---President Elect Musk and Convicted Felon Donald J Trump---

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  • HughFreakingDillon
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    BF25394 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president 
    President Trump
    Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
    Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian
    collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.

    He was found civilly liable for rape. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that this did not happen, or that the two dozen women who've accused him of sexual assault are all lying, or that he was literally caught on tape bragging about groping women without their consent, but you should really be better than that.

    He was convicted in the one criminal case that went to trial. The documents case is as cut-and-dried as it gets. He, again, is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the precise number of votes he needed to win a state to enable him to steal an election that he lost. All of these things happened. They are not fantasies. Pretending that they didn't is truly deranged.
    Literally no evidence, no rape kit. Just told 2 friends after watching a Law & Order episode that had the exact same story from a department store with the exact name. 2 dozen accusers and couldn’t produce any evidence to convict of rape. All that magically came forward when he decided to run for President. What are the odds? It’s a rape fantasy only the TDS radical left believe. He’s not going to jail, when you come to grips with that you will feel better.


    Bullshit spin spin it anyway you want! You voted for a rapist it’s better to just own dude you’ll feel better! I don’t give a fuck if he ever goes to jail what’s in the record books can’t be erased not even if he wanted to use a sharpie to write I’m not a rapist 😃 
    I don’t vote for rapist! 
    Show some evidence on who he raped? You voted for an unqualified DEI loser anointed by Goege Clooney.  #rapefantasy
    Don’t have to it’s all in the court transcript for ever don’t get twisted like I said just own it you voted for a rapist once you do that you’ll feel better! You can look over at your wife or daughter and be proud that you voted for a sexual predator! Enjoy the golden age when women had no voice if a woman got assaulted or raped back in the golden 50’s or 60’s or 70’s they were and still looked at by cops as the ones that are culpable for it! Even today cops look at rape victims as questionable! I know this because my wife is a forensic nurse that collects evidence from rape victims and she deals with cops and detectives processing rape kits.. 
    So no DNA evidence or convictions? Cool. In your fantasies, rapists don’t serve jail time? And can win Presidential elections by a landslide? You should start a new Series ….. maybe A Moving Train SVU. You really have a great imagination and it would make for some really good TV episodes. Maybe contact Dick Wolf the producer and pitch some of these.
    You know he fucking did it. The Access Hollywood tape spells out very succinctly what his method is.

    You chose to ignore all of that and voted for the piece of shit. Who cares...you got what you wanted.
    I’ve said it a few times on here, but Democrats need to realize that character is not a voter’s top issue anymore, and on the Trump side it doesn’t even make the list. 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,589
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    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    BF25394 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president 
    President Trump
    Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
    Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian
    collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.

    He was found civilly liable for rape. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that this did not happen, or that the two dozen women who've accused him of sexual assault are all lying, or that he was literally caught on tape bragging about groping women without their consent, but you should really be better than that.

    He was convicted in the one criminal case that went to trial. The documents case is as cut-and-dried as it gets. He, again, is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the precise number of votes he needed to win a state to enable him to steal an election that he lost. All of these things happened. They are not fantasies. Pretending that they didn't is truly deranged.
    Literally no evidence, no rape kit. Just told 2 friends after watching a Law & Order episode that had the exact same story from a department store with the exact name. 2 dozen accusers and couldn’t produce any evidence to convict of rape. All that magically came forward when he decided to run for President. What are the odds? It’s a rape fantasy only the TDS radical left believe. He’s not going to jail, when you come to grips with that you will feel better.


    Bullshit spin spin it anyway you want! You voted for a rapist it’s better to just own dude you’ll feel better! I don’t give a fuck if he ever goes to jail what’s in the record books can’t be erased not even if he wanted to use a sharpie to write I’m not a rapist 😃 
    I don’t vote for rapist! 
    Show some evidence on who he raped? You voted for an unqualified DEI loser anointed by Goege Clooney.  #rapefantasy
    Don’t have to it’s all in the court transcript for ever don’t get twisted like I said just own it you voted for a rapist once you do that you’ll feel better! You can look over at your wife or daughter and be proud that you voted for a sexual predator! Enjoy the golden age when women had no voice if a woman got assaulted or raped back in the golden 50’s or 60’s or 70’s they were and still looked at by cops as the ones that are culpable for it! Even today cops look at rape victims as questionable! I know this because my wife is a forensic nurse that collects evidence from rape victims and she deals with cops and detectives processing rape kits.. 
    So no DNA evidence or convictions? Cool. In your fantasies, rapists don’t serve jail time? And can win Presidential elections by a landslide? You should start a new Series ….. maybe A Moving Train SVU. You really have a great imagination and it would make for some really good TV episodes. Maybe contact Dick Wolf the producer and pitch some of these.
    You know he fucking did it. The Access Hollywood tape spells out very succinctly what his method is.

