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Ha! When he yelled that, I busted out laughing. He was cooked from that moment on.gimmesometruth27 said:well the guy owns truth social, the biggest cesspool of bullshit on the entire internet. its not a surprise he saw it and fell for it and amplified it.
"i saw it on tv!!!"
And yes, you are right about it. And Merkin Baller is right in his comments as well. It's so..depressing... how the most outrageous lies are attempted to be proven and normalized. To wit, this is a carve out from a Bulwark article yesterday.Later that morning on Truth Social, Trump posted an image of the police report as well as video of a woman in the city of Canton, Ohio (which is 173 miles away from Springfield) who was arrested for eating a cat. The woman is a U.S. citizen and not of Haitian descent, according to press reports.
The failure to convert the rope-a-dope and the subsequent, frantic effort to clean up the debate performance left Trump sending mixed messages about whether he wanted to debate again, while supporters started scrambling.
Conservative groups pledged to head to Springfield to find instances of cat-eating there. Others offered up financial rewards for evidence.
“Alright, let’s settle it: I will provide a $5,000 bounty to anyone who can provide my team with hard, verifiable evidence that Haitian migrants are eating cats in Springfield, Ohio. Deadline is Sunday. Go,” conservative activist Christopher Rufo offered on X.
One person spotted the weakness in Rufo’s offer by writing: “Peeps, I’ll be gone for a few days. I’m off to Springfield, Ohio with my cat and a large pot. Five grand is five grand.”
Rufo quickly clarified: “*Must be an incident that occurred prior to the presidential debate! No eating cats, people!”
You should read the article if you haven't. Very interesting. The punch line is that Gaetz, Tulsi and Loomer intentionally had that line set up, but Trump fucked up the delivery and the pivot that was supposed to happen. It's really funny that this was a plan, and funnier that he can't execute. https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-blew-it-cat-scratch-fever-on
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It’s an attempt at rationalizing the bullshit as if POOTWH, or any POTUS candidate, spewing such nonsense is no big deal because “I hadn’t heard about before the debate.” And these same rationalizers will pull the lever for POOTWH because it’s just POOTWH being POOTWH and it was on faceturd and got reported. That post would have been skipped right over and not explained if not challenged. Flood the zone with bullshit.Merkin Baller said:That's fair.
Having said that. I think dismissing these lies as just something believed by a subculture or 'extreme' fringe group is irresponsible considering the way the GOP ticket is pushing the narrative. (& anyone who's been paying a minimal amount of attention these last 8 years know exactly why they're pushing it)
Reminds me of a certain poster who would post a meme of some fauxrage and then ask, “is this really happening?”09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Is it a "sub culture?" Or is it the republican base? Seeing as how both Vance and Trump have pushed this nonsense...you have a clear answer here, mace.mace1229 said:I think you misinterpreted what I said.
When I heard that comment on the debate I thought it came from nowhere. Apparently there are people who actually believe this is happening. I had no idea people thought that was going on.
I don’t believe it’s actually happening more than an isolated case. And yes, I saw this was in Canton and not Springfield, but I figured that to be pretty irrelevant.I’m just saying there’s this sub culture out there who really think pets are getting eaten up, sparked partially by that video. I don’t think it’s true, but I also had no idea that people actually thought that either. Albeit probably not a large number of people, but that’s why I called it a sub culture of extreme right/conservative/maga whatever you want to call it. Pre-debate people thought that, I had no idea this was a thing anyone was concerned about.
They're nuts.
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This was what I inferred from Mace.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s an attempt at rationalizing the bullshit as if POOTWH, or any POTUS candidate, spewing such nonsense is no big deal because “I hadn’t heard about before the debate.”
If I was wrong and his was not a position of dismissal, I apologize for the misinterpretation.0 -
2023Good lord, tell me this is not a cult? His supporters are weird too.
The photo of Trump raising his fist with blood on his face has supplanted his mug shot as the defining image of his campaign, adorning everything from T-shirts to Christmas ornaments, and symbolizing the feeling of defiance that Trump has made core to his political persona. Republicans’ new rallying cry became the “Fight! Fight! Fight!” chant inspired by Trump’s first words after getting shot.
