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Shumway35Shumway35 Milton, Ontario Posts: 328
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Is there really a difference between Original Pressings and Reissue records? 

I only have the reissues and was wondering if the price for OP is worth it. 
2000 - Toronto 
2005 - St. John's 2
2006 - Toronto 1 & 2 
2009 - Toronto 
2011 - Toronto 1 
2013 - Pittsburgh,  Buffalo
2014 - Detroit 
2016 - Ottawa, Toronto 1, Wrigley 1 
2018 - Wrigley 1 & 2
2019 - Ohana Festival 
2022 - Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, Nashville
2023 - St. Paul 1 & 2
2024 - Vancouver 1 & 2, NYC 1 & 2, Fenway 1 & 2

Comments

  • jefftjefft Posts: 671
    Sounds the same, OP imo is basically for collecting if that's what your into.
  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,314
    Ten vs vitalogy are especially loud on reissues. 
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,187
    Def a difference imo, but it depends on which album.  That’s what makes vinyl interesting, there’s a ton of variables at play.
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    Price is worth it if you’re really into sound quality.  
    If not stick with the repress

    Ten OP definitely sounds better
  • corduroy10corduroy10 Posts: 199
    I find Ten, Vs, and Vitalogy sound much better in original pressings. The reissues for those records sound very "flat" with little to no dynamic range in comparison.  My original Ten is beat up pretty bad but it still sounds way better than the lifeless 2011 release with the Sepia toned jacket. I was disappointed to hear that the newer release of Ten with the original Purple/Pink jacket used the same disc/master as the 2011 Sepia release (minus the BoB remix).
    The reissues for No Code and Yield, sound pretty good, not far off from the originals IMO. I will often spin the reissues of those albums to give my originals a break.
    I've heard good things about the reissues of Binaural and Riot Act, I never did get the re-releases to compare.
    I did do a A-B test with my buddy's reissue of ST (Avocado), neither is exceptional as they are both mixed pretty loud, but the original gets a slight edge IMO. 
    Barrie '98
    Saratoga Springs, Toronto '00
    Toronto, Montreal '03
    Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto '05
    Toronto I & II, Albany, Hartford, Gorge I '06
    Camden I & II, Washington DC '08
    Toronto, Chicago I '09
    Columbus, Indianapolis, Buffalo '10
    Alpine Valley I & II, Toronto I & II, Hamilton '11
    London, Buffalo '13
    Detroit '14
    Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I & II '16
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,739
    Also, the mix on the s/t reissue is totally different than the original.


  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,447
    I have a few of the originals and think that the both VS and Vitalogy are more lively in the original vs the repress.  I find the repressings to be a bit dull. 
  • MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Def a difference imo, but it depends on which album.  That’s what makes vinyl interesting, there’s a ton of variables at play.
    This, definitely a difference. There are actually differences in different cuts of the reissues.
  • BC62528BC62528 Posts: 225
    I didn't ask the question, but I follow the boards and appreciate all those that responded - great feedback - thank you.
  • Shumway35Shumway35 Milton, Ontario Posts: 328
    Thanks for the feedback everyone. Much appreciated. 

