Who will be the Democratic nominee?

teskeinc said:

tbergs said:

teskeinc said:

mickeyrat said:

teskeinc said:

CM189191 said:

teskeinc said:

CM189191 said:

teskeinc said:

darwinstheory said:

pjl44 said:

I expected that we would have heard from Biden yesterday. Today?

I think I read he would speak later in the week.

He still has “Covid”. He doesn’t speak until Pelosi gives the OK

He should resign. Tell the Dems to F off! Gave 50 years of his life to serving the country and got thrown out with the weekend leftovers. All over a couple polls that said he couldn’t win. Won a primary and over 80+ million (most ever) voted for him in 2020.

Now he’s a 6 month Lame Duck.

Do you think Biden should step down completely and have Harris sworn in as President?

Not sure how that would affect Vice President Harris' ability to be re-elected...

I think he should resign. Obviously he’s not up to the job. He was the best name out there to beat Trump in 2020. He was the best name to beat Trump in 2024. The debate performance caused the panic.

How can he do his job? Now he’s embarrassed. He’s no hero, he was strong armed out. Everyone is laughing at him. Wouldn’t Kamala look better to voters if she assumed role of President for 3.5 months?

I don't think embarrassment has anything to do with it

This may come as a shock to some people, but Biden strikes me as a life-long civil servant who is willing to put aside ego to do what's right for the country

Everyone is not laughing at him, I'm certainly not.  Biden's got more honor and integrity in his left pinky than the whole tRump family combined. 

Apparently Pelosi gave Biden 3 weeks to do things the easy way or she was prepared to remove Biden the hard way. 3 weeks was up yesterday. He chose the easy way. (Guessing Hunter Biden’s court cases played a big role)

Biden didn’t think Kamala was qualified to be President. But he was forced to drop out and endorse Kamala. 

at 81 yrs old, didnt think her qualified to be president YET kept her on the ticket?

It was more of he didn’t think Kamala could beat Trump as well. She was put on the ticket because of her gender and race in 2020. 

That's about the most crass way you could characterize her being on the ticket with an old white dude, but sure let's go with your generalization. I guess it's the same reason Obama chose Biden and Trump chose Pence. The VP is someone meant to balance the ticket. Same way Harris will most likely pick a white male because there are still too many in the country afraid of a woman in power, especially one of color.

Your comments on here the last few days are just a glimpse in to the sexist, racist and misogynistic views that permeate the MAGA movement. So unfortunately, intelligent, witty and highly qualified candidates like Harris still have to push through these barriers everyday, unlike that unqualified ignoramus Trump.

So qualified and unpopular that she dropped out before the first primary in 2020? I guess her on the job training working with Joe Biden for 3.5 years has made up for her failure in 2020 though.

And as “Border Czar” did such a great job she didn’t need to go to the border and supervise the largest number of illegal immigrants coming in in our history. But tell us how great she is?

teskeinc said:

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

mickeyrat said:

teskeinc said:

CM189191 said:

teskeinc said:

CM189191 said:

teskeinc said:

darwinstheory said:

pjl44 said:

I expected that we would have heard from Biden yesterday. Today?

I think I read he would speak later in the week.

He still has “Covid”. He doesn’t speak until Pelosi gives the OK

He should resign. Tell the Dems to F off! Gave 50 years of his life to serving the country and got thrown out with the weekend leftovers. All over a couple polls that said he couldn’t win. Won a primary and over 80+ million (most ever) voted for him in 2020.

Now he’s a 6 month Lame Duck.

Do you think Biden should step down completely and have Harris sworn in as President?

Not sure how that would affect Vice President Harris' ability to be re-elected...

I think he should resign. Obviously he’s not up to the job. He was the best name out there to beat Trump in 2020. He was the best name to beat Trump in 2024. The debate performance caused the panic.

How can he do his job? Now he’s embarrassed. He’s no hero, he was strong armed out. Everyone is laughing at him. Wouldn’t Kamala look better to voters if she assumed role of President for 3.5 months?

I don't think embarrassment has anything to do with it

This may come as a shock to some people, but Biden strikes me as a life-long civil servant who is willing to put aside ego to do what's right for the country

Everyone is not laughing at him, I'm certainly not.  Biden's got more honor and integrity in his left pinky than the whole tRump family combined. 

Apparently Pelosi gave Biden 3 weeks to do things the easy way or she was prepared to remove Biden the hard way. 3 weeks was up yesterday. He chose the easy way. (Guessing Hunter Biden’s court cases played a big role)

Biden didn’t think Kamala was qualified to be President. But he was forced to drop out and endorse Kamala. 

at 81 yrs old, didnt think her qualified to be president YET kept her on the ticket?

It was more of he didn’t think Kamala could beat Trump as well.

You have some amazing insight into people's thoughts and private actions.  First you say Pelosi gave him three weeks and that was up yesterday.  Can you tell us exactly where that ultimatum was delivered and what was the consequence? And how would Pelosi, who is not in leadership, force the president out of the race?  

Second, you tell us Biden didn't believe Harris was qualified to be president today.  Tell us more about how you know how Biden feels about Harris.  Do you have quotes?  Do you have mind reading results?  Or do you just talk out of your ass?

I didn’t say it. Links were posted. Go back and read. I don’t know what the consequences would be. Guessing either 25th amendment or the threat of harsher punishment in Hunters sentencing? Just speculating there.

Pelosi is still a powerful figure in the party. She controls the purse strings of Hollywood elite and big donors. 

Biden has said it also in the Axios article that he didn’t think she could beat Trump. He was the only one that could finish the work he started. If he had confidence in Kamala he wouldn’t have run for re-election in the first place since he was only a “transitional” candidate by his own admission.

