#46 President Joe Biden

cblock4life said:

mace1229 said:

cblock4life said:

Biden looked awful yesterday.  But Trump isn’t looking much better.  IMO he aged about ten years.  I haven’t really seen him happy since the shooting.  Imagine thinking the entire country (or at least R) love you, then all of a sudden some young republican man from a MAGA home try’s to kill you, and then you find out another country wants you dead, it’s exactly like the Emperor’s New Clothes. 

I wouldn’t be happy either knowing how badly my security detail screwed up and almost cost me my life either.

I remember you said the other day both the shooter’s parents are strong republicans. I’m curious if you actually know that, or just assuming?
I read one parent was registered democrat and the other libertarian. I haven’t seen any reports that he came from a MAGA/trump family. And he had googled locations of the DNC, so possibly not just targeting Trump. 

I don’t knowing this was the article I saw the other day, but here’s one that says the same thing
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/trump-shooters-parents-called-police-hours-before-assassination-attempt.amp

I wrote the other day for everyone to ignore the BS coming out of Bethel Park a/k/a Heroin High.  So much still being written is total crap.  Trump signs were in the yard both former presidential elections.  I’m not saying who or how I know them and you can believe me or not, it truly doesn’t matter (not being rude I promise).  I’m not sure how to say this but the districts all around and including Bethel are absolutely magnificent at keeping things quiet.  They don’t allow anything to get out that they don’t want out. I imagine most schools are like that.

No one wants to believe that MAGA would shoot him so BP is just going with the program Mace.  Don’t forget I worked in a school district - not Bethel - but close enough.  I was a confidential board secretary, finance and operations assistant director and helped extensively in the business department.  I had access to information that I wish I never knew.  

I’m not gonna argue about it.  Maybe he did plan to shoot them both.  I honestly don’t care whether he was D or R.  I get these are presidents but I’m sorry, I don’t see where their lives should be protected or mourned more than children in schools.  Fuck both sides for never doing anything about that.  I’m just at that point.  

But maybe you can help me understand how can R  can be pro-life, pro-gun, and pro capital punishment all at the same time?  

To be clear, I don’t agree with a lot of this, but I’ll try to answer your question.

Pro-lifers believe the right to life of a fetus supersedes the right to chose. It’s not a matter of women’s rights, nearly half of pro-lifers are women, they see a fetus and believe it has the right to live. Some believe it at different points in the pregnancy, but that’s what it boils down to.

Capital punishment, some people just perform such an egregious act the proper punishment is death. A few years ago this guy in Colorado killed his wife, put his 3 and 5 year old daughter in the back of the truck with his dead wife. Drove an hour, strangled his 2 daughters as they begged for their life, and disposed of the bodies. That guy deserves to die (if I remember, he got life as per of a deal though). You can believe life is precious and also believe there are some acts so heinous the fitting punishment is death. I personally have no problem executing that father, or some other guy who rapes and murders a 12 year old girl, they have no place on this earth. Many disagree and that’s fine.

Guns are trickier as there’s multiple reasons. Some genuinely believe without them, our government will turn into a dictatorship. Although I don’t believe it to be very many. Probably the biggest reason you can be pro life and pro 2A is we just don’t all enforce the laws we have. There is pushback against harsher sentencing. Some laws like anti gang laws or elevating a crime if you’re in possession of a gun impact minorities more and contribute to overcrowding and higher incarceration rates. The majority of gun homicides are gang related and/or during the commission of a crime. Many gun owners don’t believe tighter restrictions are going to impact gangs and those already committing felony crimes, and therefore have minimal impact. To lower gun crime, bring back gang task forces, stricter punishments for gun crimes, automatic time added to your sentence if you’re in possession of a gun during a crime or found to be in illegal possession. And prosecute all gun crimes. With this recent Hunter case we’ve heard so much that it’s just political, and no one ever gets charged of lying of a gun form. And that’s probably true. But it’s also incredibly stupid. If you’re caught illegally purchasing a gun, through lying on your form or another means, there should be a minimum sentence and always prosecuted. But we don’t do many of those basic things, which creates pushback from gun owners when they want tighter restrictions.

shecky said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

CM189191 said:

pjl44 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

The Juggler said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

The Juggler said:

mace1229 said:

josevolution said:

It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..

It’s not that. There’s plenty of republicans that don’t like Trump.
There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours. 

About the only things I’ve read about him was he’s standoffish, a loner and known for wearing hunting clothes and a Covid mask after the pandemic. If he’s MAGA, he’s the only one who continued to wear a mask.

And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA.
Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does.
Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.

Face it, mace, if the kid was a black transgender liberal swimmer, maga would be parading in the streets and jumping up and down for joy and you know it.

