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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,089

    President Trump’s Tariff Formula Makes No Economic Sense. It’s Also Based on an Error.


    https://www.aei.org/economics/president-trumps-tariff-formula-makes-no-economic-sense-its-also-based-on-an-error/

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,152


    You openly support a country whose culture and leadership treats women and gays like crap, force non conformists to live in segregated areas and murder those trying to peacefully protest. Yet support violent protests in my country and attack an actual American who was outraged to see violence on manhattan streets with classes and once in a lifetime graduation cancelled and children spit on.
    Do I openly support Iraq and their "culture", when being against your war criminal country buddy W Bush starting a war against the country and murdering thousands of civilians?

    Thanks for joining in. My comment was influenced by repeatedly being mocked and shouted down on this forum, something that is done overwhelmingly against non far left views here. It’s about repeated comments glorifying the rights of one side in a terrible war, accusations of supporting genocide for wanting a lasting peace, and fear my party will continue on its path to obscurity with continued far left views. If that attack on non leftist views is not common practice on amt, please identify all the maga posters and what happened to them.

    regarding Iraq and 2003 public opinion was overwhelming in support at the start, at about 70% for the Iraq war IIRC. I was part of the 30%.
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,251


    You openly support a country whose culture and leadership treats women and gays like crap, force non conformists to live in segregated areas and murder those trying to peacefully protest. Yet support violent protests in my country and attack an actual American who was outraged to see violence on manhattan streets with classes and once in a lifetime graduation cancelled and children spit on.
    Do I openly support Iraq and their "culture", when being against your war criminal country buddy W Bush starting a war against the country and murdering thousands of civilians?

    Thanks for joining in. My comment was influenced by repeatedly being mocked and shouted down on this forum, something that is done overwhelmingly against non far left views here. It’s about repeated comments glorifying the rights of one side in a terrible war, accusations of supporting genocide for wanting a lasting peace, and fear my party will continue on its path to obscurity with continued far left views. If that attack on non leftist views is not common practice on amt, please identify all the maga posters and what happened to them.

    regarding Iraq and 2003 public opinion was overwhelming in support at the start, at about 70% for the Iraq war IIRC. I was part of the 30%.
    How do you know the party is moving left, rather than the left just being the most vocal cohort of Democrats?
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,727


    You openly support a country whose culture and leadership treats women and gays like crap, force non conformists to live in segregated areas and murder those trying to peacefully protest. Yet support violent protests in my country and attack an actual American who was outraged to see violence on manhattan streets with classes and once in a lifetime graduation cancelled and children spit on.
    Do I openly support Iraq and their "culture", when being against your war criminal country buddy W Bush starting a war against the country and murdering thousands of civilians?
     fear my party will continue on its path to obscurity with continued far left views. 
    The party as a whole doesn't have far left views. There are left voices in the party, but they are not the majority. and for the pubic, those that far left don't support the democrats. So don't worry too much.

  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,727
    edited April 5


    You openly support a country whose culture and leadership treats women and gays like crap, force non conformists to live in segregated areas and murder those trying to peacefully protest. Yet support violent protests in my country and attack an actual American who was outraged to see violence on manhattan streets with classes and once in a lifetime graduation cancelled and children spit on.
    Do I openly support Iraq and their "culture", when being against your war criminal country buddy W Bush starting a war against the country and murdering thousands of civilians?

    please identify all the maga posters and what happened to them.


    Honestly, they got banned for being toxic, misogynistic, racist, or just plain aggressively trolly. They were voices posting not in good faith, and with purposeful intention to just irritate. then when the loud obnoxious ones went, the rest didn't have the balls to step up, proving that their posting was not in good faith. can't even stand up and argue for what they believe.

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,674


    You openly support a country whose culture and leadership treats women and gays like crap, force non conformists to live in segregated areas and murder those trying to peacefully protest. Yet support violent protests in my country and attack an actual American who was outraged to see violence on manhattan streets with classes and once in a lifetime graduation cancelled and children spit on.
    Do I openly support Iraq and their "culture", when being against your war criminal country buddy W Bush starting a war against the country and murdering thousands of civilians?

    please identify all the maga posters and what happened to them.


    Honestly, they got banned for being toxic, misogynistic, racist, or just plain aggressively trolly. They were voices posting not in good faith, and with purposeful intention to just irritate. then when the loud obnoxious ones went, the rest didn't have the balls to step up, proving that their posting was not in good faith. can't even stand up and argue for what they believe.

