There are a few "best version of Black" threads. Pittsburgh has gotten a lot of nods in the ones since last summer. I was there, and have been to a few other shows. It was the most amazing version I've seen, and several 10+ show vets around me agreed.
yeah you're being different but you are right. i know it's a matter of a opinion but i can't believe all these people saying how great the benaroyal hall version is. i mean i always love this song, but thats probably one of my least favorites. i don't mind when you can hear the crowd singing along but i don't like it when ed stops singing and just lets the crowd take over. i also prefer the electric. anyway i'm sure there are better versions but pittsburgh is one of my favs as well. hamburg from '00 was good too. and i also really like the unplugged version but the sound quality of the recordings i've heard have been sub par.
Try Fox Theater (Atlanta) 4/3/94. Mike's guitar is absolutely writhing in pain @ around 4:30. And Ed conveys all the anger & frustration that's been lost since this song became one of Ed's wine breaks (see the next suggestion).
Ed has his gravel in full force during the We Belong Together tag:
"I don't...I don't think...these people understand...oh they don't understand...oh no one understands...we belong together...together..."
And then does some growls to round it out.
MSG - I was there, it was good, definitely one of my favorites. Completely different feel as Fox. I'd say this is my favorite of the "new" ones.
Jones Beach II - 8/24/00 Mike has a really good outtro as well. What a time...
I was always in the "unplugged is the best version of black" camp. Then I saw that somebody thought the '94 Atlanta was the best version. My first thought was yea, epic show, they must just have thought great version of black. But I have converted, I truly think that is the best version of black.. that I have heard. I have been convinced early on that this is PJ's masterpiece and so I am always looking for better versions, and will look at every version in this thread, but until then, '94 Atl takes the prize for me.
I was always in the "unplugged is the best version of black" camp. Then I saw that somebody thought the '94 Atlanta was the best version. My first thought was yea, epic show, they must just have thought great version of black. But I have converted, I truly think that is the best version of black.. that I have heard. I have been convinced early on that this is PJ's masterpiece and so I am always looking for better versions, and will look at every version in this thread, but until then, '94 Atl takes the prize for me.
i was just hearing black, and then it came to me this question, what's the best version of black???, including live and studio
i'd say that the benaroya hall version i don't know the year, i think 2000.
its awsome, especially when the people sang the last part, it gives me creeps each time i hear it
post your opinion
The original from 10? How can you improve on a 10?
Dalai Lama—To say that humility is an essential ingredient in our pursuit of spiritual transformation may seem to be at odds with what I have said about the need for confidence. But there is clearly a distinction to be made between valid confidence or self-esteem, and conceit - which we can describe as an inflated sense of importance, grounded in a false image of self.
unplugged:)i guess its the reason why i love this song that much.which other song can give birth to such an amazing improvisation thorough it ; we belong together...what else can be said?!
i was just hearing black, and then it came to me this question, what's the best version of black???, including live and studio
i'd say that the benaroya hall version i don't know the year, i think 2000.
its awsome, especially when the people sang the last part, it gives me creeps each time i hear it
post your opinion
Totally Totally agree with you! Don't you think he's got a voice that is different, more softer that usual, really sweet? I think it's 2003 though!
"Come on people now, smile on your brother and everybody get together, try to love one another right now!!!!"
"You my friend, I will defend and if we change, well I love you anyway"
"I know I was born and I know that I'll die, the in between is mine, I AM MINE"
Im really surprised no one is mentioning MANSFIELD 2003. Its very very high quality in every way : Ed's singing (including long Beeeeee 16 seconds), and Mike's solo is just A.M.A.Z.I.N.G.
"Ransom paid the Devil, he whispers pleasing words.
Triumphant are the angels if they can get there first."