    You chose to ignore all of that and voted for the piece of shit. Who cares...you got what you wanted.
    That’s why most rape victims don’t file reports or want to get police involved! Not only are they victims of a horrible assault but when the detectives or uniformed cops get the cases! Most of the time they are not compassionate or even take them seriously, my wife sees this all the time 1st hand when she interviews victims most just want to forget about it and not file charges! 
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,886
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    mickeyrat said:
    rape kit? for forceable insertion of fingers against her will? seriously?
    Maybe it could have detected the presence of Big Mac sauce?
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
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    BF25394 said:
    It really is bizarre. For the eighth time in nine presidential elections since 1988, the Republican candidate failed to obtain 50 percent of the popular vote. Where are all the thinkpieces asking why Republicans have so much difficulty appealing to a majority of the electorate?

    The fact of the matter is that we have a closely divided electorate. Obama's 53-46 win is probably about as much of a landslide as is possible under current conditions. Republicans are going to end up with 49.8 or 49.9 percent of the 2024 presidential vote and about 50.5 percent of the aggregate House vote. That's enough to win, but they would be wise to pay attention to the repeated lessons of the 21st century. Overread your "mandate" and the voters will turn on you in the next election, as they did on Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018 and Biden in 2022 (yes, Republicans won back the House majority in 2022 despite the common mischaracterization that the Democrats "won" in 2022-- they defeated expectations, but expectations are made up; they lost what matters, a majority of House seats). 

    If we had a parliamentary system, Republicans and Democrats would each probably get around 45-46 percent of the vote and one of them would have to cobble together a governing coalition with minor parties. Under our dumb system, you don't even need to get 50 percent of the aggregate House vote to be the majority party. And the Senate is even dumber. Two senators for Wyoming's 600,000 people and two senators for California's 40 million. Two senators for Vermont's 750,000 people and two senators for Texas' 30 million.)
    I remember in the 1990s within the 10 total minutes I spent listening to Rush Limbaugh, he ripped Clinton for not having 50% of the popular vote (which was obviously driven by Ross Perot, when no such third-party presence had been there for the Reagan/Bush wins). I suspect he stopped talking about that in 2000.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,178
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    OnWis97 said:
    BF25394 said:
    It really is bizarre. For the eighth time in nine presidential elections since 1988, the Republican candidate failed to obtain 50 percent of the popular vote. Where are all the thinkpieces asking why Republicans have so much difficulty appealing to a majority of the electorate?

    The fact of the matter is that we have a closely divided electorate. Obama's 53-46 win is probably about as much of a landslide as is possible under current conditions. Republicans are going to end up with 49.8 or 49.9 percent of the 2024 presidential vote and about 50.5 percent of the aggregate House vote. That's enough to win, but they would be wise to pay attention to the repeated lessons of the 21st century. Overread your "mandate" and the voters will turn on you in the next election, as they did on Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018 and Biden in 2022 (yes, Republicans won back the House majority in 2022 despite the common mischaracterization that the Democrats "won" in 2022-- they defeated expectations, but expectations are made up; they lost what matters, a majority of House seats). 