They obviously do not know how to grasp the fact that he fits the same profile as just about every mass shooter this country sees everyday: that he's one of them.


Regarding the lack of info...what is strange to me is that Trump's medical team has not said anything. A former president gets shot (supposedly) and the public is not given one piece of information regarding the injury he suffered? I saw one article that said he did not even need stitches, yet he is wearing a tampon sized bandage over his entire ear. Can't wrap my head around it....

trump has always been private about his health. hence the bullshit doctor's notes with fake height and weight and incredibly low bmi. does anybody really think he would let a doctor come out and state how insignificant his injury was? he even denied having bone spurs.

Kinda think if the report would help him appear tougher, he would release it. Not releasing only makes the whispers of a little piece of glass grazing his ear grow louder. 

Still just odd. Just odd....ex president reportedly is shot and the only confirmation we have is from that same ex president...who is not exactly known to tell the truth about much of anything lol

if i were the candidate i would want the people to know the extent of my injuries. because it is the right thing to do.

Do you want to see the half inch of mangled cartilage? It grazed his ear. How much detail do you need?

All of it

photos
medical records
tax returns
college transcripts

Yeah. It's quite strange how some people are just okay without having any details regarding an assanination attempt on a former president--whether it's Trump or anyone else.  

I think it does matter if the bullet hit him or it was charred glass that ricocheted. I think it does matter if they are lying about what actually happened to him...at the very least it speaks to the character of the man on whether he would lie about it or not.

And for arguments sake, if it comes out in the weeks and months ahead that he was not actually shot---politically speaking, they will look pretty foolish. 

Imagine history books 50 years from now citing Donald Trump, alone, on whether he was shot or not. lol.

I just think it's hilarious that tRump has that ridiculous looking bandage on his head. There is likely very little scarring is my guess. No stiches and we know that if the actual ear looked bad he wouldn't be wearing a bandage at all. 

He make the decision that he had to have that pillow on his head.

"screenshot taken."

shecky said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

CM189191 said:

pjl44 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

The Juggler said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

The Juggler said:

mace1229 said:

josevolution said:

It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..

It’s not that. There’s plenty of republicans that don’t like Trump.
There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours. 

About the only things I’ve read about him was he’s standoffish, a loner and known for wearing hunting clothes and a Covid mask after the pandemic. If he’s MAGA, he’s the only one who continued to wear a mask.

And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA.
Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does.
Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.

Face it, mace, if the kid was a black transgender liberal swimmer, maga would be parading in the streets and jumping up and down for joy and you know it.

They obviously do not know how to grasp the fact that he fits the same profile as just about every mass shooter this country sees everyday: that he's one of them.


Regarding the lack of info...what is strange to me is that Trump's medical team has not said anything. A former president gets shot (supposedly) and the public is not given one piece of information regarding the injury he suffered? I saw one article that said he did not even need stitches, yet he is wearing a tampon sized bandage over his entire ear. Can't wrap my head around it....

trump has always been private about his health. hence the bullshit doctor's notes with fake height and weight and incredibly low bmi. does anybody really think he would let a doctor come out and state how insignificant his injury was? he even denied having bone spurs.

Kinda think if the report would help him appear tougher, he would release it. Not releasing only makes the whispers of a little piece of glass grazing his ear grow louder. 

Still just odd. Just odd....ex president reportedly is shot and the only confirmation we have is from that same ex president...who is not exactly known to tell the truth about much of anything lol

if i were the candidate i would want the people to know the extent of my injuries. because it is the right thing to do.

Do you want to see the half inch of mangled cartilage? It grazed his ear. How much detail do you need?

All of it

photos
medical records
tax returns
college transcripts

Yeah. It's quite strange how some people are just okay without having any details regarding an assanination attempt on a former president--whether it's Trump or anyone else.  

I think it does matter if the bullet hit him or it was charred glass that ricocheted. I think it does matter if they are lying about what actually happened to him...at the very least it speaks to the character of the man on whether he would lie about it or not.

And for arguments sake, if it comes out in the weeks and months ahead that he was not actually shot---politically speaking, they will look pretty foolish. 

Imagine history books 50 years from now citing Donald Trump, alone, on whether he was shot or not. lol.

I just think it's hilarious that tRump has that ridiculous looking bandage on his head. There is likely very little scarring is my guess. No stiches and we know that if the actual ear looked bad he wouldn't be wearing a bandage at all. 

He make the decision that he had to have that pillow on his head.

yeah man...I'm not on here saying those two are "tough guys" and "protected by angels"...bandage still looks like a kotex regardless

pjl44 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

The Juggler said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

The Juggler said:

mace1229 said:

josevolution said:

It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..

It’s not that. There’s plenty of republicans that don’t like Trump.
There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours. 