My personal favorite..I was at that...I've heard Mrseille and Pistioa from the European leg...great vesions but Ottawa 05 is still my favorite
A friend pointed me to the Ottawa, 2005....wow....hauntingly beautiful....powerful...he captures the agony of loss when he does the tag:
You are the stars in the sky
Thought you were up in mine
Still I wonder
I wonder
I wonder
You're so long gone
We've all come alone
Still I wonder
Still I wonder
With each breath I know you're there
Somewhere
I wonder
I still wonder
It's like he's dry-heaving his pain, live and without emotional reservation. I'm speechless.
Does anyone havea link to the version where he mumbles somthing about, "it's her birthday today" just before he sings "Black"?
Dalai Lama—To say that humility is an essential ingredient in our pursuit of spiritual transformation may seem to be at odds with what I have said about the need for confidence. But there is clearly a distinction to be made between valid confidence or self-esteem, and conceit - which we can describe as an inflated sense of importance, grounded in a false image of self.
Though there are many many versions i really like, three special ones come to my mind... unplugged, Berlin 2006 and Lisbon 2007...
°unplugged has already been described here...i agree with you
°I was in Berlin 2006 I was and I am still so touched by
"time heals the wounds
no one can see...
...but my memories
my memories won't let me be...
...
we belong together..."
It reminded and reminds me of a situation I'm still in...can't get out...don't want to get out...wanna get out...like a vicious circle...so gimme the Berlin boot on vinyl and I maybe will get rid of these demons by spinning the black circle...
When hearing the Grand Rapids 2006 version of RVM I was really enthusiastic about the link between these two songs when Eddie was improvising these lines in the middle of RVM adding "I will forgive!"
°Lisbon 2007: first time Eddie was using rougher words in the improv, that touched me also in a different way, like: these feelings (love and hate) maybe also belong together...
"what could it been... (etc.)
fuck you and [...? - can't understand]
..."
...BUT ALSO THE HAMBURG 2000 version is great, not just because I was there...it was maybe the first time (?) that the "du du dut dut du du duuu.." was taken over by the audience so loudly and long...
I don't like the Benaroya Hall version...in my opinion Eddie's voice is not at it's best (sounds like he's fighting with it) and the reverb caused by the location makes me sick...
So far,
Chris,
Oldenburg, Germany,
who desperately wants the Dusseldorf-Bootleg (and BLACK on it).
2000: Hamburg 2006: Berlin 2007: Munich * Düsseldorf 2009: Berlin * Manchester * London 2010: Dublin * Belfast * Berlin 2012: Amsterdam I & II * Berlin I & II * Stockholm * Oslo * Copenhagen EV 2012: Amsterdam I & II 2014: Amsterdam I & II * Milan * Trieste * Vienna * Berlin EV 2017: Berlin 2018: Amsterdam I & II * Prague * Krakow * Berlin 2022: Berlin- Vienna - Prague - Amsterdam I - Amsterdam II # 2024:Berlin I & II
~~~
“It is curious that while good people go to great lengths to spare their children from suffering, few of them seem to notice that the one (and only) guaranteed way to prevent all the suffering of their children is not to bring those children into existence in the first place.” ― David Benatar - Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming into Existence
i was just hearing black, and then it came to me this question, what's the best version of black???, including live and studio
i'd say that the benaroya hall version i don't know the year, i think 2000.
its awsome, especially when the people sang the last part, it gives me creeps each time i hear it
post your opinion
I can't agree more, some other guy thought this part was ruining the song because of the melodramatic character of the song, but I don't think the crowd singing the last part makes this a happy love-song, I think we all know what this song is about, and that makes so wonderful...man i wish i was there...
