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I think you're forgetting that Biden appeared on TV last night and stated it was his call. That seems to be the best evidence to draw a conclusion from.mace1229 said:Sure, it’s all speculation and assumptions. But it’s based on logical conclusions from what we do know as fact. IMO is given/implied.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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No, not necessarily true. He could have said unequivocally that "I'm the candidate, I have the delegates. You are either with me or without me. But we're moving forward and I won't entertain it again". They would go to the convention and delegates would have been pledged and there's not ONE thing the party leaders could do to change that. And people would have voted for him, the party leaders would have stopped the public calls, and donations would continue. So I believe your premise to be wrong.mace1229 said:Because I don’t see it as his choice then. It was the decision of his party and his donors. He couldn’t afford a campaign, especially one without the support of his party. Sure, he could continue to refuse, but he realized it would only hurt his legacy and probably embarrass him more. Really had no choice.
What would have been different than now is that enthusiasm would be down, the donations smaller and the GOTV efforts less effective. And he understood that and therefore made the decision to exit, for the good of the party and at some level, the country. That's still a choice.Post edited by mrussel1 on0 -
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What am I? Give me a litmus test.seanwon said:Yes, most of the Liberal posters here are absolutely far left. If you (not specifically you) don't see it, it is because you are one of them. Coming from a TRUE centrist liberal.0 -
I was thinking a police lineup might help….mrussel1 said:What am I? Give me a litmus test.0 -
Do you care that a migrant caravan of rapists and murderers is coming to the USA to get free health care, free food and free Obamaphones?mrussel1 said:What am I? Give me a litmus test.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
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Can I be that also?brianlux said:I'm moderately conservative liberal common sense-ist.0 -
Of course he said that. Do you think he’d come out and say “I really want to remain in this race, but with the money gone and too many democrats are now calling for me to drop out, I guess I will.”Gern Blansten said:I think you're forgetting that Biden appeared on TV last night and stated it was his call. That seems to be the best evidence to draw a conclusion from.0 -
no...I don't think he would have made that speech because he would still be in itmace1229 said:Of course he said that. Do you think he’d come out and say “I really want to remain in this race, but with the money gone and too many democrats are now calling for me to drop out, I guess I will.”Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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CNN commentator presses David Axelrod on Biden's forced campaign exit: 'Lot of dishonesty'
Biden explained his decision to exit the race in an Oval Office address on Wednesday
Published July 25, 2024 11:00am EDTFormer Obama campaign strategist David Axelrod was pressed to explain how he could account for President Biden's sudden decision to withdraw from the presidential race.
"I think what you’re asking Republicans to do is to overlook a lot of dishonesty that came right out of this White House, that came right out of the vice president, people who work for him, his family, other Democrats, Democrats in Congress," CNN contributor Scott Jennings told Axelrod during a panel discussion Wednesday night.
"You‘re asking the country to overlook a lot of dishonesty about Joe Biden‘s abilities, capabilities, his capacity to serve for another four years and so on," he added
Biden addressed the nation on Wednesday evening from the Oval Office for the first time since he officially dropped out of the 2024 presidential race, saying that he still intends to complete his term.
Jennings said that Biden did not appear to decide to leave the race completely on his own volition, but instead arrived "at this decision with a little push, not just from the goodness of his own heart, but you have to admit, with a little bit of a push from the party bosses."
Axelrod argued that the "party bosses" were communicating the consensus of Democrats and American voters.
"The party bosses were reflecting the consensus of the American people who made a judgment," Axelrod said. "But, Scott, there‘s so many Republicans who I talked to, who are overlooking far more than this, and they‘ll tell you that, about Donald Trump."
"I mean, that is really the story of the Republican Party right now," Axelrod said, adding that the party "is in the thrall of a guy who is morally and ethically challenged and who left the presidency."
"You‘re not on a strong footing here in making this argument," he said.
Jennings responded that Biden's decision to leave the race was a "weird" one.
"I fully and freely admit that both parties have warts," he said. "But we're acting like there's no warts on this situation," Jennings said. "This is weird. [Biden] won the primary without a serious challenge. He told us all he could serve, his party told us he could serve. He's clearly diminished."
"I think he ultimately arrived in the right spot," he said. "He ultimately got here. But it was pretty torturous how they got here and I think a lot of people burned a lot of credibility on the road to getting here."
The White House responded to a request for comment from Fox News Digital by sharing a previously reported letter from Biden's physician, Dr. Kevin O'Connor, explaining that the president is fit for duty.
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This is not the burn I think you think it is. Keep trying though. It’s fun! Like dots! Dots are fun boys and girls!shecky said:CNN commentator presses David Axelrod on Biden's forced campaign exit: 'Lot of dishonesty'
Biden explained his decision to exit the race in an Oval Office address on Wednesday
Published July 25, 2024 11:00am EDTFormer Obama campaign strategist David Axelrod was pressed to explain how he could account for President Biden's sudden decision to withdraw from the presidential race.
"I think what you’re asking Republicans to do is to overlook a lot of dishonesty that came right out of this White House, that came right out of the vice president, people who work for him, his family, other Democrats, Democrats in Congress," CNN contributor Scott Jennings told Axelrod during a panel discussion Wednesday night.
"You‘re asking the country to overlook a lot of dishonesty about Joe Biden‘s abilities, capabilities, his capacity to serve for another four years and so on," he added
Biden addressed the nation on Wednesday evening from the Oval Office for the first time since he officially dropped out of the 2024 presidential race, saying that he still intends to complete his term.