    If we had a parliamentary system, Republicans and Democrats would each probably get around 45-46 percent of the vote and one of them would have to cobble together a governing coalition with minor parties. Under our dumb system, you don't even need to get 50 percent of the aggregate House vote to be the majority party. And the Senate is even dumber. Two senators for Wyoming's 600,000 people and two senators for California's 40 million. Two senators for Vermont's 750,000 people and two senators for Texas' 30 million.)
    I remember in the 1990s within the 10 total minutes I spent listening to Rush Limbaugh, he ripped Clinton for not having 50% of the popular vote (which was obviously driven by Ross Perot, when no such third-party presence had been there for the Reagan/Bush wins). I suspect he stopped talking about that in 2000.
    I was a dittohead and bought two of his books. It is interesting to think that he will be remembered for nothing. Yet trump gave him the medal of freedom.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
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    OnWis97 said:
    BF25394 said:
    It really is bizarre. For the eighth time in nine presidential elections since 1988, the Republican candidate failed to obtain 50 percent of the popular vote. Where are all the thinkpieces asking why Republicans have so much difficulty appealing to a majority of the electorate?

    The fact of the matter is that we have a closely divided electorate. Obama's 53-46 win is probably about as much of a landslide as is possible under current conditions. Republicans are going to end up with 49.8 or 49.9 percent of the 2024 presidential vote and about 50.5 percent of the aggregate House vote. That's enough to win, but they would be wise to pay attention to the repeated lessons of the 21st century. Overread your "mandate" and the voters will turn on you in the next election, as they did on Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018 and Biden in 2022 (yes, Republicans won back the House majority in 2022 despite the common mischaracterization that the Democrats "won" in 2022-- they defeated expectations, but expectations are made up; they lost what matters, a majority of House seats). 

    If we had a parliamentary system, Republicans and Democrats would each probably get around 45-46 percent of the vote and one of them would have to cobble together a governing coalition with minor parties. Under our dumb system, you don't even need to get 50 percent of the aggregate House vote to be the majority party. And the Senate is even dumber. Two senators for Wyoming's 600,000 people and two senators for California's 40 million. Two senators for Vermont's 750,000 people and two senators for Texas' 30 million.)
    I remember in the 1990s within the 10 total minutes I spent listening to Rush Limbaugh, he ripped Clinton for not having 50% of the popular vote (which was obviously driven by Ross Perot, when no such third-party presence had been there for the Reagan/Bush wins). I suspect he stopped talking about that in 2000.
    I was a dittohead and bought two of his books. It is interesting to think that he will be remembered for nothing. Yet trump gave him the medal of freedom.
    I neither know nor care what he'll be remembered for. That said, I kind of consider him the grandfather of our current political climate. From the little that I heard (and I guess you'd know more than I) his entire schtick was whining about and villainizing the left/Dems/libs. And now that's pretty much the entire "news" that a huge chunk of the country gets.
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  • The Juggler
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,178
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    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    BF25394 said:
    It really is bizarre. For the eighth time in nine presidential elections since 1988, the Republican candidate failed to obtain 50 percent of the popular vote. Where are all the thinkpieces asking why Republicans have so much difficulty appealing to a majority of the electorate?

    The fact of the matter is that we have a closely divided electorate. Obama's 53-46 win is probably about as much of a landslide as is possible under current conditions. Republicans are going to end up with 49.8 or 49.9 percent of the 2024 presidential vote and about 50.5 percent of the aggregate House vote. That's enough to win, but they would be wise to pay attention to the repeated lessons of the 21st century. Overread your "mandate" and the voters will turn on you in the next election, as they did on Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018 and Biden in 2022 (yes, Republicans won back the House majority in 2022 despite the common mischaracterization that the Democrats "won" in 2022-- they defeated expectations, but expectations are made up; they lost what matters, a majority of House seats). 

    If we had a parliamentary system, Republicans and Democrats would each probably get around 45-46 percent of the vote and one of them would have to cobble together a governing coalition with minor parties. Under our dumb system, you don't even need to get 50 percent of the aggregate House vote to be the majority party. And the Senate is even dumber. Two senators for Wyoming's 600,000 people and two senators for California's 40 million. Two senators for Vermont's 750,000 people and two senators for Texas' 30 million.)
    I remember in the 1990s within the 10 total minutes I spent listening to Rush Limbaugh, he ripped Clinton for not having 50% of the popular vote (which was obviously driven by Ross Perot, when no such third-party presence had been there for the Reagan/Bush wins). I suspect he stopped talking about that in 2000.
    I was a dittohead and bought two of his books. It is interesting to think that he will be remembered for nothing. Yet trump gave him the medal of freedom.
    I neither know nor care what he'll be remembered for. That said, I kind of consider him the grandfather of our current political climate. From the little that I heard (and I guess you'd know more than I) his entire schtick was whining about and villainizing the left/Dems/libs. And now that's pretty much the entire "news" that a huge chunk of the country gets.
    Yeah that was it. He just had a really good radio presence. He was funny and not really evil like he became to be later in life. The schtick had to get more aggressive to keep people interested. He gave birth to the Mark Levin style of idiocy.