About the only things I’ve read about him was he’s standoffish, a loner and known for wearing hunting clothes and a Covid mask after the pandemic. If he’s MAGA, he’s the only one who continued to wear a mask.

And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA.
Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does.
Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.

Face it, mace, if the kid was a black transgender liberal swimmer, maga would be parading in the streets and jumping up and down for joy and you know it.

They obviously do not know how to grasp the fact that he fits the same profile as just about every mass shooter this country sees everyday: that he's one of them.


Regarding the lack of info...what is strange to me is that Trump's medical team has not said anything. A former president gets shot (supposedly) and the public is not given one piece of information regarding the injury he suffered? I saw one article that said he did not even need stitches, yet he is wearing a tampon sized bandage over his entire ear. Can't wrap my head around it....

trump has always been private about his health. hence the bullshit doctor's notes with fake height and weight and incredibly low bmi. does anybody really think he would let a doctor come out and state how insignificant his injury was? he even denied having bone spurs.

Kinda think if the report would help him appear tougher, he would release it. Not releasing only makes the whispers of a little piece of glass grazing his ear grow louder. 

Still just odd. Just odd....ex president reportedly is shot and the only confirmation we have is from that same ex president...who is not exactly known to tell the truth about much of anything lol

if i were the candidate i would want the people to know the extent of my injuries. because it is the right thing to do.

Do you want to see the half inch of mangled cartilage? It grazed his ear. How much detail do you need?

i want all of it. why wouldn't you?

gimmesometruth27 said:

pjl44 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

The Juggler said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

The Juggler said:

mace1229 said:

josevolution said:

It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..

It’s not that. There’s plenty of republicans that don’t like Trump.
There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours. 

About the only things I’ve read about him was he’s standoffish, a loner and known for wearing hunting clothes and a Covid mask after the pandemic. If he’s MAGA, he’s the only one who continued to wear a mask.

And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA.
Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does.
Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.

Face it, mace, if the kid was a black transgender liberal swimmer, maga would be parading in the streets and jumping up and down for joy and you know it.

They obviously do not know how to grasp the fact that he fits the same profile as just about every mass shooter this country sees everyday: that he's one of them.


Regarding the lack of info...what is strange to me is that Trump's medical team has not said anything. A former president gets shot (supposedly) and the public is not given one piece of information regarding the injury he suffered? I saw one article that said he did not even need stitches, yet he is wearing a tampon sized bandage over his entire ear. Can't wrap my head around it....

trump has always been private about his health. hence the bullshit doctor's notes with fake height and weight and incredibly low bmi. does anybody really think he would let a doctor come out and state how insignificant his injury was? he even denied having bone spurs.

Kinda think if the report would help him appear tougher, he would release it. Not releasing only makes the whispers of a little piece of glass grazing his ear grow louder. 

Still just odd. Just odd....ex president reportedly is shot and the only confirmation we have is from that same ex president...who is not exactly known to tell the truth about much of anything lol

if i were the candidate i would want the people to know the extent of my injuries. because it is the right thing to do.

Do you want to see the half inch of mangled cartilage? It grazed his ear. How much detail do you need?

i want all of it. why wouldn't you?

In two weeks! Hey can anyone tell me if he outlined any policies at his welcome home party last night my TV doesn’t let me watch pathetically full of 💩 humans it just turns off🤷‍♂️

pjl44 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

pjl44 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

The Juggler said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

The Juggler said:

mace1229 said:

josevolution said:

It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..

It’s not that. There’s plenty of republicans that don’t like Trump.
There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours. 

About the only things I’ve read about him was he’s standoffish, a loner and known for wearing hunting clothes and a Covid mask after the pandemic. If he’s MAGA, he’s the only one who continued to wear a mask.

And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA.
Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does.
Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.

Face it, mace, if the kid was a black transgender liberal swimmer, maga would be parading in the streets and jumping up and down for joy and you know it.

They obviously do not know how to grasp the fact that he fits the same profile as just about every mass shooter this country sees everyday: that he's one of them.


Regarding the lack of info...what is strange to me is that Trump's medical team has not said anything. A former president gets shot (supposedly) and the public is not given one piece of information regarding the injury he suffered? I saw one article that said he did not even need stitches, yet he is wearing a tampon sized bandage over his entire ear. Can't wrap my head around it....

trump has always been private about his health. hence the bullshit doctor's notes with fake height and weight and incredibly low bmi. does anybody really think he would let a doctor come out and state how insignificant his injury was? he even denied having bone spurs.

Kinda think if the report would help him appear tougher, he would release it. Not releasing only makes the whispers of a little piece of glass grazing his ear grow louder. 