Jennings said that Biden did not appear to decide to leave the race completely on his own volition, but instead arrived "at this decision with a little push, not just from the goodness of his own heart, but you have to admit, with a little bit of a push from the party bosses."
Axelrod argued that the "party bosses" were communicating the consensus of Democrats and American voters.
"The party bosses were reflecting the consensus of the American people who made a judgment," Axelrod said. "But, Scott, there‘s so many Republicans who I talked to, who are overlooking far more than this, and they‘ll tell you that, about Donald Trump."
"I mean, that is really the story of the Republican Party right now," Axelrod said, adding that the party "is in the thrall of a guy who is morally and ethically challenged and who left the presidency."
"You‘re not on a strong footing here in making this argument," he said.
Jennings responded that Biden's decision to leave the race was a "weird" one.
"I fully and freely admit that both parties have warts," he said. "But we're acting like there's no warts on this situation," Jennings said. "This is weird. [Biden] won the primary without a serious challenge. He told us all he could serve, his party told us he could serve. He's clearly diminished."
"I think he ultimately arrived in the right spot," he said. "He ultimately got here. But it was pretty torturous how they got here and I think a lot of people burned a lot of credibility on the road to getting here."
The White House responded to a request for comment from Fox News Digital by sharing a previously reported letter from Biden's physician, Dr. Kevin O'Connor, explaining that the president is fit for duty.
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Gern Blansten said:yeah and just 24/7 outrage on Fox/OAN/Newsmax
The only thing I haven't heard of recently is a migrant caravan of rapists and murderers
left the southern mexican border late last week? biden being old was more newsworthy.....
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seanwon said:Exactly. If I commit a crime and I am looking at a 30 year sentence when found guilty, but the DA offers me a plea deal for 15 years, it's my choice. But do I really have a choice? It's the illusion of choice. Biden had no intention of going anywhere until it was clear he couldn't win, and until the campaign donations were drying up.
your choice was to commit the crime OR NOT to begin with. what you describe is living with or mitigating the consequence of the choice already made.
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Breaking news, Republican Scott Jennings criticizes Biden. Fox news headlines it with Axelrod to fool its stupid readers.shecky said:CNN commentator presses David Axelrod on Biden's forced campaign exit: 'Lot of dishonesty'
Biden explained his decision to exit the race in an Oval Office address on Wednesday
Published July 25, 2024 11:00am EDTFormer Obama campaign strategist David Axelrod was pressed to explain how he could account for President Biden's sudden decision to withdraw from the presidential race.
"I think what you’re asking Republicans to do is to overlook a lot of dishonesty that came right out of this White House, that came right out of the vice president, people who work for him, his family, other Democrats, Democrats in Congress," CNN contributor Scott Jennings told Axelrod during a panel discussion Wednesday night.
"You‘re asking the country to overlook a lot of dishonesty about Joe Biden‘s abilities, capabilities, his capacity to serve for another four years and so on," he added
Biden addressed the nation on Wednesday evening from the Oval Office for the first time since he officially dropped out of the 2024 presidential race, saying that he still intends to complete his term.
Jennings said that Biden did not appear to decide to leave the race completely on his own volition, but instead arrived "at this decision with a little push, not just from the goodness of his own heart, but you have to admit, with a little bit of a push from the party bosses."
Axelrod argued that the "party bosses" were communicating the consensus of Democrats and American voters.
"The party bosses were reflecting the consensus of the American people who made a judgment," Axelrod said. "But, Scott, there‘s so many Republicans who I talked to, who are overlooking far more than this, and they‘ll tell you that, about Donald Trump."
"I mean, that is really the story of the Republican Party right now," Axelrod said, adding that the party "is in the thrall of a guy who is morally and ethically challenged and who left the presidency."
"You‘re not on a strong footing here in making this argument," he said.
Jennings responded that Biden's decision to leave the race was a "weird" one.
"I fully and freely admit that both parties have warts," he said. "But we're acting like there's no warts on this situation," Jennings said. "This is weird. [Biden] won the primary without a serious challenge. He told us all he could serve, his party told us he could serve. He's clearly diminished."
"I think he ultimately arrived in the right spot," he said. "He ultimately got here. But it was pretty torturous how they got here and I think a lot of people burned a lot of credibility on the road to getting here."
The White House responded to a request for comment from Fox News Digital by sharing a previously reported letter from Biden's physician, Dr. Kevin O'Connor, explaining that the president is fit for duty.
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The whole article is quotes from Axeltod. But if you don’t like what it says the radical liberal way is just discount who published it. It’s not even an opinion piece.mrussel1 said:Breaking news, Republican Scott Jennings criticizes Biden. Fox news headlines it with Axelrod to fool its stupid readers.0 -
I suggest you go back and read carefully. The criticism is from Jennings.teskeinc said:The whole article is quotes from Axeltod. But if you don’t like what it says the radical liberal way is just discount who published it. It’s not even an opinion piece.
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Yeah I did, you’re still wrong.mrussel1 said:0 -
The leftest liberal radicals at it again. Burning flags, releasing maggots at Netanyahus hotel. This is who you are and who you support, part of your party supports Hamas and hates Israel and Jews. Own it, that’s you, that’s what Trump voters will be voting against.
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