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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
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    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    BF25394 said:
    It really is bizarre. For the eighth time in nine presidential elections since 1988, the Republican candidate failed to obtain 50 percent of the popular vote. Where are all the thinkpieces asking why Republicans have so much difficulty appealing to a majority of the electorate?

    The fact of the matter is that we have a closely divided electorate. Obama's 53-46 win is probably about as much of a landslide as is possible under current conditions. Republicans are going to end up with 49.8 or 49.9 percent of the 2024 presidential vote and about 50.5 percent of the aggregate House vote. That's enough to win, but they would be wise to pay attention to the repeated lessons of the 21st century. Overread your "mandate" and the voters will turn on you in the next election, as they did on Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018 and Biden in 2022 (yes, Republicans won back the House majority in 2022 despite the common mischaracterization that the Democrats "won" in 2022-- they defeated expectations, but expectations are made up; they lost what matters, a majority of House seats). 

    If we had a parliamentary system, Republicans and Democrats would each probably get around 45-46 percent of the vote and one of them would have to cobble together a governing coalition with minor parties. Under our dumb system, you don't even need to get 50 percent of the aggregate House vote to be the majority party. And the Senate is even dumber. Two senators for Wyoming's 600,000 people and two senators for California's 40 million. Two senators for Vermont's 750,000 people and two senators for Texas' 30 million.)
    I remember in the 1990s within the 10 total minutes I spent listening to Rush Limbaugh, he ripped Clinton for not having 50% of the popular vote (which was obviously driven by Ross Perot, when no such third-party presence had been there for the Reagan/Bush wins). I suspect he stopped talking about that in 2000.
    I was a dittohead and bought two of his books. It is interesting to think that he will be remembered for nothing. Yet trump gave him the medal of freedom.
    I neither know nor care what he'll be remembered for. That said, I kind of consider him the grandfather of our current political climate. From the little that I heard (and I guess you'd know more than I) his entire schtick was whining about and villainizing the left/Dems/libs. And now that's pretty much the entire "news" that a huge chunk of the country gets.
    Yeah that was it. He just had a really good radio presence. He was funny and not really evil like he became to be later in life. The schtick had to get more aggressive to keep people interested. He gave birth to the Mark Levin style of idiocy.


    Ha....Gern, as a young teenager, I used to watch Limbaugh's show back then too. I think my parents got me his book as a xmas gift. 

    BFS is right---there is no mandate by Trump. The guy has run three times and has never gotten more than 50% of the vote. There is no reason to build a cabinet made up of the most partisan unqualified dopes imaginable...yet here we are. 



    I am curious what the 49.9% will say in the near future when they realize the price of their bacon continued to rise or that we wound in a massive recession. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,178
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    2023
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    BF25394 said:
    It really is bizarre. For the eighth time in nine presidential elections since 1988, the Republican candidate failed to obtain 50 percent of the popular vote. Where are all the thinkpieces asking why Republicans have so much difficulty appealing to a majority of the electorate?

    The fact of the matter is that we have a closely divided electorate. Obama's 53-46 win is probably about as much of a landslide as is possible under current conditions. Republicans are going to end up with 49.8 or 49.9 percent of the 2024 presidential vote and about 50.5 percent of the aggregate House vote. That's enough to win, but they would be wise to pay attention to the repeated lessons of the 21st century. Overread your "mandate" and the voters will turn on you in the next election, as they did on Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018 and Biden in 2022 (yes, Republicans won back the House majority in 2022 despite the common mischaracterization that the Democrats "won" in 2022-- they defeated expectations, but expectations are made up; they lost what matters, a majority of House seats). 