Sorry if the truth hurts you. But that’s a character flaw you’re probably used to.

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/18/nancy-pelosi-biden-president-2024

OnWis97 said:

curmudgeoness said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

You can bet that tRump's camp is wishing they had that Vance pick back. I bet they would go with Haley right now given the circumstances.

Interesting argument.  Would she have taken it?

I bet she would; she's every bit as ambitious/ craven as Vance is. She would have been a far more palatable option, too, since her foreign policy views are reality-based, at least.

There are a small, vilified handful of Republicans that have stayed true to recognizing Trump for what he is. Haley, like most of them, always comes back to King Donny. I am sure she'd have taken it.

I'm not clear what the Biden decision would make the Trump camp wish they'd picked her instead of Vance though.

teskeinc said:

curmudgeoness said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

You can bet that tRump's camp is wishing they had that Vance pick back. I bet they would go with Haley right now given the circumstances.

Interesting argument.  Would she have taken it?

I bet she would; she's every bit as ambitious/ craven as Vance is. She would have been a far more palatable option, too, since her foreign policy views are reality-based, at least.

Let’s be honest if she was picked she would be slandered here by the lefty liberals just like any other candidate. That’s what you do here.

End of the day it doesn’t matter. The 10-20 posters here are voting for an empty chair over Trump. It’s people like me who have voted mostly Democrat in their life that needs a centrist candidate to be better than Trump. That isn’t Kamala. That’s what is going to decide the swing states and ultimately the election.

Go Beavers said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Go Beavers said:

tempo_n_groove said:

tbergs said:

teskeinc said:

cblock4life said:

Now Harris ran the country when they said it was Obama?  Which is it?  The republicans are complete and total fools and liars.  They’re so wound up now and scrambling, scared, and giving us the most amusement yet.  I find this to be some of the funniest stuff the country has ever seen!  I can’t wait till the big baby loses to a woman.  

The Dems/media hid and covered up Biden for 3.5 years and were willing to do that for 4 more years until he shit the bed in the debate. Then formed a coup led by Pelosi and the Hollywood elite to strong arm him out as nominee. Going against the will of 15 million primary voters and democracy.

What a noble party!

There you go, using coup again like it applies in this situation. 

A coup can be an uprising or behind the scenes act.  I'll allow it.

So the Constitution validates coup attempts via the 25th Amendment? 

Are you trying to be witty?  Has Kamala become president and I missed it? That is what the 25th amendment is.  Making the VP the P no?

The 25th is even a higher level intervention where a handful of people can remove a standing president. By the loose definition the reactionary right is using, it would also be a “coup”

teskeinc said:

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

mickeyrat said:

teskeinc said:

CM189191 said:

teskeinc said:

CM189191 said:

teskeinc said:

darwinstheory said:

pjl44 said:

I expected that we would have heard from Biden yesterday. Today?

I think I read he would speak later in the week.

He still has “Covid”. He doesn’t speak until Pelosi gives the OK

He should resign. Tell the Dems to F off! Gave 50 years of his life to serving the country and got thrown out with the weekend leftovers. All over a couple polls that said he couldn’t win. Won a primary and over 80+ million (most ever) voted for him in 2020.

Now he’s a 6 month Lame Duck.

Do you think Biden should step down completely and have Harris sworn in as President?

Not sure how that would affect Vice President Harris' ability to be re-elected...

I think he should resign. Obviously he’s not up to the job. He was the best name out there to beat Trump in 2020. He was the best name to beat Trump in 2024. The debate performance caused the panic.

How can he do his job? Now he’s embarrassed. He’s no hero, he was strong armed out. Everyone is laughing at him. Wouldn’t Kamala look better to voters if she assumed role of President for 3.5 months?

I don't think embarrassment has anything to do with it

This may come as a shock to some people, but Biden strikes me as a life-long civil servant who is willing to put aside ego to do what's right for the country

Everyone is not laughing at him, I'm certainly not.  Biden's got more honor and integrity in his left pinky than the whole tRump family combined. 

Apparently Pelosi gave Biden 3 weeks to do things the easy way or she was prepared to remove Biden the hard way. 3 weeks was up yesterday. He chose the easy way. (Guessing Hunter Biden’s court cases played a big role)

Biden didn’t think Kamala was qualified to be President. But he was forced to drop out and endorse Kamala. 

at 81 yrs old, didnt think her qualified to be president YET kept her on the ticket?

It was more of he didn’t think Kamala could beat Trump as well.

You have some amazing insight into people's thoughts and private actions.  First you say Pelosi gave him three weeks and that was up yesterday.  Can you tell us exactly where that ultimatum was delivered and what was the consequence? And how would Pelosi, who is not in leadership, force the president out of the race?  

Second, you tell us Biden didn't believe Harris was qualified to be president today.  Tell us more about how you know how Biden feels about Harris.  Do you have quotes?  Do you have mind reading results?  Or do you just talk out of your ass?

I didn’t say it. Links were posted. Go back and read. I don’t know what the consequences would be. Guessing either 25th amendment or the threat of harsher punishment in Hunters sentencing? Just speculating there.

Pelosi is still a powerful figure in the party. She controls the purse strings of Hollywood elite and big donors. 

Biden has said it also in the Axios article that he didn’t think she could beat Trump. He was the only one that could finish the work he started. If he had confidence in Kamala he wouldn’t have run for re-election in the first place since he was only a “transitional” candidate by his own admission.

Sorry if the truth hurts you. But that’s a character flaw you’re probably used to.

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/18/nancy-pelosi-biden-president-2024