2025 Fan to Fan Exchange and ISO/FT/FS Thread

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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Anyone posting Hollywood can you please post the link here or PM me thanks!
  • spankyMP
    spankyMP NY to NC to NH Posts: 2,019
    edited December 2024
    Done deal
    Post edited by spankyMP on
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  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,553
    ISO Hollywood 2 & Nashville 2 if anyone wants to coordinate a drop. 
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  • ally12
    ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 412
    julieooliern said:
    craigraether said:
    BOTs are in play.. some 116s for Nash came up. and were gone so quick they never showed up on the map 

    So freaking annoying
    Not even that! They are keeping them and changing them to premium pricing 
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  • EH14457
    EH14457 Orlando, FL Posts: 412
    ally12 said:
    julieooliern said:
    craigraether said:
    BOTs are in play.. some 116s for Nash came up. and were gone so quick they never showed up on the map 

    So freaking annoying
    Not even that! They are keeping them and changing them to premium pricing 
    As much as I've seen with F2F over multiple tours, I have not seen that happen yet. Did you definitely watch it happen with a specific pair?

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  • spankyMP
    spankyMP NY to NC to NH Posts: 2,019
    EH14457 said:
    ally12 said:
    julieooliern said:
    craigraether said:
    BOTs are in play.. some 116s for Nash came up. and were gone so quick they never showed up on the map 

    So freaking annoying
    Not even that! They are keeping them and changing them to premium pricing 
    As much as I've seen with F2F over multiple tours, I have not seen that happen yet. Did you definitely watch it happen with a specific pair?
    Some have said they absolutely have, some will say it has never happened. What has happened very often, is exact seats going from F2F to stubhub etc at big markups within minutes.
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  • EH14457
    EH14457 Orlando, FL Posts: 412
    spankyMP said:
    EH14457 said:
    ally12 said:
    julieooliern said:
    craigraether said:
    BOTs are in play.. some 116s for Nash came up. and were gone so quick they never showed up on the map 

    So freaking annoying
    Not even that! They are keeping them and changing them to premium pricing 
    As much as I've seen with F2F over multiple tours, I have not seen that happen yet. Did you definitely watch it happen with a specific pair?
    Some have said they absolutely have, some will say it has never happened. What has happened very often, is exact seats going from F2F to stubhub etc at big markups within minutes.
    Yeah, I've definitely seen that a bunch of times. Scalpers are running the bots to snatch tickets and instantly list them for more. And TM has no incentive to stop that so they're pretty much complicit. But that's still a different mechanic than literally converting someone's F2F listing into a PJ Premium seat via TM, which I would just be really surprised to see.

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  • ally12
    ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 412
    EH14457 said:
    ally12 said:
    julieooliern said:
    craigraether said:
    BOTs are in play.. some 116s for Nash came up. and were gone so quick they never showed up on the map 

    So freaking annoying
    Not even that! They are keeping them and changing them to premium pricing 
    As much as I've seen with F2F over multiple tours, I have not seen that happen yet. Did you definitely watch it happen with a specific pair?
    I just did for Pitts N1 section 103. I was researching that section on a different tab, when I went to TM to go buy them they were “gone” but I changed the filter to standard tickets and there it was but now it's $ 900+ 
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  • EH14457
    EH14457 Orlando, FL Posts: 412
    Interesting. Tempted to drop my ATL1 lowers and see what happens.

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  • julieooliern
    julieooliern Posts: 1,278
    ally12 said:
    julieooliern said:
    craigraether said:
    BOTs are in play.. some 116s for Nash came up. and were gone so quick they never showed up on the map 

    So freaking annoying
    Not even that! They are keeping them and changing them to premium pricing 
    😯
  • julieooliern
    julieooliern Posts: 1,278
    ally12 said:
    EH14457 said:
    ally12 said:
    julieooliern said:
    craigraether said:
    BOTs are in play.. some 116s for Nash came up. and were gone so quick they never showed up on the map 

    So freaking annoying
    Not even that! They are keeping them and changing them to premium pricing 
    As much as I've seen with F2F over multiple tours, I have not seen that happen yet. Did you definitely watch it happen with a specific pair?
    I just did for Pitts N1 section 103. I was researching that section on a different tab, when I went to TM to go buy them they were “gone” but I changed the filter to standard tickets and there it was but now it's $ 900+ 
    Yep. I just watched this happen again with lower level tickets at Pitt N1
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    https://my.ticketmaster.com/ds/vQ17f7F6v8/event/2D00617DB52254B2