    Spot on 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,970
    Can we stick with the topics of the AMT threads instead of spending so much time arguing with people with a martyr complex.  Jimminny Cricket, we're ALL victims of the current move toward tyranny and oligarchy.  Instead, we should all be talking about how to defend freedom and Democracy.  There is no "village".  There's us, and there's the mega rich.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,762
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,727
    Pretty flippant thing to say from a guy who once wore a brown suit. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,715
    Pretty flippant thing to say from a guy who once wore a brown suit. 
    TAN
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




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  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 6,815
    We were so lucky to have him. I miss having someone so well spoken leading our nation.
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,368
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I couldn't care less what maher says, whether he's critical or loves him. He's a blowhard. 
    I agree. I used to like him, but he has morphed into an intolerable, arrogant loud mouth.

    Always been that. I guess he is just now saying stuff you don’t like. 
    Nope. He changed his personality. He used to be funny and more affable. Over the years he has become more and more full of himself abd like a grumpy old man.




    He gets attacked here because he speaks out about liberalism gone too far on a few topics. Dissent is not permitted. Dems version of R politics.

    “”Used to be funny?” He recently had a #1 book. In a climate with tv in significant decline, hbo decided to write him another $20 million check.

    But he is “full of himself.” A “blowhard.” “An old man” Only because he refuses to bow to the extremist views trying to take over the dem party. 

    Attack those who are different from us. Whose playbook is that?



    Yes Tim S, since you asked, if I see comments I believe are false, misleadingly attacking, I will supply facts to balance the debate.

    You're whole thesis is wrong. Democrats policies aren't the main problem, it's the takeover of how people get their news. It's the lies and disinformation. People are literally being brainwashed.

    Just look at Fox News website today. Nothing about the crashing markets.

    And social media is a cesspool of lies and misinformation. Republicans are the best at exploiting that. The Democrats just can't compete.

    And Bill Maher has changed. He's always been an asshole, but now he is a total out of touch rich old prick. A number one book and succesful tv show is not evidence that he's right or the same guy. Audiences and demographics change.

    Geez, the man has been attacking the far left for almost his entire career.

    The thesis is Bill Maher gets shouted down when he doesn’t agree with the far left view. I posted a video of Maher here yesterday, where he politely discussed mid east problems with the ladies on the view. A very polite discussion, and according to the video, they had no objections to what he had to say. Someone else posted a video meant criticize Bill Maher because the video was a rank out contest with comedian Bill Barr. It was two comedians ranking on each other. I raised the point that they agreed on a solution to the mid east problem. 

    The result of both videos - zero engagement on this forum, other than personal attacks for supporting negotiation.

     Just like far left opinions on here. Try to prevent someone from raising objections for who the Democratic Party chooses to defend. It’s happening right in front of our eyes on the forum you like to post on. Whether you choose to see it, that’s entirely up to you. That is your freedom, but please don’t interpret that an accuracy. 
    Maybe you haven’t noticed, but you only reply to comments where you feel offended. 

    Only is a strong word. Are you prepared to support the accuracy of your comment?

    Did you make any attempt to demonstrate that or is it yet another low effort attack? Did anyone else post supporting Maher? If so, I missed it in the sea of criticism of him. Someone else originally  brought up my comments were like Maher yesterday. Was that you? I agreed and believe it’s a discussion worth having.
    So maybe I offended you with my comment? I know I’ve objectively and dryly responded to you several
    times with no response. 

    Maher on his show essentially is just reactionary and pulls content from political “trends” on social media. This has turned him into more of a right wing mouth piece. That Maher is different on the view tells me I’m accurate on this take. 

    Offended when I was told “it was not meant as a compliment?” No, I actually enjoyed the comparison because it was true. I have said I stopped watching Maher for five years and only started again after Harris lost

    do you watch him? He is what he always was politically. Very much a democrat but against the far left of the party. I strongly contend that it’s the party that has changed in a much more significant manner.
    Contend it all you want, but the republican control of the narrative has pushed the notion that dems have gone too far left despite evidence to the contrary. It’s done as a scare tactic. 
    I am talking about Maher commenting the left has gone way too far left. Who exactly is Maher trying to scare? He is a hysterical comedian to his fans, and has spoken against the far left for decades.

    there are two significant topics the he has discussed that I agree with. DEI policies used in a harmful manner, and elevating a terrorist nation who is sending their residents and sympathizers here to disrupt education and to protest violently on American soil. That’s a huge move in an extreme left manner that he talks about and i agree with. 
    I didn’t say Maher is trying to scare anyone, I said he’s adopted low effort narratives from the right to use as his content. 

    And the fact you’re saying broad statements about “the left” elevating a terrorist nation, which actually is just the left raising concerns about due process and the Trump admin over-reaching with their demands about university policy, tells me your gauge about determining left vs right is too biased. 

    When I say my political party has gone too far on the Hamas issue my general concern is the support for Hamas, what that group represents, and the culture within their population that they enhance, including how they treat women and other people. 