    If we had a parliamentary system, Republicans and Democrats would each probably get around 45-46 percent of the vote and one of them would have to cobble together a governing coalition with minor parties. Under our dumb system, you don't even need to get 50 percent of the aggregate House vote to be the majority party. And the Senate is even dumber. Two senators for Wyoming's 600,000 people and two senators for California's 40 million. Two senators for Vermont's 750,000 people and two senators for Texas' 30 million.)
    I remember in the 1990s within the 10 total minutes I spent listening to Rush Limbaugh, he ripped Clinton for not having 50% of the popular vote (which was obviously driven by Ross Perot, when no such third-party presence had been there for the Reagan/Bush wins). I suspect he stopped talking about that in 2000.
    I was a dittohead and bought two of his books. It is interesting to think that he will be remembered for nothing. Yet trump gave him the medal of freedom.
    I neither know nor care what he'll be remembered for. That said, I kind of consider him the grandfather of our current political climate. From the little that I heard (and I guess you'd know more than I) his entire schtick was whining about and villainizing the left/Dems/libs. And now that's pretty much the entire "news" that a huge chunk of the country gets.
    Yeah that was it. He just had a really good radio presence. He was funny and not really evil like he became to be later in life. The schtick had to get more aggressive to keep people interested. He gave birth to the Mark Levin style of idiocy.


    Ha....Gern, as a young teenager, I used to watch Limbaugh's show back then too. I think my parents got me his book as a xmas gift. 

    BFS is right---there is no mandate by Trump. The guy has run three times and has never gotten more than 50% of the vote. There is no reason to build a cabinet made up of the most partisan unqualified dopes imaginable...yet here we are. 



    I am curious what the 49.9% will say in the near future when they realize the price of their bacon continued to rise or that we wound in a massive recession. 
    I also have an autographed copy of Under Fire, Oliver North's book....lol

    but I was 23 or so back in 1991...I'm an old fart
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    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
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    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    BF25394 said:
    It really is bizarre. For the eighth time in nine presidential elections since 1988, the Republican candidate failed to obtain 50 percent of the popular vote. Where are all the thinkpieces asking why Republicans have so much difficulty appealing to a majority of the electorate?

    The fact of the matter is that we have a closely divided electorate. Obama's 53-46 win is probably about as much of a landslide as is possible under current conditions. Republicans are going to end up with 49.8 or 49.9 percent of the 2024 presidential vote and about 50.5 percent of the aggregate House vote. That's enough to win, but they would be wise to pay attention to the repeated lessons of the 21st century. Overread your "mandate" and the voters will turn on you in the next election, as they did on Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018 and Biden in 2022 (yes, Republicans won back the House majority in 2022 despite the common mischaracterization that the Democrats "won" in 2022-- they defeated expectations, but expectations are made up; they lost what matters, a majority of House seats). 

    If we had a parliamentary system, Republicans and Democrats would each probably get around 45-46 percent of the vote and one of them would have to cobble together a governing coalition with minor parties. Under our dumb system, you don't even need to get 50 percent of the aggregate House vote to be the majority party. And the Senate is even dumber. Two senators for Wyoming's 600,000 people and two senators for California's 40 million. Two senators for Vermont's 750,000 people and two senators for Texas' 30 million.)
    I remember in the 1990s within the 10 total minutes I spent listening to Rush Limbaugh, he ripped Clinton for not having 50% of the popular vote (which was obviously driven by Ross Perot, when no such third-party presence had been there for the Reagan/Bush wins). I suspect he stopped talking about that in 2000.
    I was a dittohead and bought two of his books. It is interesting to think that he will be remembered for nothing. Yet trump gave him the medal of freedom.
    I neither know nor care what he'll be remembered for. That said, I kind of consider him the grandfather of our current political climate. From the little that I heard (and I guess you'd know more than I) his entire schtick was whining about and villainizing the left/Dems/libs. And now that's pretty much the entire "news" that a huge chunk of the country gets.
    Yeah that was it. He just had a really good radio presence. He was funny and not really evil like he became to be later in life. The schtick had to get more aggressive to keep people interested. He gave birth to the Mark Levin style of idiocy.


    Ha....Gern, as a young teenager, I used to watch Limbaugh's show back then too. I think my parents got me his book as a xmas gift. 

