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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,325
    edited December 2024
    No. The people who have had their lives ripped apart by coverage denial from insurers and financial ruin from bills had their lives minimized. Don’t be dense. 
    Post edited by Tim Simmons on
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,681
    Tim Simmons said:
    pjl44 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjl44 said:
    Putting aside Elizabeth Warren's baseline stupidity and overinflated sense of self, it seems insane for a divisive government official to put this out in the ether. For self preservation if nothing else.



    She's right. People will fight back as evidenced right here in front of you.
    If the Presidential election were held next week I probably would have voted for Trump. 
    This is fucking hilarious BTW.  But I get it, you’d hate to be associated with monsters who have vile positions on topics. 

    No what I'm saying is I'm being forced to associate with monsters at either turn. I would love for the standard Democrat line on this be in lockstep with Fetterman and Shapiro.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,325
    And when a dogs been beat down, don’t be surprised when it bites you one day. I’m not saying it’s correct or just or right, I’m saying don’t be surprised. 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,681
    Tim Simmons said:
    And when a dogs been beat down, don’t be surprised when it bites you one day. I’m not saying it’s correct or just or right, I’m saying don’t be surprised. 
    Does that also apply to January 6 rioters?
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,805
    pjl44 said:
    The scion of a prominent, wealthy family who graduated valedictorian of a 40k/year prep school is having his "life minimized" folks
    says who? 
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,805
    pjl44 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    And when a dogs been beat down, don’t be surprised when it bites you one day. I’m not saying it’s correct or just or right, I’m saying don’t be surprised. 
    Does that also apply to January 6 rioters?
    If Biden says he'll pardon Luigi you'll have an argument...
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,681
    Tim Simmons said:
    No. The people who have had their lives ripped apart by coverage denial from insurers and financial ruin from bills had their lives minimized. Don’t be dense. 
    Who sent the bills?
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,805
    Seems like you are arguing against a position that no one here seems to hold.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,325
    Not really analogous, but sure. Conservative media and manipulative politicians are to blame. Beating these low information people down and working them into a fervor. 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,681
    Gern Blansten said:
    Seems like you are arguing against a position that no one here seems to hold.
    I'm responding directly to individual posts
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,325
    edited December 2024
    pjl44 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    pjl44 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjl44 said:
    Putting aside Elizabeth Warren's baseline stupidity and overinflated sense of self, it seems insane for a divisive government official to put this out in the ether. For self preservation if nothing else.



    She's right. People will fight back as evidenced right here in front of you.
    If the Presidential election were held next week I probably would have voted for Trump. 
    This is fucking hilarious BTW.  But I get it, you’d hate to be associated with monsters who have vile positions on topics. 

    No what I'm saying is I'm being forced to associate with monsters at either turn. I would love for the standard Democrat line on this be in lockstep with Fetterman and Shapiro.
    It is. Democrats want to prop up the system as much as anyone. 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,681
    Tim Simmons said:
    pjl44 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    pjl44 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjl44 said:
    Putting aside Elizabeth Warren's baseline stupidity and overinflated sense of self, it seems insane for a divisive government official to put this out in the ether. For self preservation if nothing else.



    She's right. People will fight back as evidenced right here in front of you.
    If the Presidential election were held next week I probably would have voted for Trump. 
    This is fucking hilarious BTW.  But I get it, you’d hate to be associated with monsters who have vile positions on topics. 

    No what I'm saying is I'm being forced to associate with monsters at either turn. I would love for the standard Democrat line on this be in lockstep with Fetterman and Shapiro.
    It is. 
    It's not Elizabeth Warren's. Do you think that she and you are saying the same thing those guys are?
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,325
    I think she’s looking at WHY people are feeling this way. Those other 2 are not. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,805
    pjl44 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    pjl44 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    pjl44 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjl44 said:
    Putting aside Elizabeth Warren's baseline stupidity and overinflated sense of self, it seems insane for a divisive government official to put this out in the ether. For self preservation if nothing else.



