    edited April 24
    DEGBTI said:
    so lady gaga ef'ed up?

    No. Not a festival.
    Publicizing any performances at competing festivals in California, it’s bordering states and Washington or a headlining concert in Southern California until May 8. 


    Post edited by uglybabo on
  • njhaley1njhaley1 Valley of the Sun Posts: 865
    DEGBTI said:
    so lady gaga ef'ed up?

    To be fair, so did Green Day when they "accidentally" posted a promo/give away for Ohana tickets.  Totally an accident, not at all a way to circumvent this silly contract.  

    Guess we'll be waiting a couple of weeks for an update.  
  • enddemenddem Posts: 169
    It's possible Lady Gaga asked for, and received, an exception. Or negotiated it as part of her agreement to perform at Coachella. 
  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 2,329
    She's excellent in negotiations. Phenomenal poker face.
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  • enddemenddem Posts: 169
    DE4173 said:
    She's excellent in negotiations. Phenomenal poker face.
    😂
  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 7,160
    edited April 25
    drfox said:
    My instinct is that there’s no more shows or just a few in South America. The merch for these Spring shows is all labelled as “Dark Matter 2025 Tour”. If more shows I would have guessed it would be labelled Spring Tour or US Tour.

    My instinct is they are taking a full year off after May and will be back next for Europe in June/July next year.


    This. If there were more shows planned and they were just in the "maybe possibly if things work out" stage, I'm sure the merch would be as you said.

    I think Ohana is the last holdout...but that might just be EV solo (with or without the Earthlings).

    If things were looking hopeful, they'd probably at least say "US 2025" or "Spring 2025".

    I've had the "2018/2019" feeling for a while now...enjoy these shows. These could be it for a while. OTOH, when they re-emerge after Pittsburgh (could be a while), the possibility for new music is definitely higher than 1%, given we know they recorded in Australia.

    ON THE OTHER HAND... I'd be surprised as all hell if they took the entirety of 2026 off.

    What was:
    2013 - Lightning Bolt and tour through 2016.
    2017 - Relatively quiet year
    2018 - South America, announced album and Home/Away Tour 
    2019 - Break year
    2020 - Gigaton released and COVID craziness.
    2021 - Beach Shows
    2022 - Tour
    2023 - Small tour
    2024 - Dark Matter

    What could have been:
    2013 - Album
    2018 - Album and tour
    2019 - Tour
    2020 - Tour? Album?
    2021 - Album?
    2022 -

    2018-2022 really screwed the band's cycle up. The good news? We're past that now.
    Post edited by Lost In Ohio on
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  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 2,329
    Honest question, and I'm not trying to be a smartass (really)...couldn't the merch for additional US dates still have "Dark Matter 2025 Tour" on it?
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  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 7,160
    DE4173 said:
    Honest question, and I'm not trying to be a smartass (really)...couldn't the merch for additional US dates still have "Dark Matter 2025 Tour" on it?


    Of course it *could* but...why would the first night have "2025 tour" and other merch be different?
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  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 2,329
    edited April 25
    **** This is just for fun; I'll delete if it's a problem****



    My ChatGPT effort (with sad spelling output 😆):

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  • Hello, does anyone know if Pearl Jam are coming to England this year?  Thank you.  
  • stonesstones Posts: 390
    Hello, does anyone know if Pearl Jam are coming to England this year?  Thank you.  
    There’s nothing rumoured for Europe this year.
  • kmcmanuskmcmanus Posts: 865
    drfox said:
    My instinct is that there’s no more shows or just a few in South America. The merch for these Spring shows is all labelled as “Dark Matter 2025 Tour”. If more shows I would have guessed it would be labelled Spring Tour or US Tour.

    My instinct is they are taking a full year off after May and will be back next for Europe in June/July next year.


    This. If there were more shows planned and they were just in the "maybe possibly if things work out" stage, I'm sure the merch would be as you said.

    I think Ohana is the last holdout...but that might just be EV solo (with or without the Earthlings).

    If things were looking hopeful, they'd probably at least say "US 2025" or "Spring 2025".

    I've had the "2018/2019" feeling for a while now...enjoy these shows. These could be it for a while. OTOH, when they re-emerge after Pittsburgh (could be a while), the possibility for new music is definitely higher than 1%, given we know they recorded in Australia.

    ON THE OTHER HAND... I'd be surprised as all hell if they took the entirety of 2026 off.

