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  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,737
    I'm feeling like buying concert tickets and travel/hotel is not a place I should be spending $ with this shit show
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,818
    Tim Simmons said:
    lol. The biggest dummies.




    I hope you meant trump and not that commenter. I saw this elsewhere and am impressed someone figured out the math behind the tariffs.

    To me it’s clear what trump is trying to do with the tariffs, create a back door sales tax/flat tax. This will pay for the huge income tax breaks for the wealthy coming soon.

    replacing income tax with a sales tax based on consumption would be a huge redistribution of wealth away from the blue class workers he is pretending to care about. The next step he will release the enormous tax cut for wealthy earners and the Dems could be flat footed again. 

    my passion on this topic is , “will the Dems be smart enough to figure this out and have a clear message.” Dems can not fight everything. It is difficult to get a clear message to those in the middle who have outsized power shaping our future. If Dems want to focus on the “other topics” that they seem more passionate about….that could lose this debate in the public view. It’s important shape the class warfare debate being used against them currently with skill (because they have yet to identify this point loud enough to be heard).




  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,499
    edited April 3
    Sorry. yes. To be clear, this admin are the dummies.

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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,499
    gotthebottle said:
    I'm feeling like buying concert tickets and travel/hotel is not a place I should be spending $ with this shit show
    If you've committed, commit and really have fun. but definitely evaluate spending for the near future otherwise.
  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,737
    Tim Simmons said:
    gotthebottle said:
    I'm feeling like buying concert tickets and travel/hotel is not a place I should be spending $ with this shit show
    If you've committed, commit and really have fun. but definitely evaluate spending for the near future otherwise.
    Committed but all refundable. Only going to 2 shows but it seems irresponsible as my retirement slowly trickles away and my HOA goes up, etc etc etc. I"m 60 and earning potential limited
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,324
    edited April 4
    At the start of his term by one year was somewhere in the neighborhood of Plus 18% as late as last week or the week before that it dropped to plus 11 point something.

    Year to date was in the neighborhood of + 8% at the start of his term



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  • Hawk123
    Hawk123 Posts: 2,367
    mickeyrat said:
    At the start of his term by one year was somewhere in the neighborhood of Plus 18% as late as last week or the week before that it dropped to plus 11 point something.

    Year to date was in the neighborhood of + 8% at the start of his term



    Looks like another 3% loss today too
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,324
    Hawk123 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    At the start of his term by one year was somewhere in the neighborhood of Plus 18% as late as last week or the week before that it dropped to plus 11 point something.

    Year to date was in the neighborhood of + 8% at the start of his term



    Looks like another 3% loss today too
    am late to the 401k party. losses seem heavy(they are) because I have an aggressive portfolio for my age. target date fund matures in 10 yrs.  am in 3 separate blackrock index funds as well.

    when shit is good seeing VERY good returns there.

    so gotta take the hits when they come. in a month we get our annual raise. theres an automatic 1% increase in 401k deposits pre-tax. not going to change that like yrs past. in fact may bump it by 1 more % .....

    will prob see it to my advantage come tax time next year. not hopeful there will be significant gains under this "great business man"

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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,889
    I'm thinking the fate of the markets is going to be tied to whether or not global tariff's stick, and if they don't stick how long they do stick around for.

    If they dig their heels in on this, I think it's going to cause a pretty significant recession.  On the other hand if they magically life or drastically reduce them.... they could pop back the other way.  No idea what's going to happen.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,549
    https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariffs-going-very-well-a3b863fb7879878552bda48098c31b50Trump says things are 'going very well' after worst stock market drop in years over tariffs
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,006
    Happy days are here again! What, with all this winning! Feels like it’s been four years already. Only 1,387 days left, hopefully.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,398
    Oof, things are cratering fast. Retirements disintegrating for no reason other than a con man doing his thing. I'd love to hear the backroom conversations today or maybe another journalist gets added to a Signal chat where all these sycophants say what they really think when robot mode is turned off away from the public. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,398
    Just opened one of my retirement accounts that doesn't even include the past few days impacts and I was already down 7% on the year. Thanks, Trump!
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,065
    tbergs said:
    Just opened one of my retirement accounts that doesn't even include the past few days impacts and I was already down 7% on the year. Thanks, Trump!
    I lost so much money in my retirement accounts. Luckily, I have a lot of my money in a high interest savings account. But this is a disaster.

  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,398
    Mad rush to sell off before closing bell. Is this orange Friday?
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,324
    something to smile about....


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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,324
    even better going back one month....


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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,006
    mickeyrat said:
    something to smile about....


    The plunging share price or unveiling of new ED method? Fitting either way.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,324
    edited April 4
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    something to smile about....


    The plunging share price or unveiling of new ED method? Fitting either way.

    I never look at the ads. but you do you....;)
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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,006
    mickeyrat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    something to smile about....


    The plunging share price or unveiling of new ED method? Fitting either way.

    I never look at the ads. but you do you....;)
    Didn’t click on it but I seen it and wondered if they offered seniors discounts?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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