    She's right. People will fight back as evidenced right here in front of you.
    If the Presidential election were held next week I probably would have voted for Trump. 
    This is fucking hilarious BTW.  But I get it, you’d hate to be associated with monsters who have vile positions on topics. 

    No what I'm saying is I'm being forced to associate with monsters at either turn. I would love for the standard Democrat line on this be in lockstep with Fetterman and Shapiro.
    It is. 
    It's not Elizabeth Warren's. Do you think that she and you are saying the same thing those guys are?
    Your own post shows that she condemned the killing...what else do you want? 
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,681
    Tim Simmons said:
    I think she’s looking at WHY people are feeling this way. Those other 2 are not. 
    So there isn't a standard position then. I'm saying I'm with those guys. I'm not interested in hearing out people who would shoot someone in the street.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,681
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjl44 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    pjl44 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    pjl44 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjl44 said:
    Putting aside Elizabeth Warren's baseline stupidity and overinflated sense of self, it seems insane for a divisive government official to put this out in the ether. For self preservation if nothing else.



    She's right. People will fight back as evidenced right here in front of you.
    If the Presidential election were held next week I probably would have voted for Trump. 
    This is fucking hilarious BTW.  But I get it, you’d hate to be associated with monsters who have vile positions on topics. 

    No what I'm saying is I'm being forced to associate with monsters at either turn. I would love for the standard Democrat line on this be in lockstep with Fetterman and Shapiro.
    It is. 
    It's not Elizabeth Warren's. Do you think that she and you are saying the same thing those guys are?
    Your own post shows that she condemned the killing...what else do you want? 
    No equivocating like Fetterman and Shapiro
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,681
    There doesn't need to be a "but" when you're "condemning" murder
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,805
    pjl44 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjl44 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    pjl44 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    pjl44 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjl44 said:
    Putting aside Elizabeth Warren's baseline stupidity and overinflated sense of self, it seems insane for a divisive government official to put this out in the ether. For self preservation if nothing else.



    She's right. People will fight back as evidenced right here in front of you.
    If the Presidential election were held next week I probably would have voted for Trump. 
    This is fucking hilarious BTW.  But I get it, you’d hate to be associated with monsters who have vile positions on topics. 

    No what I'm saying is I'm being forced to associate with monsters at either turn. I would love for the standard Democrat line on this be in lockstep with Fetterman and Shapiro.
    It is. 
    It's not Elizabeth Warren's. Do you think that she and you are saying the same thing those guys are?
    Your own post shows that she condemned the killing...what else do you want? 
    No equivocating like Fetterman and Shapiro
    Ok but if a follow up question was "do you think this killing reflects a problem with our healthcare system" they would likely say yes. You are creating an argument out of unknowns.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,325
    edited December 2024
    This is EXACTLY why democrats just lost. They don’t want connect on the issues that are affecting real people. At worst People are crushed by medical debt and insurance costs at best, they’ve had headaches trying to navigate insurance in 2024. People are apathetic to this killing because all they’ve endured is a system that prioritizes profits for shareholders over human life. Murder is wrong, but how far removed is it from saying,”sorry we’ve evaluated your situation and you don’t qualify for coverage.  Eat of luck with your medical issue”.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,681
    Tim Simmons said:
    This is EXACTLY why democrats just lost. They don’t want connect on the issues that are affecting real people. At worst People are crushed by medical debt and insurance costs at best, they’ve had headaches trying to navigate insurance in 2024. People are apathetic to this killing because all they’ve endured is a system that prioritizes profits for shareholders over human life. Murder is wrong, but how far removed is it from saying,”sorry we’ve evaluated your situation and you don’t qualify for coverage.  Eat of luck with your medical issue”.
    If you think Democrats lost because of the Shapiro/Fetterman approach and not the Warren approach I wish you luck with that strategy in 2026

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