    What was:
    2013 - Lightning Bolt and tour through 2016.
    2017 - Relatively quiet year
    2018 - South America, announced album and Home/Away Tour 
    2019 - Break year
    2020 - Gigaton released and COVID craziness.
    2021 - Beach Shows
    2022 - Tour
    2023 - Small tour
    2024 - Dark Matter

    What could have been:
    2013 - Album
    2018 - Album and tour
    2019 - Tour
    2020 - Tour? Album?
    2021 - Album?
    2022 -

    2018-2022 really screwed the band's cycle up. The good news? We're past that now.
    They sat on DM for over a year. I don’t expect new music until 27 or 28 no matter when it’s finished. They seem to be trying to stretch things out. 
  • Zen23Zen23 Posts: 485
    On the one hand, it's a shame that they won't be back in Europe until 2026 at the earliest, but it does increase the chance that they'll get away from the fixed, predictable Dark Matter blocks in their setlist. If they also sell their visuals by then, that would be a dream come true. Once again Pearl Jam in its purest and most unpredictable form. I'd even pay their outrageously expensive ticket prices in Europe again for that. Oh, I'd even round it up to 200 euros. Let's see how close I can get to my dream again.
  • drfoxdrfox Posts: 1,424
    Zen23 said:
    On the one hand, it's a shame that they won't be back in Europe until 2026 at the earliest, but it does increase the chance that they'll get away from the fixed, predictable Dark Matter blocks in their setlist. If they also sell their visuals by then, that would be a dream come true. Once again Pearl Jam in its purest and most unpredictable form. I'd even pay their outrageously expensive ticket prices in Europe again for that. Oh, I'd even round it up to 200 euros. Let's see how close I can get to my dream again.
    I was kind of disappointed when Europe didn’t happen this year. But if they are having a year long rest, a European tour next year will be fantastic. I imagine they’ll turn up fully energised and raring to go!
  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,116
    kmcmanus said:
    drfox said:
    My instinct is that there’s no more shows or just a few in South America. The merch for these Spring shows is all labelled as “Dark Matter 2025 Tour”. If more shows I would have guessed it would be labelled Spring Tour or US Tour.

    My instinct is they are taking a full year off after May and will be back next for Europe in June/July next year.


    This. If there were more shows planned and they were just in the "maybe possibly if things work out" stage, I'm sure the merch would be as you said.

    I think Ohana is the last holdout...but that might just be EV solo (with or without the Earthlings).

    If things were looking hopeful, they'd probably at least say "US 2025" or "Spring 2025".

    I've had the "2018/2019" feeling for a while now...enjoy these shows. These could be it for a while. OTOH, when they re-emerge after Pittsburgh (could be a while), the possibility for new music is definitely higher than 1%, given we know they recorded in Australia.

    ON THE OTHER HAND... I'd be surprised as all hell if they took the entirety of 2026 off.

    What was:
    2013 - Lightning Bolt and tour through 2016.
    2017 - Relatively quiet year
    2018 - South America, announced album and Home/Away Tour 
    2019 - Break year
    2020 - Gigaton released and COVID craziness.
    2021 - Beach Shows
    2022 - Tour
    2023 - Small tour
    2024 - Dark Matter

    What could have been:
    2013 - Album
    2018 - Album and tour
    2019 - Tour
    2020 - Tour? Album?
    2021 - Album?
    2022 -

    2018-2022 really screwed the band's cycle up. The good news? We're past that now.
    They sat on DM for over a year. I don’t expect new music until 27 or 28 no matter when it’s finished. They seem to be trying to stretch things out. 
    Imagine having something so good and just not releasing it. Crazy yo! 
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  • PrezIntensePrezIntense Posts: 400

    I don’t know if this has been posted yet but…
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  • kmcmanuskmcmanus Posts: 865

    I don’t know if this has been posted yet but…
    Fake. It was on Reddit a couple days ago and people were giving date conflicts for several of these bands 
  • JABKJABK Finland Posts: 354
    Zen23 said:
    On the one hand, it's a shame that they won't be back in Europe until 2026 at the earliest, but it does increase the chance that they'll get away from the fixed, predictable Dark Matter blocks in their setlist. If they also sell their visuals by then, that would be a dream come true. Once again Pearl Jam in its purest and most unpredictable form. I'd even pay their outrageously expensive ticket prices in Europe again for that. Oh, I'd even round it up to 200 euros. Let's see how close I can get to my dream again.
    2026 it is! I allways love when a band does a non-album tour...it usually mean better setlists. Hoping for Prague or a double date in Stockholm.
  • RyanRyan Posts: 1,181
    After seeing the first two shows, it would be a shame if this leg is the only tour for 2025 with how good the band sounds.
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  • Have we heard anything about a possible Dark Matter Europe tour? Is South America first? So maybe Europe in the Fall? 
    Anything? Anyone? 
    I shit and I stink, I'm real, join the club...
  • RobbertRobbert Rotterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 1,012
    Have we heard anything about a possible Dark Matter Europe tour? Is South America first? So maybe Europe in the Fall? 
    Anything? Anyone? 
    We already had a DM EU Tour
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