    2000 - Toronto 
    2005 - St. John's 2
    2006 - Toronto 1 & 2 
    2009 - Toronto 
    2011 - Toronto 1 
    2013 - Pittsburgh,  Buffalo
    2014 - Detroit 
    2016 - Ottawa, Toronto 1, Wrigley 1 
    2018 - Wrigley 1 & 2
    2019 - Ohana Festival 
    2022 - Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, Nashville
    2023 - St. Paul 1 & 2
    2024 - Vancouver 1 & 2, NYC 1 & 2, Fenway 1 & 2
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,349
    Love my Vs. original press! 
    www.cluthelee.com
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,447
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    Love my Vs. original press! 
    Absolutely.  Way better. 
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,349
    CD or vinyl cover? Which is better? Wonder why the LP cover is slightly different? Was this ever explained? 
    www.cluthelee.com
  • fall by the waysidefall by the wayside Jericho, VT Posts: 757
    OG Vs. and Vitalogy are noticeably better than the reissues. If you’re into audio quality it’s worth it. 
    9/13/98, 10/4/00, 4/29/03, 6/29/03, 7/2/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 9/15/05, 9/16/05, 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 5/15/10, 9/11/11, 9/12/11, 10/19/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 10/25/13, 10/27/13, 9/26/15, 4/28/16, 4/29/16, 8/5/16, 8/7/16, 8/13/18, 9/2/18, 9/4/18, 9/26/21, 9/1/22, 9/2/22, 9/14/22, 9/18/23, 9/19/23, 9/7/24, 9/9/24, 9/12/24, 9/15/24, 9/17/24
  • Air23Air23 Roma Posts: 1,380
    what is the best reissue of Vs and Vitalogy? the 2016 EU perhaps? or the MoV?
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,349
    Air23 said:
    what is the best reissue of Vs and Vitalogy? the 2016 EU perhaps? or the MoV?
    @MedozK might be able to lend some insight into that. 
    www.cluthelee.com
  • GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 11,614
    I was at a record shop yesterday and they had a sealed original pressing of Binaural. They wanted $300 for it. I considered it for a minute - but I am happy with my reissue. Had it been an original Vs I would have gone for it.
  • DG286426DG286426 Posts: 10
    I recently got back in to vinyl, and was so disappointed with the Riot Act repress...it's dull and lifeless. Also the purple Ten is no hit sound wise, but sure looks cool on the spinner.
  • GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 11,614
    DG286426 said:
    I recently got back in to vinyl, and was so disappointed with the Riot Act repress...it's dull and lifeless. Also the purple Ten is no hit sound wise, but sure looks cool on the spinner.
    I had to laugh at my almost 4 year old post above this. I was balking at a $300 OG Binaural. However, since I made that post I have upped my vinyl collecting and have spent a small fortune on OG sealed Ten, Vs, Vitalogy, No Code, Lost Dogs, Mirror Ball, and Into the Wild. I have opened and enjoyed all but Ten and No Code. I am fine with my reissues of those. I should have bought that Binaural when I had the chance. 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,119
    corduroy10 said:
    I find Ten, Vs, and Vitalogy sound much better in original pressings. The reissues for those records sound very "flat" with little to no dynamic range in comparison.  My original Ten is beat up pretty bad but it still sounds way better than the lifeless 2011 release with the Sepia toned jacket. I was disappointed to hear that the newer release of Ten with the original Purple/Pink jacket used the same disc/master as the 2011 Sepia release (minus the BoB remix).
    The reissues for No Code and Yield, sound pretty good, not far off from the originals IMO. I will often spin the reissues of those albums to give my originals a break.
    I've heard good things about the reissues of Binaural and Riot Act, I never did get the re-releases to compare.
    I did do a A-B test with my buddy's reissue of ST (Avocado), neither is exceptional as they are both mixed pretty loud, but the original gets a slight edge IMO. 
    As disgusting as this sounds - the BoB remix has been released with the purple/pink jacket too. 

    Where are the principles I wonder?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,119
    edited March 16
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    CD or vinyl cover? Which is better? Wonder why the LP cover is slightly different? Was this ever explained? 
    Not totally unusual of a design practice
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,119
    What I don’t like about reissues is like with LO2L - the new cover looks like ass compared to the old one. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • LoujoeLoujoe Posts: 10,542
    Purple 10 sounds great to me. Hold that sucker to the light and it comes alive ;). I'm not an audiophile.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,447
    I have found the 45 Vs to best the OG.  Overall I just don't think PJ studio records sound very good, whether OG or reissue.  They feel like a wall of noise most of the time, with little nuance.  
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,739
    Agreed. As good of a job Levi has done with the 45 pressings of Yield and Vs, no album sounds phenomenal on vinyl. Maybe PJ has all their masters (but also they were signed to Sony so they may not have the final masters and Sony doesn’t releases their masters) so one day I’d really like some audiophile cuts. 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,119
    What. I have missed the 45 VS. When did that came oit
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,739
    For its 30th anniversary 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,119
    In 2023 then? I must have skipped it because I am a good boy. 

    But didn't I buy a 45rpm Yield album... why did I do that then. Can't keep track.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Sirens4Sirens4 Posts: 616
    As far as the 45 yield and vs cuts, it just allows more information on each track, so they sound more dynamic then the original. It also depends on your set up. Speakers pre amp etc. i find all the og from ten to riot act sound better then the 2016 repress. I would really love a 45 rpm of Binaural for its 25 year anniversary in May!,,,!!
    Springfield 94 hartford 96,98,06,08 xl center 2010,2013 boston 06,2010 mansfield ma 1998,2000,2003,2008
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