    Regarding the detainments, I have significant concerns with some of these detainments. I really want to know what these people did. And if they’re on a student visa my understanding is They don’t get much leeway. Maybe I’m wrong, but I’m willing to watch the due process to find out
    Which political party is supporting Hamas? 

    There’s less leeway on a student visa, but yeah, the focus has been on due process this whole time. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,715
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I couldn't care less what maher says, whether he's critical or loves him. He's a blowhard. 
    I agree. I used to like him, but he has morphed into an intolerable, arrogant loud mouth.

    Always been that. I guess he is just now saying stuff you don’t like. 
    Nope. He changed his personality. He used to be funny and more affable. Over the years he has become more and more full of himself abd like a grumpy old man.




    He gets attacked here because he speaks out about liberalism gone too far on a few topics. Dissent is not permitted. Dems version of R politics.

    “”Used to be funny?” He recently had a #1 book. In a climate with tv in significant decline, hbo decided to write him another $20 million check.

    But he is “full of himself.” A “blowhard.” “An old man” Only because he refuses to bow to the extremist views trying to take over the dem party. 

    Attack those who are different from us. Whose playbook is that?



    Yes Tim S, since you asked, if I see comments I believe are false, misleadingly attacking, I will supply facts to balance the debate.

    You're whole thesis is wrong. Democrats policies aren't the main problem, it's the takeover of how people get their news. It's the lies and disinformation. People are literally being brainwashed.

    Just look at Fox News website today. Nothing about the crashing markets.

    And social media is a cesspool of lies and misinformation. Republicans are the best at exploiting that. The Democrats just can't compete.

    And Bill Maher has changed. He's always been an asshole, but now he is a total out of touch rich old prick. A number one book and succesful tv show is not evidence that he's right or the same guy. Audiences and demographics change.

    Geez, the man has been attacking the far left for almost his entire career.

    The thesis is Bill Maher gets shouted down when he doesn’t agree with the far left view. I posted a video of Maher here yesterday, where he politely discussed mid east problems with the ladies on the view. A very polite discussion, and according to the video, they had no objections to what he had to say. Someone else posted a video meant criticize Bill Maher because the video was a rank out contest with comedian Bill Barr. It was two comedians ranking on each other. I raised the point that they agreed on a solution to the mid east problem. 

    The result of both videos - zero engagement on this forum, other than personal attacks for supporting negotiation.

     Just like far left opinions on here. Try to prevent someone from raising objections for who the Democratic Party chooses to defend. It’s happening right in front of our eyes on the forum you like to post on. Whether you choose to see it, that’s entirely up to you. That is your freedom, but please don’t interpret that an accuracy. 
    Maybe you haven’t noticed, but you only reply to comments where you feel offended. 

    Only is a strong word. Are you prepared to support the accuracy of your comment?

    Did you make any attempt to demonstrate that or is it yet another low effort attack? Did anyone else post supporting Maher? If so, I missed it in the sea of criticism of him. Someone else originally  brought up my comments were like Maher yesterday. Was that you? I agreed and believe it’s a discussion worth having.
    So maybe I offended you with my comment? I know I’ve objectively and dryly responded to you several
    times with no response. 

    Maher on his show essentially is just reactionary and pulls content from political “trends” on social media. This has turned him into more of a right wing mouth piece. That Maher is different on the view tells me I’m accurate on this take. 

    Offended when I was told “it was not meant as a compliment?” No, I actually enjoyed the comparison because it was true. I have said I stopped watching Maher for five years and only started again after Harris lost

    do you watch him? He is what he always was politically. Very much a democrat but against the far left of the party. I strongly contend that it’s the party that has changed in a much more significant manner.
    Contend it all you want, but the republican control of the narrative has pushed the notion that dems have gone too far left despite evidence to the contrary. It’s done as a scare tactic. 
    I am talking about Maher commenting the left has gone way too far left. Who exactly is Maher trying to scare? He is a hysterical comedian to his fans, and has spoken against the far left for decades.

    there are two significant topics the he has discussed that I agree with. DEI policies used in a harmful manner, and elevating a terrorist nation who is sending their residents and sympathizers here to disrupt education and to protest violently on American soil. That’s a huge move in an extreme left manner that he talks about and i agree with. 
    I didn’t say Maher is trying to scare anyone, I said he’s adopted low effort narratives from the right to use as his content. 

    And the fact you’re saying broad statements about “the left” elevating a terrorist nation, which actually is just the left raising concerns about due process and the Trump admin over-reaching with their demands about university policy, tells me your gauge about determining left vs right is too biased. 

    When I say my political party has gone too far on the Hamas issue my general concern is the support for Hamas, what that group represents, and the culture within their population that they enhance, including how they treat women and other people. 