    BFS is right---there is no mandate by Trump. The guy has run three times and has never gotten more than 50% of the vote. There is no reason to build a cabinet made up of the most partisan unqualified dopes imaginable...yet here we are. 



    I am curious what the 49.9% will say in the near future when they realize the price of their bacon continued to rise or that we wound in a massive recession. 
    his idiot supporters will believe whatever he says. so a mandate it is!!
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  • Gern Blansten
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    2023


    Name this band...
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,321
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    BF25394 said:
    It really is bizarre. For the eighth time in nine presidential elections since 1988, the Republican candidate failed to obtain 50 percent of the popular vote. Where are all the thinkpieces asking why Republicans have so much difficulty appealing to a majority of the electorate?

    The fact of the matter is that we have a closely divided electorate. Obama's 53-46 win is probably about as much of a landslide as is possible under current conditions. Republicans are going to end up with 49.8 or 49.9 percent of the 2024 presidential vote and about 50.5 percent of the aggregate House vote. That's enough to win, but they would be wise to pay attention to the repeated lessons of the 21st century. Overread your "mandate" and the voters will turn on you in the next election, as they did on Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018 and Biden in 2022 (yes, Republicans won back the House majority in 2022 despite the common mischaracterization that the Democrats "won" in 2022-- they defeated expectations, but expectations are made up; they lost what matters, a majority of House seats). 

    If we had a parliamentary system, Republicans and Democrats would each probably get around 45-46 percent of the vote and one of them would have to cobble together a governing coalition with minor parties. Under our dumb system, you don't even need to get 50 percent of the aggregate House vote to be the majority party. And the Senate is even dumber. Two senators for Wyoming's 600,000 people and two senators for California's 40 million. Two senators for Vermont's 750,000 people and two senators for Texas' 30 million.)
    I remember in the 1990s within the 10 total minutes I spent listening to Rush Limbaugh, he ripped Clinton for not having 50% of the popular vote (which was obviously driven by Ross Perot, when no such third-party presence had been there for the Reagan/Bush wins). I suspect he stopped talking about that in 2000.
    I was a dittohead and bought two of his books. It is interesting to think that he will be remembered for nothing. Yet trump gave him the medal of freedom.
    I neither know nor care what he'll be remembered for. That said, I kind of consider him the grandfather of our current political climate. From the little that I heard (and I guess you'd know more than I) his entire schtick was whining about and villainizing the left/Dems/libs. And now that's pretty much the entire "news" that a huge chunk of the country gets.
    Yeah that was it. He just had a really good radio presence. He was funny and not really evil like he became to be later in life. The schtick had to get more aggressive to keep people interested. He gave birth to the Mark Levin style of idiocy.


    Ha....Gern, as a young teenager, I used to watch Limbaugh's show back then too. I think my parents got me his book as a xmas gift. 

    BFS is right---there is no mandate by Trump. The guy has run three times and has never gotten more than 50% of the vote. There is no reason to build a cabinet made up of the most partisan unqualified dopes imaginable...yet here we are. 



    I am curious what the 49.9% will say in the near future when they realize the price of their bacon continued to rise or that we wound in a massive recession. 
    It will be the fault of Biden and Harris. Just ask anyone. His perfect policies surely could never be at fault. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    2024


    Name this band...
    Flashing Pumpkins
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,773
    edited November 2024
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    BF25394 said:
    It really is bizarre. For the eighth time in nine presidential elections since 1988, the Republican candidate failed to obtain 50 percent of the popular vote. Where are all the thinkpieces asking why Republicans have so much difficulty appealing to a majority of the electorate?

    The fact of the matter is that we have a closely divided electorate. Obama's 53-46 win is probably about as much of a landslide as is possible under current conditions. Republicans are going to end up with 49.8 or 49.9 percent of the 2024 presidential vote and about 50.5 percent of the aggregate House vote. That's enough to win, but they would be wise to pay attention to the repeated lessons of the 21st century. Overread your "mandate" and the voters will turn on you in the next election, as they did on Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018 and Biden in 2022 (yes, Republicans won back the House majority in 2022 despite the common mischaracterization that the Democrats "won" in 2022-- they defeated expectations, but expectations are made up; they lost what matters, a majority of House seats). 