    Friend just listed those for Raleigh n1 

    decent seats 
  • EH14457
    EH14457 Orlando, FL Posts: 412
    julieooliern said:
    ally12 said:
    EH14457 said:
    ally12 said:
    julieooliern said:
    craigraether said:
    BOTs are in play.. some 116s for Nash came up. and were gone so quick they never showed up on the map 

    So freaking annoying
    Not even that! They are keeping them and changing them to premium pricing 
    As much as I've seen with F2F over multiple tours, I have not seen that happen yet. Did you definitely watch it happen with a specific pair?
    I just did for Pitts N1 section 103. I was researching that section on a different tab, when I went to TM to go buy them they were “gone” but I changed the filter to standard tickets and there it was but now it's $ 900+ 
    Yep. I just watched this happen again with lower level tickets at Pitt N1
    Aside from Hollywood, I'm keeping an eye on ATL1. I've seen 2 good pairs of lower levels pop up as F2F. They're both gone now and not relisted as Premium (108 G and 110 G), so it's interesting that seems to just be happening with Pitt N1. Not cool.

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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,073
    julieooliern said:
    ally12 said:
    EH14457 said:
    ally12 said:
    julieooliern said:
    craigraether said:
    BOTs are in play.. some 116s for Nash came up. and were gone so quick they never showed up on the map 

    So freaking annoying
    Not even that! They are keeping them and changing them to premium pricing 
    As much as I've seen with F2F over multiple tours, I have not seen that happen yet. Did you definitely watch it happen with a specific pair?
    I just did for Pitts N1 section 103. I was researching that section on a different tab, when I went to TM to go buy them they were “gone” but I changed the filter to standard tickets and there it was but now it's $ 900+ 
    Yep. I just watched this happen again with lower level tickets at Pitt N1
    Are you sure it was the exact same seats and not just a premium pair already in that section. I have never seen TM change face value tickets to premiums. If they did that, people would never be able to sell their tickets.

  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited December 2024
    julieooliern said:
    ally12 said:
    EH14457 said:
    ally12 said:
    julieooliern said:
    craigraether said:
    BOTs are in play.. some 116s for Nash came up. and were gone so quick they never showed up on the map 

    So freaking annoying
    Not even that! They are keeping them and changing them to premium pricing 
    As much as I've seen with F2F over multiple tours, I have not seen that happen yet. Did you definitely watch it happen with a specific pair?
    I just did for Pitts N1 section 103. I was researching that section on a different tab, when I went to TM to go buy them they were “gone” but I changed the filter to standard tickets and there it was but now it's $ 900+ 
    Yep. I just watched this happen again with lower level tickets at Pitt N1
    Take some screen shots 

    I find it hard to believe they are dumb enough to do that especially so fast after the fan to fan sale. 

    Not saying I don’t believe but would love
    to see some proof 
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    I doubt this is happening, but does it really matter? I get that it's more evidence that TM is evil, but it's really no different than the tickets popping up on stubhub at a much higher price. 
  • EH14457
    EH14457 Orlando, FL Posts: 412
    SHZA said:
    I doubt this is happening, but does it really matter? I get that it's more evidence that TM is evil, but it's really no different than the tickets popping up on stubhub at a much higher price. 
    Fair. It's the same monster either way. The bot/StubHub approach obfuscates the intent a bit. TM "listing" them as F2F, completing a transaction, and then relisting them as Premium would almost be more respectable. 🤷‍♂️

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  • vant0037
    vant0037 Posts: 6,170
    Can you even buy legit tickets on stubhub?
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  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    vant0037 said:
    Can you even buy legit tickets on stubhub?
    Yes. 10c and TM won't do anything about it, sadly. https://www.404media.co/scalpers-are-working-with-hackers-to-liberate-non-transferable-tickets-from-ticketmasters-ecosystem/ 
  • julieooliern
    julieooliern Posts: 1,278
    PJNB said:
    julieooliern said:
    ally12 said:
    EH14457 said:
    ally12 said:
    julieooliern said:
    craigraether said:
    BOTs are in play.. some 116s for Nash came up. and were gone so quick they never showed up on the map 

    So freaking annoying
    Not even that! They are keeping them and changing them to premium pricing 
    As much as I've seen with F2F over multiple tours, I have not seen that happen yet. Did you definitely watch it happen with a specific pair?
    I just did for Pitts N1 section 103. I was researching that section on a different tab, when I went to TM to go buy them they were “gone” but I changed the filter to standard tickets and there it was but now it's $ 900+ 
    Yep. I just watched this happen again with lower level tickets at Pitt N1
    Take some screen shots 

    I find it hard to believe they are dumb enough to do that especially so fast after the fan to fan sale. 

    Not saying I don’t believe but would love
    to see some proof 
    I wish I could show proof, could think that fast while trying to secure tickets. 

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