    Regarding the detainments, I have significant concerns with some of these detainments. I really want to know what these people did. And if they’re on a student visa my understanding is They don’t get much leeway. Maybe I’m wrong, but I’m willing to watch the due process to find out
    Which political party is supporting Hamas? 

    There’s less leeway on a student visa, but yeah, the focus has been on due process this whole time. 
    Exactly zero parties support hamas. Absurd. 
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 6,815
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I couldn't care less what maher says, whether he's critical or loves him. He's a blowhard. 
    I agree. I used to like him, but he has morphed into an intolerable, arrogant loud mouth.

    Always been that. I guess he is just now saying stuff you don’t like. 
    Nope. He changed his personality. He used to be funny and more affable. Over the years he has become more and more full of himself abd like a grumpy old man.




    He gets attacked here because he speaks out about liberalism gone too far on a few topics. Dissent is not permitted. Dems version of R politics.

    “”Used to be funny?” He recently had a #1 book. In a climate with tv in significant decline, hbo decided to write him another $20 million check.

    But he is “full of himself.” A “blowhard.” “An old man” Only because he refuses to bow to the extremist views trying to take over the dem party. 

    Attack those who are different from us. Whose playbook is that?



    Yes Tim S, since you asked, if I see comments I believe are false, misleadingly attacking, I will supply facts to balance the debate.

    You're whole thesis is wrong. Democrats policies aren't the main problem, it's the takeover of how people get their news. It's the lies and disinformation. People are literally being brainwashed.

    Just look at Fox News website today. Nothing about the crashing markets.

    And social media is a cesspool of lies and misinformation. Republicans are the best at exploiting that. The Democrats just can't compete.

    And Bill Maher has changed. He's always been an asshole, but now he is a total out of touch rich old prick. A number one book and succesful tv show is not evidence that he's right or the same guy. Audiences and demographics change.

    Geez, the man has been attacking the far left for almost his entire career.

    The thesis is Bill Maher gets shouted down when he doesn’t agree with the far left view. I posted a video of Maher here yesterday, where he politely discussed mid east problems with the ladies on the view. A very polite discussion, and according to the video, they had no objections to what he had to say. Someone else posted a video meant criticize Bill Maher because the video was a rank out contest with comedian Bill Barr. It was two comedians ranking on each other. I raised the point that they agreed on a solution to the mid east problem. 

    The result of both videos - zero engagement on this forum, other than personal attacks for supporting negotiation.

     Just like far left opinions on here. Try to prevent someone from raising objections for who the Democratic Party chooses to defend. It’s happening right in front of our eyes on the forum you like to post on. Whether you choose to see it, that’s entirely up to you. That is your freedom, but please don’t interpret that an accuracy. 
    Maybe you haven’t noticed, but you only reply to comments where you feel offended. 

    Only is a strong word. Are you prepared to support the accuracy of your comment?

    Did you make any attempt to demonstrate that or is it yet another low effort attack? Did anyone else post supporting Maher? If so, I missed it in the sea of criticism of him. Someone else originally  brought up my comments were like Maher yesterday. Was that you? I agreed and believe it’s a discussion worth having.
    So maybe I offended you with my comment? I know I’ve objectively and dryly responded to you several
    times with no response. 

    Maher on his show essentially is just reactionary and pulls content from political “trends” on social media. This has turned him into more of a right wing mouth piece. That Maher is different on the view tells me I’m accurate on this take. 

    Offended when I was told “it was not meant as a compliment?” No, I actually enjoyed the comparison because it was true. I have said I stopped watching Maher for five years and only started again after Harris lost

    do you watch him? He is what he always was politically. Very much a democrat but against the far left of the party. I strongly contend that it’s the party that has changed in a much more significant manner.
    Contend it all you want, but the republican control of the narrative has pushed the notion that dems have gone too far left despite evidence to the contrary. It’s done as a scare tactic. 
    I am talking about Maher commenting the left has gone way too far left. Who exactly is Maher trying to scare? He is a hysterical comedian to his fans, and has spoken against the far left for decades.

    there are two significant topics the he has discussed that I agree with. DEI policies used in a harmful manner, and elevating a terrorist nation who is sending their residents and sympathizers here to disrupt education and to protest violently on American soil. That’s a huge move in an extreme left manner that he talks about and i agree with. 
    I didn’t say Maher is trying to scare anyone, I said he’s adopted low effort narratives from the right to use as his content. 

    And the fact you’re saying broad statements about “the left” elevating a terrorist nation, which actually is just the left raising concerns about due process and the Trump admin over-reaching with their demands about university policy, tells me your gauge about determining left vs right is too biased. 

    When I say my political party has gone too far on the Hamas issue my general concern is the support for Hamas, what that group represents, and the culture within their population that they enhance, including how they treat women and other people. 

