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the best black version

veraciusveracius Posts: 6
edited July 2007 in Words and Music...Communication
i was just hearing black, and then it came to me this question, what's the best version of black???, including live and studio
i'd say that the benaroya hall version i don't know the year, i think 2000.
its awsome, especially when the people sang the last part, it gives me creeps each time i hear it
post your opinion
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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Unplugged by a country mile. I love the different melody of the second verse that eddie sang and I love the "we belong together" tag. simply my favourite version by a long way.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • whispering handswhispering hands Posts: 13,527
    Yeah I have to agree that unplugged is the best.. but the only other version I can see giving it's well deserved run fer it's money is the version from Madison Sqaure.. everytime I watch that DVD and get to Black I kick everyone out of the room, turn up the volume, and try to imagine having been there.. it gives me the chillies each and every time and that last note that ed just carries out... oh god gets me everytime

    Ps I think I shoulda not edited this post because I just erased the most classic typo.. ( iturn up the valume) lmao ok had to ad that hope you all's day is going as well as mine
  • whispering handswhispering hands Posts: 13,527
    Thanks for posting that little known piece of Layne''s poetry.. if I remember correctly wasn't that from a poem he wrote called Core?
  • tellmesomethingtruetellmesomethingtrue Posts: 35
    any version that doesn't have "we don't or didn't belong together" tag in it. if the singer can sing that song with that much passion than that tag is contradictory. (unless the singer is trying to convince otherwise)
    plus, it's depressing.
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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    whispering hands wrote:
    Thanks for posting that little known piece of Layne''s poetry.. if I remember correctly wasn't that from a poem he wrote called Core?
    are you referring to my signature? if so, its the very quiet spoken part in sickman. you can barely hear it but the lyrics are in the album sleeve. Core is amazing though.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Ottawa 05, yes I'm biased.
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  • whispering handswhispering hands Posts: 13,527
    I have been listening to Dirt for years and never caught that part thanks.. will listen for it next time I spin that disc
  • The Waiting Trophy ManThe Waiting Trophy Man Posts: 12,158
    the "original" version, on ten. Live on 2 legs is great, too. So many great live versions...
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  • SwitchSwitch Posts: 119
    tellmesomethingtrue wrote:
    any version that doesn't have "we don't or didn't belong together" tag in it. if the singer can sing that song with that much passion than that tag is contradictory. (unless the singer is trying to convince otherwise)
    plus, it's depressing.

    I've never heard one with "don't belong" or "didn't belong"..."we belong" i have, but could you name some versions with the other two tags in?

    Personally my favourites are Unplugged, and the 'remix' on Rearviewmirror.
  • NothinGBetteRPJMaNNothinGBetteRPJMaN Posts: 530
    One of my recent favorites has to be this one off of the Europe Rarities cd that a website put together not sure the date was this tour but im sure someone else knows what black I am talking about

    Black-Good Woman-We belong together

    And at the end when the song is done and the crowd is still clappin and do da doo doododoing Amazing.

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  • DOSWDOSW Posts: 2,014
    I can't stand the one in Benaroya... it's great up until the audience sings the last part and then joyously cheers themselves after it. Ugh. The song is supposed to be depressing and lonely, not a happy crowd sing-along.

    I know I take it too seriously, but the song means a lot to me.
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  • Androgynous MindAndrogynous Mind Posts: 520
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Unplugged by a country mile. I love the different melody of the second verse that eddie sang and I love the "we belong together" tag. simply my favourite version by a long way.

    Same here.

    I wish ed would put that tag in a little more often.
    Oh he fills it up with the love of a girl...
  • Blue11Blue11 Posts: 200
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Ottawa 05, yes I'm biased.

    My personal favorite..I was at that...I've heard Mrseille and Pistioa from the European leg...great vesions but Ottawa 05 is still my favorite
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  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,561
    which ever show you attended..
  • HoochHooch Posts: 37
    DOSW wrote:
    I can't stand the one in Benaroya... it's great up until the audience sings the last part and then joyously cheers themselves after it. Ugh. The song is supposed to be depressing and lonely, not a happy crowd sing-along.

    I know I take it too seriously, but the song means a lot to me.

    I've witnessed Black live 4 times, and it just keeps getting better each time. I recommend you look at it from a psychological standpoint. This is a downer of a song lyrically, but it is done in such an inspirational way. And when it is done live, and the crowd sings along, the feeling is euphoric. It is an outlet for everyone (and the song means a lot to everyone there too) to collectively vent and sing out the songs they love. It is the same with Alive and a number of others. Hell, just about every show I've been to has turned into one great big singalong. I think that's why I keep going back. I leave feeling invigorated.