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I am a well-informed and well-read person (if I do say so myself). I read two major newspapers every day, one in print and online, and one online. I also browse other online sources for news. However, I am not on social media, so memes and fringe stuff has to bubble up to my primary sources for me to be aware of it. I had not heard about the immigrants-eating-pets thing before Tuesday. In fact, I was out to dinner during the debate (which I was recording at home) in a relatively quiet restaurant, and they had the debate on the television at the bar behind where we were sitting. At a moment of pause in our conversation, I heard "They're eating the dogs... they're eating the cats." I turned around and said, "What the hell is he on about now?!"I gather speed from you fucking with me.0
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Did dog spill out of your nose when you heard him say it?BF25394 said:I am a well-informed and well-read person (if I do say so myself). I read two major newspapers every day, one in print and online, and one online. I also browse other online sources for news. However, I am not on social media, so memes and fringe stuff has to bubble up to my primary sources for me to be aware of it. I had not heard about the immigrants-eating-pets thing before Tuesday. In fact, I was out to dinner during the debate (which I was recording at home) in a relatively quiet restaurant, and they had the debate on the television at the bar behind where we were sitting. At a moment of pause in our conversation, I heard "They're eating the dogs... they're eating the cats." I turned around and said, "What the hell is he on about now?!"0 -
2023This fucking guy....can't wait to be done with him
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/11/republicans-defy-trump-fed-rate-cut-00178758Republicans break with Trump, back Fed ahead of rate cut
The former president said lowering borrowing costs is “something that they know they shouldn’t be doing” before November’s elections. GOP lawmakers disagree.
“It is time for a rate cut,” Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) said. “This economy — particularly the labor market — is softening very, very, very quickly.” | Mandel Ngan/AFP via Getty Images
By Jasper Goodman and Eleanor Mueller
09/11/2024 07:08 PM EDT
Donald Trump is on a collision course with his fellow Republicans on Capitol Hill over Federal Reserve policy, with a clash looming next week when the central bank cuts interest rates.
The former president has warned that rate cuts are “something that they know they shouldn’t be doing” before the November elections. The Fed move, its first reduction in borrowing costs in four years, will begin to provide relief to a job market that’s showing signs of weakening.
With economic fears rising, some of Trump’s allies on Capitol Hill aren’t echoing his warning to the Fed about election interference and instead say it’s the right call to lower rates. Many GOP lawmakers said in interviews this week that the Fed should act because of worrying indicators that the economy could be slowing down.
“It is time for a rate cut,” said Sen. John Kennedy of Louisiana. “This economy — particularly the labor market — is softening very, very, very quickly.”
GOP lawmakers’ support for the cut signals that they’re willing to give the Fed room to drive decision-making on monetary policy, despite Trump’s stated desire to have more say over it. Next week’s move by Fed Chair Jerome Powell and his colleagues could become a flash point over the independence of the central bank and provide an early window into how Republicans would respond to Trump’s attempts to pressure the Fed if he’s reelected.
“The time is right,” said GOP Rep. Dan Meuser, a Trump supporter from the battleground state of Pennsylvania. “You’ve got to put the greater good ahead of looking political.”
With economic fears rising, some of Donald Trump’s allies on Capitol Hill aren’t echoing his warning to the Fed about election interference and instead say it’s the right call to lower rates. | Evan Vucci/AP
Trump has a long history of accusing the Fed of conspiring against him. He said then-Fed Chair Janet Yellen kept rates low in 2016 to boost Democrats. Trump has said he expects Powell to do the same this year. Powell, a Republican, was a frequent target of Trump’s criticism during his presidency despite being his hand-picked Fed chair.
While some GOP lawmakers have followed Trump’s lead, recent economic indicators appear to be a driving concern for others. Unlike Trump, Republicans in Congress currently hold office and could be held responsible by voters for a downturn.
“When you think about it, a rate cut is a cost cut,” Meuser said. “It’s a stimulus to the economy, it’s something that’s needed. It’s a pro-growth initiative.”
The Fed is facing new pressure to cut rates because of growing concerns about a potential spike in unemployment. Coupled with mounting evidence that Covid-era inflation is tamped down, it’s all but assured that the Fed will ease borrowing costs next week. The big question is by what magnitude it will begin to change course. The Fed raised rates 11 times in 2022 and 2023 to bring down rapid price increases.
RNC spokesperson Anna Kelly said in a statement that “President Trump has repeatedly said that he wants to bring down mortgage and interest rates as quickly as possible by cutting energy prices in half and declaring a national energy emergency.”
Kelly said that Vice President Kamala Harris “has broken our economy and wreaked havoc with her pro-inflation policies” and that “the only way to reignite economic growth is by sending President Trump back to the White House.”
The disconnect between Trump and fellow Republicans on the Fed reveals uncoordinated messaging on the state of the economy. The forces compelling the Fed to cut are signs that the economy is softening under President Joe Biden, which is how GOP lawmakers are choosing to frame the issue as they back the decision to lower rates.