    Regarding the detainments, I have significant concerns with some of these detainments. I really want to know what these people did. And if they’re on a student visa my understanding is They don’t get much leeway. Maybe I’m wrong, but I’m willing to watch the due process to find out
    Which political party is supporting Hamas? 

    There’s less leeway on a student visa, but yeah, the focus has been on due process this whole time. 
    Exactly zero parties support hamas. Absurd. 
    But if he says it enough times, it becomes true. Similar to the great high school litter box epidemic. 
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,089
    The recent visit by Vice President JD Vance, his wife, Usha, and the national security adviser Michael Waltz to the U.S. military base in Greenland may have been met with a cold shoulder, but it did produce at least one hot item.

    The week before the Vances' arrival, Aannguaq Reimer-Johansen, a consultant at KNI, a trading conglomerate in Greenland, posted a photo on his Facebook page of what looked like a bright red MAGA hat. Only, instead of the usual "Make America Great Again" in white letters, Mr. Reimer-Johansen's cap read "Make America Go Away."

    It touched a nerve — and not just locally. The hats ended up on "The Daily Show" and "The View." Across social media, the general reaction was "I want one." Tina Brown compared it to "the French Resistance on ice," thus connecting the red cap to the "bonnets rouges" of the French Revolution.






    Why doesnt it say ”make the american government go away”

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,152


    You openly support a country whose culture and leadership treats women and gays like crap, force non conformists to live in segregated areas and murder those trying to peacefully protest. Yet support violent protests in my country and attack an actual American who was outraged to see violence on manhattan streets with classes and once in a lifetime graduation cancelled and children spit on.
    Do I openly support Iraq and their "culture", when being against your war criminal country buddy W Bush starting a war against the country and murdering thousands of civilians?

    please identify all the maga posters and what happened to them.


    Honestly, they got banned for being toxic, misogynistic, racist, or just plain aggressively trolly. They were voices posting not in good faith, and with purposeful intention to just irritate. then when the loud obnoxious ones went, the rest didn't have the balls to step up, proving that their posting was not in good faith. can't even stand up and argue for what they believe.


    One young guy that got banned made mistakes posting and was brutal, there was another, teske, was a good poster. I’ve reread their last 20 or so posts, the best guess is teske got banned for making a joke about liberals and pony tails. Their trend often was discussing with each other the success of Rs and then get brigaded with attacks like how can you vote for a rapist and a crim. From the left that appears normal. From the center, not so much. But…they are all…gone… I get mocks and ridicule like that regularly. 

    there seems to be a trend of which views lead to repercussions. I see a type of brigading on this forum, and I don’t think that’s debatable. But I will always strive to post better, and limit mistakes.

    regarding those claiming above that the left has not moved so far left. On the two main issues I ramble about a lot on here, I absolutely do not recall democrats being like this over ten years ago on any topic like these. Perhaps it coincides with “factions” like the squad taking shape in the House, a group of reps often one sided and dishonest with the public. IMO. 

     I’ve done a lot of reading and watching of non dem sources since the election, which is difficult. Because on that side of politics it’s 90% dishonest. But on these two topics, when it pertains to middle America, their POV is overwhelmingly on point.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,715
    Most of the posts that get someone banned get deleted. 

    But you knew that. 
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,715


    You openly support a country whose culture and leadership treats women and gays like crap, force non conformists to live in segregated areas and murder those trying to peacefully protest. Yet support violent protests in my country and attack an actual American who was outraged to see violence on manhattan streets with classes and once in a lifetime graduation cancelled and children spit on.
    Do I openly support Iraq and their "culture", when being against your war criminal country buddy W Bush starting a war against the country and murdering thousands of civilians?

    please identify all the maga posters and what happened to them.


    Honestly, they got banned for being toxic, misogynistic, racist, or just plain aggressively trolly. They were voices posting not in good faith, and with purposeful intention to just irritate. then when the loud obnoxious ones went, the rest didn't have the balls to step up, proving that their posting was not in good faith. can't even stand up and argue for what they believe.


    One young guy that got banned made mistakes posting and was brutal, there was another, teske, was a good poster. I’ve reread their last 20 or so posts, the best guess is teske got banned for making a joke about liberals and pony tails. Their trend often was discussing with each other the success of Rs and then get brigaded with attacks like how can you vote for a rapist and a crim. From the left that appears normal. From the center, not so much. But…they are all…gone… I get mocks and ridicule like that regularly. 

    there seems to be a trend of which views lead to repercussions. I see a type of brigading on this forum, and I don’t think that’s debatable. But I will always strive to post better, and limit mistakes.

    regarding those claiming above that the left has not moved so far left. On the two main issues I ramble about a lot on here, I absolutely do not recall democrats being like this over ten years ago on any topic like these. Perhaps it coincides with “factions” like the squad taking shape in the House, a group of reps often one sided and dishonest with the public. IMO. 