TR
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There are a few "best version of Black" threads. Pittsburgh has gotten a lot of nods in the ones since last summer. I was there, and have been to a few other shows. It was the most amazing version I've seen, and several 10+ show vets around me agreed.
best ''black'' ever..buenos aires 26-11-2005..
so beautiful!!!!!
and always remember ''it's no crime to escape!!!"
yeah you're being different but you are right. i know it's a matter of a opinion but i can't believe all these people saying how great the benaroyal hall version is. i mean i always love this song, but thats probably one of my least favorites. i don't mind when you can hear the crowd singing along but i don't like it when ed stops singing and just lets the crowd take over. i also prefer the electric. anyway i'm sure there are better versions but pittsburgh is one of my favs as well. hamburg from '00 was good too. and i also really like the unplugged version but the sound quality of the recordings i've heard have been sub par.
yes! and buenos aires 25-11-2005 in second place
I was always in the "unplugged is the best version of black" camp. Then I saw that somebody thought the '94 Atlanta was the best version. My first thought was yea, epic show, they must just have thought great version of black. But I have converted, I truly think that is the best version of black.. that I have heard. I have been convinced early on that this is PJ's masterpiece and so I am always looking for better versions, and will look at every version in this thread, but until then, '94 Atl takes the prize for me.
I agree...Altanta '94....goosebump city
The original from 10? How can you improve on a 10?
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
ı know someday you'll be a star
in somebody else's sky
love and respect this song
"You my friend, I will defend and if we change, well I love you anyway"
"I know I was born and I know that I'll die, the in between is mine, I AM MINE"
Triumphant are the angels if they can get there first."
A friend pointed me to the Ottawa, 2005....wow....hauntingly beautiful....powerful...he captures the agony of loss when he does the tag:
You are the stars in the sky
Thought you were up in mine
Still I wonder
I wonder
I wonder
You're so long gone
We've all come alone
Still I wonder
Still I wonder
With each breath I know you're there
Somewhere
I wonder
I still wonder
It's like he's dry-heaving his pain, live and without emotional reservation. I'm speechless.
Does anyone havea link to the version where he mumbles somthing about, "it's her birthday today" just before he sings "Black"?
°unplugged has already been described here...i agree with you
°I was in Berlin 2006 I was and I am still so touched by
"time heals the wounds
no one can see...
...but my memories
my memories won't let me be...
...
we belong together..."
It reminded and reminds me of a situation I'm still in...can't get out...don't want to get out...wanna get out...like a vicious circle...so gimme the Berlin boot on vinyl and I maybe will get rid of these demons by spinning the black circle...
When hearing the Grand Rapids 2006 version of RVM I was really enthusiastic about the link between these two songs when Eddie was improvising these lines in the middle of RVM adding "I will forgive!"
°Lisbon 2007: first time Eddie was using rougher words in the improv, that touched me also in a different way, like: these feelings (love and hate) maybe also belong together...
"what could it been... (etc.)
fuck you and [...? - can't understand]
..."
...BUT ALSO THE HAMBURG 2000 version is great, not just because I was there...it was maybe the first time (?) that the "du du dut dut du du duuu.." was taken over by the audience so loudly and long...
I don't like the Benaroya Hall version...in my opinion Eddie's voice is not at it's best (sounds like he's fighting with it) and the reverb caused by the location makes me sick...
So far,
Chris,
Oldenburg, Germany,
who desperately wants the Dusseldorf-Bootleg (and BLACK on it).
2006: Berlin
2007: Munich * Düsseldorf
2009: Berlin * Manchester * London
2010: Dublin * Belfast * Berlin
2012: Amsterdam I & II * Berlin I & II * Stockholm * Oslo * Copenhagen
EV 2012: Amsterdam I & II
2014: Amsterdam I & II * Milan * Trieste * Vienna * Berlin
EV 2017: Berlin
2018: Amsterdam I & II * Prague * Krakow * Berlin
2022: Berlin- Vienna - Prague - Amsterdam I - Amsterdam II #
2024: Berlin I & II
~~~
“It is curious that while good people go to great lengths to spare their children from suffering, few of them seem to notice that the one (and only) guaranteed way to prevent all the suffering of their children is not to bring those children into existence in the first place.”
― David Benatar - Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming into Existence
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
I can't agree more, some other guy thought this part was ruining the song because of the melodramatic character of the song, but I don't think the crowd singing the last part makes this a happy love-song, I think we all know what this song is about, and that makes so wonderful...man i wish i was there...
TR