    Have a listen to the Boston, 5/25/06. It's my favorite, although I am biased having been there. Both nights just blew my mind...
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  • KasiaStoneKasiaStone Posts: 10
    no one favorite...
    the unplugged version still blows me away.
    Benoroya Hall is a great one (I personally love cranking that one up in the car and singing with the audience on that one.)
    the album version is always a good one.
    and, having been there so am somewhat biased,
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  • DOSWDOSW Posts: 2,014
    Hooch wrote:
    I've witnessed Black live 4 times, and it just keeps getting better each time. I recommend you look at it from a psychological standpoint. This is a downer of a song lyrically, but it is done in such an inspirational way. And when it is done live, and the crowd sings along, the feeling is euphoric. It is an outlet for everyone (and the song means a lot to everyone there too) to collectively vent and sing out the songs they love. It is the same with Alive and a number of others. Hell, just about every show I've been to has turned into one great big singalong. I think that's why I keep going back. I leave feeling invigorated.

    Eh, I don't know. I have no problem with Alive sing alongs or Betterman sing alongs or what have you, but Black just feels to personal. It means a lot to my personal life. I know I'm not unique at all in that regard, but when everybody sings along it just kind of ruins the illusion. You know what I mean?
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  • PJammin'PJammin' Posts: 1,902
    DOSW wrote:
    I can't stand the one in Benaroya... it's great up until the audience sings the last part and then joyously cheers themselves after it. Ugh. The song is supposed to be depressing and lonely, not a happy crowd sing-along.

    I know I take it too seriously, but the song means a lot to me.

    don't you think the crowd is cheering because of the heart and emotion they pour into the song, the overwhelming and unexpected response in that benaroya hall, and the sheer power that comes across as they sing those words? i do. i don't look at it as a happy sing-along, but the crowd appreciating each other as they realize that everyone put their heart into those lyrics at that moment, just as eddie did when he first recorded them. i personally think it's one of the best Black's ever.
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  • edvedder3779edvedder3779 Posts: 65
    Try Fox Theater (Atlanta) 4/3/94. Mike's guitar is absolutely writhing in pain @ around 4:30. And Ed conveys all the anger & frustration that's been lost since this song became one of Ed's wine breaks (see the next suggestion).

    Ed has his gravel in full force during the We Belong Together tag:
    "I don't...I don't think...these people understand...oh they don't understand...oh no one understands...we belong together...together..."

    And then does some growls to round it out.

    MSG - I was there, it was good, definitely one of my favorites. Completely different feel as Fox. I'd say this is my favorite of the "new" ones.

    Jones Beach II - 8/24/00 Mike has a really good outtro as well. What a time...
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  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    My fav version is the one on live on two legs, mikes guitar solo is just amazing, he conveys the emotion of that song so perfectly.
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  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    It's a toss up between the 1992 MTV unplugged version and teh Benaroya Hall version. The unplugged version though, i love how eddie sings "i'm surrounded by some kids that play", in my opinion i think that they should've recorded it that way and still sing it like that :)

    This is an awesome song, a true PJ classic
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  • GRIMMYGRIMMY Posts: 370
    I wasnt at the show but Penn state in 03 was fucking sick..love it.. I dont know if the crowd chanting"let Stone sing" had anything to do with it but Ed sounded prime...and Mike's Guiter work was amazing!!!
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  • JPS79JPS79 Posts: 148
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Unplugged by a country mile. I love the different melody of the second verse that eddie sang and I love the "we belong together" tag. simply my favourite version by a long way.

    Same here love the unplugged version.
    Seems the more you make
    equals the loneliness you get
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    JPS79 wrote:
    Same here love the unplugged version.
    I just watched it again... it blows my mind, the emotion that he put into it. When he starts singing "we...we....we belong together" it makes me want to cry... not many songs do that to me.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
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  • UninspiredUninspired Posts: 6
    this is the best version, im sure this is up there with the best performances http://youtube.com/watch?v=AFVlJAi3Cso
  • AnaPharmaAnaPharma Posts: 27
    Hmmm... I guess almost every version of Black are absolutly beautiful... I always cry... at least can never avoid some tears... But maybe, when Eddie decides to sing, just at the end something like "these people don't understand, they don't understand, that weee, weee belong togetherrrr, togetherrrrr... uhhhh..."... now that really makes me burst into tears, and all the memories........
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  • 70%water70%water Posts: 5
    1/15/95. Constitution Hall Washington D.C.. One of the first shows with Jack Irons. This may be my all time favortie bootleg. "Black" was absolutely unreal and the sound quality of the Bootleg is great. The ending of "Black" is a perfect blend of all the instruments. Still gives me chills.
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  • edwf2000edwf2000 Posts: 95
    I think Camden II from this past tour was unreal. I've seen it live a bunch and that is far and away my favorite. Unplugged is great though as well, but everytime I hear the Camden boot I get chills.
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