     I’ve done a lot of reading and watching of non dem sources since the election, which is difficult. Because on that side of politics it’s 90% dishonest. But on these two topics, when it pertains to middle America, their POV is overwhelmingly on point.
    Summary:

    “Most of it is bullshit, but the parts I agree with are true “
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,970
    The idea that the left has moved further left is absurd.  Based on the posting of a handful of people on a rock band's fan site?  Based on the fact that they support the rights of trans people (the only relatively newer issue today)?   Based on the fact that they are outraged that instead of a Democracy, we live in an oligarchy ruled by tyranny?
    WTF?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,715
    edited April 6
    brianlux said:
    The idea that the left has moved further left is absurd.  Based on the posting of a handful of people on a rock band's fan site?  Based on the fact that they support the rights of trans people (the only relatively newer issue today)?   Based on the fact that they are outraged that instead of a Democracy, we live in an oligarchy ruled by tyranny?
    WTF?
    people who complain about the left moving to extremes is, in reality, that person moving farther right. and that's not a slight, it's a well known fact that naturally, as we age, people become more conservative. 
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,251


    You openly support a country whose culture and leadership treats women and gays like crap, force non conformists to live in segregated areas and murder those trying to peacefully protest. Yet support violent protests in my country and attack an actual American who was outraged to see violence on manhattan streets with classes and once in a lifetime graduation cancelled and children spit on.
    Do I openly support Iraq and their "culture", when being against your war criminal country buddy W Bush starting a war against the country and murdering thousands of civilians?

    please identify all the maga posters and what happened to them.


    Honestly, they got banned for being toxic, misogynistic, racist, or just plain aggressively trolly. They were voices posting not in good faith, and with purposeful intention to just irritate. then when the loud obnoxious ones went, the rest didn't have the balls to step up, proving that their posting was not in good faith. can't even stand up and argue for what they believe.


    One young guy that got banned made mistakes posting and was brutal, there was another, teske, was a good poster. I’ve reread their last 20 or so posts, the best guess is teske got banned for making a joke about liberals and pony tails. Their trend often was discussing with each other the success of Rs and then get brigaded with attacks like how can you vote for a rapist and a crim. From the left that appears normal. From the center, not so much. But…they are all…gone… I get mocks and ridicule like that regularly. 

    there seems to be a trend of which views lead to repercussions. I see a type of brigading on this forum, and I don’t think that’s debatable. But I will always strive to post better, and limit mistakes.

    regarding those claiming above that the left has not moved so far left. On the two main issues I ramble about a lot on here, I absolutely do not recall democrats being like this over ten years ago on any topic like these. Perhaps it coincides with “factions” like the squad taking shape in the House, a group of reps often one sided and dishonest with the public. IMO. 

     I’ve done a lot of reading and watching of non dem sources since the election, which is difficult. Because on that side of politics it’s 90% dishonest. But on these two topics, when it pertains to middle America, their POV is overwhelmingly on point.
    FWIW, I didn’t claim one way or another, I just asked how you know the party has shifted to the left.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,514
    Most of the posts that get someone banned get deleted. 

    But you knew that. 
    yeah and they give you plenty of warning...anyone who is banned wanted it
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,368


    You openly support a country whose culture and leadership treats women and gays like crap, force non conformists to live in segregated areas and murder those trying to peacefully protest. Yet support violent protests in my country and attack an actual American who was outraged to see violence on manhattan streets with classes and once in a lifetime graduation cancelled and children spit on.
    Do I openly support Iraq and their "culture", when being against your war criminal country buddy W Bush starting a war against the country and murdering thousands of civilians?

    please identify all the maga posters and what happened to them.


    Honestly, they got banned for being toxic, misogynistic, racist, or just plain aggressively trolly. They were voices posting not in good faith, and with purposeful intention to just irritate. then when the loud obnoxious ones went, the rest didn't have the balls to step up, proving that their posting was not in good faith. can't even stand up and argue for what they believe.


    One young guy that got banned made mistakes posting and was brutal, there was another, teske, was a good poster. I’ve reread their last 20 or so posts, the best guess is teske got banned for making a joke about liberals and pony tails. Their trend often was discussing with each other the success of Rs and then get brigaded with attacks like how can you vote for a rapist and a crim. From the left that appears normal. From the center, not so much. But…they are all…gone… I get mocks and ridicule like that regularly. 

    there seems to be a trend of which views lead to repercussions. I see a type of brigading on this forum, and I don’t think that’s debatable. But I will always strive to post better, and limit mistakes.

    regarding those claiming above that the left has not moved so far left. On the two main issues I ramble about a lot on here, I absolutely do not recall democrats being like this over ten years ago on any topic like these. Perhaps it coincides with “factions” like the squad taking shape in the House, a group of reps often one sided and dishonest with the public. IMO. 