Still just odd. Just odd....ex president reportedly is shot and the only confirmation we have is from that same ex president...who is not exactly known to tell the truth about much of anything lol

if i were the candidate i would want the people to know the extent of my injuries. because it is the right thing to do.

Do you want to see the half inch of mangled cartilage? It grazed his ear. How much detail do you need?

i want all of it. why wouldn't you?

These are the arguments I usually have with my MAGA friends and now I also get to have them with liberals so yeah everything is great 

No offense....but what are you talking about? An ex president, who is also running for president again, has been shot and no information about the incident or extent of his injuries have been released. The only confirmation that he was actually shot came from that same ex president who cannot complete a sentence without telling a blatant lie. 

That's not normal. 

The Juggler said:

pjl44 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

pjl44 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

The Juggler said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

The Juggler said:

mace1229 said:

josevolution said:

It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..

It’s not that. There’s plenty of republicans that don’t like Trump.
There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours. 

About the only things I’ve read about him was he’s standoffish, a loner and known for wearing hunting clothes and a Covid mask after the pandemic. If he’s MAGA, he’s the only one who continued to wear a mask.

And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA.
Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does.
Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.

Face it, mace, if the kid was a black transgender liberal swimmer, maga would be parading in the streets and jumping up and down for joy and you know it.

They obviously do not know how to grasp the fact that he fits the same profile as just about every mass shooter this country sees everyday: that he's one of them.


Regarding the lack of info...what is strange to me is that Trump's medical team has not said anything. A former president gets shot (supposedly) and the public is not given one piece of information regarding the injury he suffered? I saw one article that said he did not even need stitches, yet he is wearing a tampon sized bandage over his entire ear. Can't wrap my head around it....

trump has always been private about his health. hence the bullshit doctor's notes with fake height and weight and incredibly low bmi. does anybody really think he would let a doctor come out and state how insignificant his injury was? he even denied having bone spurs.

Kinda think if the report would help him appear tougher, he would release it. Not releasing only makes the whispers of a little piece of glass grazing his ear grow louder. 

Still just odd. Just odd....ex president reportedly is shot and the only confirmation we have is from that same ex president...who is not exactly known to tell the truth about much of anything lol

if i were the candidate i would want the people to know the extent of my injuries. because it is the right thing to do.

Do you want to see the half inch of mangled cartilage? It grazed his ear. How much detail do you need?

i want all of it. why wouldn't you?

These are the arguments I usually have with my MAGA friends and now I also get to have them with liberals so yeah everything is great 

No offense....but what are you talking about? An ex president, who is also running for president again, has been shot and no information about the incident or extent of his injuries have been released. The only confirmation that he was actually shot came from that same ex president who cannot complete a sentence without telling a blatant lie. 

That's not normal. 

NBC:

pjl44 said:

Guys on Pearl Jam Message Board Who Have Done Their Own Research 

My own research tells me that POOTWH’s ear was grazed and required no stitches. My research also tells me that his official spokespeople have not explained the overly large base covering his whole ear for what all my research tells me is a flesh wound requiring no stitches. My own research wonders why there’s been no official explanation or statement from the attending medical personnel or official spokespeople to take questions from the press regarding whether POOTWH’s hearing has been affected or whether there have been any other side effects. My own research tells me this is not normal for there to be such a lack of official information coming from the victim, a POTUS candidate, his campaign and his medical team that treated him.

Ronny Rayguns almost dying on the table, being fortunate enough to have been taken to DC’s premier gunshot wound trauma centre and waving from his hospital room window the following day, POOTWH is not. My own research tells me that.

My own research also explains the base sized bandage. Jealousy.

Halifax2TheMax said:

pjl44 said:

Guys on Pearl Jam Message Board Who Have Done Their Own Research 

My own research tells me that POOTWH’s ear was grazed and required no stitches. My research also tells me that his official spokespeople have not explained the overly large base covering his whole ear for what all my research tells me is a flesh wound requiring no stitches. My own research wonders why there’s been no official explanation or statement from the attending medical personnel or official spokespeople to take questions from the press regarding whether POOTWH’s hearing has been affected or whether there have been any other side effects. My own research tells me this is not normal for there to be such a lack of official information coming from the victim, a POTUS candidate, his campaign and his medical team that treated him.

Ronny Rayguns almost dying on the table, being fortunate enough to have been taken to DC’s premier gunshot wound trauma centre and waving from his hospital room window the following day, POOTWH is not. My own research tells me that.

My own research also explains the base sized bandage. Jealousy.

There are questions popping up all  over the place (not just MSNBC, but that was probably just a joke, haha) questioning why Trump has simply shut the door on this issue, not allowing any medical reports out to verify the injury was actually a bullet.  Common sense would say if it really was a bullet, he would be more than willing to share that information.  But are we surprised by any of this?  Pffft, hell no.