“They’re high because of President Biden’s economic policy, and I think they need to come down,” Sen. Josh Hawley of Missouri said. “I don’t want them to act in a political manner, I want them just to do their job. I wish they’d have done it sooner.”
Some Republicans, including Kennedy, want the Fed to make a big cut — half a percentage point instead of a quarter — just like a number of progressive Democrats.
“When you look at these job numbers, the labor market is really softening quickly,” Kennedy said, adding that he would have supported a smaller cut only a month ago. Kennedy serves on the Senate Banking Committee, which has jurisdiction over the Fed.
Jerome Powell, a Republican, was a frequent target of Donald Trump’s criticism during his presidency despite being his hand-picked Fed chair. | Andrew Harnik/Getty Images
Some Republicans aren’t yet on board. Rep. John Rose of Tennessee said “it may be a little soon” for the Fed to act.
“It may be just pushing it a little bit too quickly, and then when you add in the political element to that, then I think it’s a little questionable,” he said.
Powell has long said that the election plays no role in Fed decision-making.
“We never use our tools to support or oppose a political party, a politician, or any political outcome,” he said in July.
Sen. Thom Tillis, a North Carolina Republican on Senate Banking, said the Fed should abide by its legal mandate to maintain stable prices and promote maximum employment.
“It does look like there’s an increasing body of work, including members of the Fed that are conservative-leaning, saying it’s probably time to do it,” Tillis said of a cut. “That’s the way the Fed should operate. People could call it political. All I care about is how it’s affecting working families. And they need help right now.”
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I hate when people shame others for not knowing something they know. Someone knew it before you, too, didn't they? should they have shamed you? Maybe you just consume more news than Mace does?Merkin Baller said:Yes, I was aware of this narrative before the debate; it's been in the news and JD Vance has been pushing it.
If you hadn't heard of it before Tuesday, you might want to expand your news sources.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Man trump’s targeting that subculture bigly:
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so this is their issue of the week.Merkin Baller said:Man trump’s targeting that subculture bigly:
quadrupling down on a fake story.
my god trump is an idiot. he deserves to lose every electoral vote."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
Poaching case from Michigan a few years ago:
https://www.mlive.com/news/2021/01/three-michigan-relatives-charged-in-historic-elk-poaching-case-from-2019.html
Christian White, 29, of Gaylord, and Harry White, 70, and Ronald White, 56, both of West Branch, pleaded not guilty to a total of eight wildlife crimes after admitting to poaching three cow elk in Pigeon River Country in December 2019.
Doesn't sound like immigrants in this case. In fact, sound kinda... White?0 -
It's right in line with their xenophobic platform.gimmesometruth27 said:so this is their issue of the week.
quadrupling down on a fake story.
my god trump is an idiot. he deserves to lose every electoral vote.
One doesn't need to be a poli-sci major to understand this.0 -
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oh i understand what they are doing. i just found it funny that the man that does not like pets was so emphatically defending them at the debate. it was truly one of the funniest debate moments i have ever seen.Merkin Baller said:It's right in line with their xenophobic platform.
One doesn't need to be a poli-sci major to understand this."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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How did you know I was at a Haitian restaurant?njhaley1 said:Did dog spill out of your nose when you heard him say it?
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2023well well well, trump backed out of a third debate stating he won this last one.
but by all means, maga, vote for the man that is scared to get back in there with kamala.
https://x.com/BBCBreaking/status/1834316421792162287
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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My poli-sci quote wasn't directed at you in particular, it was more an effort to point out the forest as opposed to just the trees (not that it matters.... every thing MAGA / trump related is treated as if it happens in a vacuum).gimmesometruth27 said:oh i understand what they are doing. i just found it funny that the man that does not like pets was so emphatically defending them at the debate. it was truly one of the funniest debate moments i have ever seen.0 -
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Should but won’t. Scary, eh?gimmesometruth27 said:so this is their issue of the week.
quadrupling down on a fake story.
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Now your racist, eh?njhaley1 said:Poaching case from Michigan a few years ago:
https://www.mlive.com/news/2021/01/three-michigan-relatives-charged-in-historic-elk-poaching-case-from-2019.html
Christian White, 29, of Gaylord, and Harry White, 70, and Ronald White, 56, both of West Branch, pleaded not guilty to a total of eight wildlife crimes after admitting to poaching three cow elk in Pigeon River Country in December 2019.
Doesn't sound like immigrants in this case. In fact, sound kinda... White?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Ah yes, like that time brave Mike Tyson famously refused to fight Evander Holyfield again after losing his WBA title in 1996.gimmesometruth27 said:well well well, trump backed out of a third debate stating he won this last one.
but by all means, maga, vote for the man that is scared to get back in there with kamala.
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