     I’ve done a lot of reading and watching of non dem sources since the election, which is difficult. Because on that side of politics it’s 90% dishonest. But on these two topics, when it pertains to middle America, their POV is overwhelmingly on point.
    Asking why someone voted for a rapist and a criminal is a legit question. It’s going to be in the first paragraph in high school history books in 30 years. 
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,867
    Most of the posts that get someone banned get deleted. 

    But you knew that. 
    yeah and they give you plenty of warning...anyone who is banned wanted it
    In all fairness, how much warning? Just seems unclear. I’ve seen someone get banned here multiple times just in the 5 years I’ve started reading AMT and it’s always temporary. I don’t really care it just seems vague. 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,089


    You openly support a country whose culture and leadership treats women and gays like crap, force non conformists to live in segregated areas and murder those trying to peacefully protest. Yet support violent protests in my country and attack an actual American who was outraged to see violence on manhattan streets with classes and once in a lifetime graduation cancelled and children spit on.
    Do I openly support Iraq and their "culture", when being against your war criminal country buddy W Bush starting a war against the country and murdering thousands of civilians?

    please identify all the maga posters and what happened to them.


    Honestly, they got banned for being toxic, misogynistic, racist, or just plain aggressively trolly. They were voices posting not in good faith, and with purposeful intention to just irritate. then when the loud obnoxious ones went, the rest didn't have the balls to step up, proving that their posting was not in good faith. can't even stand up and argue for what they believe.


    One young guy that got banned made mistakes posting and was brutal, there was another, teske, was a good poster. I’ve reread their last 20 or so posts, the best guess is teske got banned for making a joke about liberals and pony tails. Their trend often was discussing with each other the success of Rs and then get brigaded with attacks like how can you vote for a rapist and a crim. From the left that appears normal. From the center, not so much. But…they are all…gone… I get mocks and ridicule like that regularly. 

    there seems to be a trend of which views lead to repercussions. I see a type of brigading on this forum, and I don’t think that’s debatable. But I will always strive to post better, and limit mistakes.

    regarding those claiming above that the left has not moved so far left. On the two main issues I ramble about a lot on here, I absolutely do not recall democrats being like this over ten years ago on any topic like these. Perhaps it coincides with “factions” like the squad taking shape in the House, a group of reps often one sided and dishonest with the public. IMO. 

     I’ve done a lot of reading and watching of non dem sources since the election, which is difficult. Because on that side of politics it’s 90% dishonest. But on these two topics, when it pertains to middle America, their POV is overwhelmingly on point.
    Asking why someone voted for a rapist and a criminal is a legit question. It’s going to be in the first paragraph in high school history books in 30 years. 
    For someone in the center it's normal to vote for a serious criminal and rapist, is what I take from it.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,762


    You openly support a country whose culture and leadership treats women and gays like crap, force non conformists to live in segregated areas and murder those trying to peacefully protest. Yet support violent protests in my country and attack an actual American who was outraged to see violence on manhattan streets with classes and once in a lifetime graduation cancelled and children spit on.
    Do I openly support Iraq and their "culture", when being against your war criminal country buddy W Bush starting a war against the country and murdering thousands of civilians?

    please identify all the maga posters and what happened to them.


    Honestly, they got banned for being toxic, misogynistic, racist, or just plain aggressively trolly. They were voices posting not in good faith, and with purposeful intention to just irritate. then when the loud obnoxious ones went, the rest didn't have the balls to step up, proving that their posting was not in good faith. can't even stand up and argue for what they believe.


    One young guy that got banned made mistakes posting and was brutal, there was another, teske, was a good poster. I’ve reread their last 20 or so posts, the best guess is teske got banned for making a joke about liberals and pony tails. Their trend often was discussing with each other the success of Rs and then get brigaded with attacks like how can you vote for a rapist and a crim. From the left that appears normal. From the center, not so much. But…they are all…gone… I get mocks and ridicule like that regularly. 

    there seems to be a trend of which views lead to repercussions. I see a type of brigading on this forum, and I don’t think that’s debatable. But I will always strive to post better, and limit mistakes.

    regarding those claiming above that the left has not moved so far left. On the two main issues I ramble about a lot on here, I absolutely do not recall democrats being like this over ten years ago on any topic like these. Perhaps it coincides with “factions” like the squad taking shape in the House, a group of reps often one sided and dishonest with the public. IMO. 

