#47 - Musk/trump/Vance

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,382
    edited January 21
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  • mickeyrat
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    your piece of shit precedent at work. guess these poor suckers shouldn't have believed us. andcwere too poor to offer a tithe to herr leader...



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  • mickeyrat
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,141
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/21/politics/what-to-know-pardons-january-6-trump/index.html

    Enrique Tarrio was sentenced to 22 years...now pardoned.

    The article says there were still a few that have not been pardoned. I'm curious as to who they are, what they did. 

    What a pathetic leader.

    And already we have China commenting about the US withdrawal from WHO. It's just so laughable.

    I know we expected this but it's still odd to see it actually happening.
    Odd? That’s putting it mildly. It’s fucking embarrassing. How’d you like to be an Afghan who fought for ‘Murica and be betrayed? Maybe feel like strapping on a suicide vest or going on a shooting rampage somewhere? Who the fuck is going to trust ‘Murica again? Oh yea, Putin on the ritz, that’s who.
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  • Gern Blansten
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Good ol Lindsey Flimsey flip flop Faloozy and his service to his country. Makes ya proud, don’t it?
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  • mace1229
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    mickeyrat said:
    I’m all for calling this shit out when warranted, but simply raising one’s hand does not automatically make a nazi salute. We all know how a snapshot can be used to manipulate. Is there video of a prolonged heil?

    yes. slaps his left chest with his right hand and immediately snaps out. THEN turns around for the folks behind and does it again.
    judge for yourself.



    I first watched without audio and thought that's clearly what he's doing.
    Then I watched with the audio and he's saying "my heart goes out to you" as he puts his hand over his heart. In context makes a big difference. 
  • lindamarie73
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    edited January 21
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,545
    edited January 21
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I’m all for calling this shit out when warranted, but simply raising one’s hand does not automatically make a nazi salute. We all know how a snapshot can be used to manipulate. Is there video of a prolonged heil?

    yes. slaps his left chest with his right hand and immediately snaps out. THEN turns around for the folks behind and does it again.
    judge for yourself.



    I first watched without audio and thought that's clearly what he's doing.
    Then I watched with the audio and he's saying "my heart goes out to you" as he puts his hand over his heart. In context makes a big difference. 

    dude. come on.

    most people would cup the heart and extend it outward like opening a door. No one extends it out in a 45 degree angle. At best he's hes trying to be a try hard edgelord and piss some people off because he knows there won't be any consequences, at worst, well we're in for a hell of a ride...
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I’m all for calling this shit out when warranted, but simply raising one’s hand does not automatically make a nazi salute. We all know how a snapshot can be used to manipulate. Is there video of a prolonged heil?

    yes. slaps his left chest with his right hand and immediately snaps out. THEN turns around for the folks behind and does it again.
    judge for yourself.



    I first watched without audio and thought that's clearly what he's doing.
    Then I watched with the audio and he's saying "my heart goes out to you" as he puts his hand over his heart. In context makes a big difference. 
    lol...so we give him that...still one of the stupidest gestures in the history of politics
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  • Get_Right
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    Well Trump just threw a number of Executive Orders against the wall on day one. They do not have the power of law, but they set in motion a number of potential tariffs and actions. He is well counseled. Most of his actions in the past have withstood judicial scrutiny. The USTR will be busy this year. You may agree or disagree with his actions, but my objective point of view is that he knows what he is doing. 

  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Get_Right said:
    Well Trump just threw a number of Executive Orders against the wall on day one. They do not have the power of law, but they set in motion a number of potential tariffs and actions. He is well counseled. Most of his actions in the past have withstood judicial scrutiny. The USTR will be busy this year. You may agree or disagree with his actions, but my objective point of view is that he knows what he is doing. 

    Your point of view is messed up then. You can't EO away a constitutional right.
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  • Hawk123
    Hawk123 Posts: 2,367
    If it was a my heart goes out to you gesture, it was super awkward but he looked really comfortable and confident making it look like a Nazi salute so I’m sure he’s done that one many times before. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Magats are defending him saying "it's a Roman salute" like we are all idiots for not seeing what it really is.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,382
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I’m all for calling this shit out when warranted, but simply raising one’s hand does not automatically make a nazi salute. We all know how a snapshot can be used to manipulate. Is there video of a prolonged heil?

    yes. slaps his left chest with his right hand and immediately snaps out. THEN turns around for the folks behind and does it again.
    judge for yourself.



    I first watched without audio and thought that's clearly what he's doing.
    Then I watched with the audio and he's saying "my heart goes out to you" as he puts his hand over his heart. In context makes a big difference. 
    snaps the salute TWICE  crowd goes nuts in approval. THEN puts his hand over his heart a third time to make that statement..

    as you said. context.

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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,545
    Magats are defending him saying "it's a Roman salute" like we are all idiots for not seeing what it really is.
    A Roman salute isn’t much better.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,545
    If he’s not into Nazi shit, he can stop being weird at anytime. 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,545
    edited January 21
    Case in point, you can just say my heart goes out to you and wait for the applause. You don't HAVE to do weird shit like this. Or jump around or whatever. 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,382

    How Trump Plans to Seize the Power of the Purse From Congress

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    Donald Trump is entering his second term with vows to cut a vast array of government services and a radical plan to do so. Rather than relying on his party’s control of Congress to trim the budget, Trump and his advisers intend to test an obscure legal theory holding that presidents have sweeping power to withhold funding from programs they dislike.

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    His plan, known as “impoundment,” threatens to provoke a major clash over the limits of the president’s control over the budget. The Constitution gives Congress the sole authority to appropriate the federal budget, while the role of the executive branch is to dole out the money effectively. But Trump and his advisers are asserting that a president can unilaterally ignore Congress’ spending decisions and “impound” funds if he opposes them or deems them wasteful.

    Trump’s designs on the budget are part of his administration’s larger plan to consolidate as much power in the executive branch as possible. This month, he pressured the Senate to go into recess so he could appoint his cabinet without any oversight. (So far, Republicans who control the chamber have not agreed to do so.) His key advisers have spelled out plans to bring independent agencies, such as the Department of Justice, under political control.


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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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