    If we had a parliamentary system, Republicans and Democrats would each probably get around 45-46 percent of the vote and one of them would have to cobble together a governing coalition with minor parties. Under our dumb system, you don't even need to get 50 percent of the aggregate House vote to be the majority party. And the Senate is even dumber. Two senators for Wyoming's 600,000 people and two senators for California's 40 million. Two senators for Vermont's 750,000 people and two senators for Texas' 30 million.)
    I remember in the 1990s within the 10 total minutes I spent listening to Rush Limbaugh, he ripped Clinton for not having 50% of the popular vote (which was obviously driven by Ross Perot, when no such third-party presence had been there for the Reagan/Bush wins). I suspect he stopped talking about that in 2000.
    I was a dittohead and bought two of his books. It is interesting to think that he will be remembered for nothing. Yet trump gave him the medal of freedom.
    I neither know nor care what he'll be remembered for. That said, I kind of consider him the grandfather of our current political climate. From the little that I heard (and I guess you'd know more than I) his entire schtick was whining about and villainizing the left/Dems/libs. And now that's pretty much the entire "news" that a huge chunk of the country gets.
    Yeah that was it. He just had a really good radio presence. He was funny and not really evil like he became to be later in life. The schtick had to get more aggressive to keep people interested. He gave birth to the Mark Levin style of idiocy.


    Ha....Gern, as a young teenager, I used to watch Limbaugh's show back then too. I think my parents got me his book as a xmas gift. 

    BFS is right---there is no mandate by Trump. The guy has run three times and has never gotten more than 50% of the vote. There is no reason to build a cabinet made up of the most partisan unqualified dopes imaginable...yet here we are. 



    I am curious what the 49.9% will say in the near future when they realize the price of their bacon continued to rise or that we wound in a massive recession. 
    his idiot supporters will believe whatever he says. so a mandate it is!!
    Correct... they'll blame who they're told to blame, and won't question it.

     JeBurkhardt said:
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    BF25394 said:
    It really is bizarre. For the eighth time in nine presidential elections since 1988, the Republican candidate failed to obtain 50 percent of the popular vote. Where are all the thinkpieces asking why Republicans have so much difficulty appealing to a majority of the electorate?

    The fact of the matter is that we have a closely divided electorate. Obama's 53-46 win is probably about as much of a landslide as is possible under current conditions. Republicans are going to end up with 49.8 or 49.9 percent of the 2024 presidential vote and about 50.5 percent of the aggregate House vote. That's enough to win, but they would be wise to pay attention to the repeated lessons of the 21st century. Overread your "mandate" and the voters will turn on you in the next election, as they did on Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018 and Biden in 2022 (yes, Republicans won back the House majority in 2022 despite the common mischaracterization that the Democrats "won" in 2022-- they defeated expectations, but expectations are made up; they lost what matters, a majority of House seats). 

    If we had a parliamentary system, Republicans and Democrats would each probably get around 45-46 percent of the vote and one of them would have to cobble together a governing coalition with minor parties. Under our dumb system, you don't even need to get 50 percent of the aggregate House vote to be the majority party. And the Senate is even dumber. Two senators for Wyoming's 600,000 people and two senators for California's 40 million. Two senators for Vermont's 750,000 people and two senators for Texas' 30 million.)
    I remember in the 1990s within the 10 total minutes I spent listening to Rush Limbaugh, he ripped Clinton for not having 50% of the popular vote (which was obviously driven by Ross Perot, when no such third-party presence had been there for the Reagan/Bush wins). I suspect he stopped talking about that in 2000.
    I was a dittohead and bought two of his books. It is interesting to think that he will be remembered for nothing. Yet trump gave him the medal of freedom.
    I neither know nor care what he'll be remembered for. That said, I kind of consider him the grandfather of our current political climate. From the little that I heard (and I guess you'd know more than I) his entire schtick was whining about and villainizing the left/Dems/libs. And now that's pretty much the entire "news" that a huge chunk of the country gets.
    Yeah that was it. He just had a really good radio presence. He was funny and not really evil like he became to be later in life. The schtick had to get more aggressive to keep people interested. He gave birth to the Mark Levin style of idiocy.