     I’ve done a lot of reading and watching of non dem sources since the election, which is difficult. Because on that side of politics it’s 90% dishonest. But on these two topics, when it pertains to middle America, their POV is overwhelmingly on point.

    have you taken into consideration the rise in so-called social media,  the amplification of a few very loud voices(typically from the fringes) , some real, others bots , with posts that aim to inflame emotion? they come to be self-feeding dont they? legacy media began being lazy and "reporting" based of these kinds of social media offerings as well as plain greedy in amplifying fuckstick and. his ilk.

    seems to me that maybe the right isnt that far right as the left isnt that far left when  viewed off those platform and when asked about specific policy questions, generally are in agreement despite how they vote. Add in rhe who's policy question, then you get the partisan divide more prevalent.


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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,514
    nicknyr15 said:
    Most of the posts that get someone banned get deleted. 

    But you knew that. 
    yeah and they give you plenty of warning...anyone who is banned wanted it
    In all fairness, how much warning? Just seems unclear. I’ve seen someone get banned here multiple times just in the 5 years I’ve started reading AMT and it’s always temporary. I don’t really care it just seems vague. 
    from personal experience...I got a message that what I posted wasn't allowed and that if I did it again I would be on vacation.

    You notice that they tend to post reminders about expected conduct. They aren't kidding.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,089
    edited April 7
    I have gotten warnings like Gern. Hard to agree with them all the times, with them on occasion being very absurd and seem to come more from a personal POV than any understandable moderation POV. Most of the times (87-89%) they tend to be very straight shootery though.

    I will never understand why my thread about Pearl Jam coming out to Oasis stage-song Fuckin in the bushes in Manchester was labeled as "trolling" though. With Oasis coming out to the song is like...  one of the most iconic things in rock. And Pearl Jam should do it, if they can come out to the Rocky theme in Philadelphia. So, some weird shit happens that is never corrected. 

    But the two times or whatever I've been in "jail" (not being able to post) I don't remember it coming with any warning beforehand?  

    Don't remember ever being straight up banned though. Maybe that comes with a stern talking first. I am not of the perception a ban comes willy-nilly around here, but rather you get both one and five chances. Maybe a consequence of people actually having paid to use the board. So it's a tougher decision to actually ban. Maybe it needs to go through @Rubysdad and then he has to actually log into the Teams chat and that's a hassle for everyone involved. "No more funny GIFs people, the boss is logging in"


    How can this be considered trolling. Peak rock and roll. The Americans might not get Oasis, but that should not influence moderation

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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,152
    Most of the posts that get someone banned get deleted. 

    But you knew that. 


    You openly support a country whose culture and leadership treats women and gays like crap, force non conformists to live in segregated areas and murder those trying to peacefully protest. Yet support violent protests in my country and attack an actual American who was outraged to see violence on manhattan streets with classes and once in a lifetime graduation cancelled and children spit on.
    Do I openly support Iraq and their "culture", when being against your war criminal country buddy W Bush starting a war against the country and murdering thousands of civilians?

    please identify all the maga posters and what happened to them.


    Honestly, they got banned for being toxic, misogynistic, racist, or just plain aggressively trolly. They were voices posting not in good faith, and with purposeful intention to just irritate. then when the loud obnoxious ones went, the rest didn't have the balls to step up, proving that their posting was not in good faith. can't even stand up and argue for what they believe.


    One young guy that got banned made mistakes posting and was brutal, there was another, teske, was a good poster. I’ve reread their last 20 or so posts, the best guess is teske got banned for making a joke about liberals and pony tails. Their trend often was discussing with each other the success of Rs and then get brigaded with attacks like how can you vote for a rapist and a crim. From the left that appears normal. From the center, not so much. But…they are all…gone… I get mocks and ridicule like that regularly. 

    there seems to be a trend of which views lead to repercussions. I see a type of brigading on this forum, and I don’t think that’s debatable. But I will always strive to post better, and limit mistakes.

    regarding those claiming above that the left has not moved so far left. On the two main issues I ramble about a lot on here, I absolutely do not recall democrats being like this over ten years ago on any topic like these. Perhaps it coincides with “factions” like the squad taking shape in the House, a group of reps often one sided and dishonest with the public. IMO. 

     I’ve done a lot of reading and watching of non dem sources since the election, which is difficult. Because on that side of politics it’s 90% dishonest. But on these two topics, when it pertains to middle America, their POV is overwhelmingly on point.
    Summary:

    “Most of it is bullshit, but the parts I agree with are true “


    More low effort posts in disagreement.  There is a reason your comments display an expertise in as you say, bullshit. I was honestly asking if anyone knew.

    I did the research and looked, you didn’t. Now I need to post with proof because of all the low effort attacks from the left

     Just keep attacking  based on primal fear. With cursing, again. Unless the forum is operating improperly, I do not see any of the usual moderated modifications. These are the most recent comments, I’ve read them all, because, as I stated with honesty, I couldn’t figure out the offensive comment. 



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