    Ha....Gern, as a young teenager, I used to watch Limbaugh's show back then too. I think my parents got me his book as a xmas gift. 

    BFS is right---there is no mandate by Trump. The guy has run three times and has never gotten more than 50% of the vote. There is no reason to build a cabinet made up of the most partisan unqualified dopes imaginable...yet here we are. 



    I am curious what the 49.9% will say in the near future when they realize the price of their bacon continued to rise or that we wound in a massive recession. 
    It will be the fault of Biden and Harris. Just ask anyone. His perfect policies surely could never be at fault. 
    1000% - they will never realize they've been scammed. 

    They'll just continue to get scammed. 
  • The Juggler
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,402
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    BF25394 said:
    It really is bizarre. For the eighth time in nine presidential elections since 1988, the Republican candidate failed to obtain 50 percent of the popular vote. Where are all the thinkpieces asking why Republicans have so much difficulty appealing to a majority of the electorate?

    The fact of the matter is that we have a closely divided electorate. Obama's 53-46 win is probably about as much of a landslide as is possible under current conditions. Republicans are going to end up with 49.8 or 49.9 percent of the 2024 presidential vote and about 50.5 percent of the aggregate House vote. That's enough to win, but they would be wise to pay attention to the repeated lessons of the 21st century. Overread your "mandate" and the voters will turn on you in the next election, as they did on Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018 and Biden in 2022 (yes, Republicans won back the House majority in 2022 despite the common mischaracterization that the Democrats "won" in 2022-- they defeated expectations, but expectations are made up; they lost what matters, a majority of House seats). 

    If we had a parliamentary system, Republicans and Democrats would each probably get around 45-46 percent of the vote and one of them would have to cobble together a governing coalition with minor parties. Under our dumb system, you don't even need to get 50 percent of the aggregate House vote to be the majority party. And the Senate is even dumber. Two senators for Wyoming's 600,000 people and two senators for California's 40 million. Two senators for Vermont's 750,000 people and two senators for Texas' 30 million.)
    I remember in the 1990s within the 10 total minutes I spent listening to Rush Limbaugh, he ripped Clinton for not having 50% of the popular vote (which was obviously driven by Ross Perot, when no such third-party presence had been there for the Reagan/Bush wins). I suspect he stopped talking about that in 2000.
    I was a dittohead and bought two of his books. It is interesting to think that he will be remembered for nothing. Yet trump gave him the medal of freedom.
    I neither know nor care what he'll be remembered for. That said, I kind of consider him the grandfather of our current political climate. From the little that I heard (and I guess you'd know more than I) his entire schtick was whining about and villainizing the left/Dems/libs. And now that's pretty much the entire "news" that a huge chunk of the country gets.
    Yeah that was it. He just had a really good radio presence. He was funny and not really evil like he became to be later in life. The schtick had to get more aggressive to keep people interested. He gave birth to the Mark Levin style of idiocy.


    Ha....Gern, as a young teenager, I used to watch Limbaugh's show back then too. I think my parents got me his book as a xmas gift. 

    BFS is right---there is no mandate by Trump. The guy has run three times and has never gotten more than 50% of the vote. There is no reason to build a cabinet made up of the most partisan unqualified dopes imaginable...yet here we are. 



    I am curious what the 49.9% will say in the near future when they realize the price of their bacon continued to rise or that we wound in a massive recession. 
    To you last sentence, I would say that they clearly don't care and won't care. There doesn't seem to be an actual interest in whether any of the stuff Trump said will actually happen. Many only seem to care that their person won. They don't care about his character, the character of his cabinet or if any of them will improve their lives. They like what he said he'd do and approve of these non-traditional picks because these are the people Trump needs around him to carry out some of his extreme agenda items. In 4 years, they'll just vote for which ever person yells louder about exaggerated issues. It will just be harder for the incumbent party to separate themselves from the mess he's going to create. I expect that the dems will sweep back all branches in 2028 as long as they go through a rigorous primary to nominate a strong candidate and SCOTUS doesn't uphold some new exception that fucks up things. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • brianlux
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    Fools Rush In
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

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