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I know there's so much hype about the new WMA..

LeatherMosquitoManLeatherMosquitoMan Posts: 4,034
edited July 2008 in Given To Fly (live)
And i'm sorry, but, i just can't do it.

The Bonnaroo version is the best of the new version, and that's just barely listen-able to my ears. And it seems each version after that gets worse and worse (maybe it's the order i listened to the boots.... wasn't exactly in order of appearance)

And the reason why i don't like it, is the drumming. And yes, i have played, for 14 years. I will never go past the Atlanta 1994 version as my favourite of this song.

The drums were never 'nailed' in the new version, except for a few sequences here and there, but not an entire song, and even sounded quite sloppy at times. Nothing against Matt, but this and 'Who You Are' just aren't him. It's the same reason i can't get into the new 'Who You Are'.
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    JohnnyGeetarJohnnyGeetar Posts: 165
    I agree. Once I heard the new WMA I immediately went back to '94 and '95 to listen to Dave and Jack. And as for Who You Are...love it, but I could do without the, "You are who, who you are" bit at the end.
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,729
    LeatherMosquitoMan wrote:

    And the reason why i don't like it, is the drumming. And yes, i have played, for 14 years. I will never go past the Atlanta 1994 version as my favourite of this song.

    well here's a heads-up, there were two drummers for that Atlanta 1994 WMA; Dave and Jerry Gaskill, the drummer of the opening band "King's X." So it can't really be duplicated.
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    Evolution6579Evolution6579 Posts: 624
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    well here's a heads-up, there were two drummers for that Atlanta 1994 WMA; Dave and Jerry Gaskill, the drummer of the opening band "King's X." So it can't really be duplicated.

    Yeah, so go drink some Haterade.
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,729
    Evolution6579 wrote:
    Yeah, so go drink some Haterade.

    how am I being a hater? He's saying that Matt's drums on the new WMA aren't as good as Atlanta '94. Well, that's because they can't be. even the studio version of WMA has two drum tracks.
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    pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,884
    I like both versions, and i'm glad they reworked it so they can play the song live again. I agree Atlanta 94 is the best and it will never be topped. I like the new Who You Are too. The one song I wish they would go back to the original is still In My Tree.
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    FedericoFederico Posts: 7,916
    well...its been said, but the studio wma has two drums...also teh atlanta 94 version....I also play drums and IMHO matt does a great job filling the whole song without additional percussion...not a lot of rock drummers are able to do that...
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    Evolution6579 wrote:
    Yeah, so go drink some Haterade.
    Do you like the new Tiger Woods Haterade? I still prefer the Rain flavors.
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    Red BurritoRed Burrito Posts: 476
    Jason P wrote:
    Do you like the new Tiger Woods Haterade? I still prefer the Rain flavors.

    Both taste like Good Charlotte sounds!
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    12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    Matt plays his own way. Thats what I like about him. And he does a fine job of filling in the those octagon parts by hitting on the smaller toms to the left of his snare and right of his floor toms.
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    vedderoffdeadvedderoffdead Posts: 684
    I love the new W.M.A. I think it has a great new feel to it, and I personally think that the Bonaroo version was by far the WORST. They got much better as the mini-tour progressed IMO.
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    inhiding 1976inhiding 1976 NWI Posts: 580
    LeatherMosquitoMan wrote:
    And i'm sorry, but, i just can't do it.

    The Bonnaroo version is the best of the new version, and that's just barely listen-able to my ears. And it seems each version after that gets worse and worse (maybe it's the order i listened to the boots.... wasn't exactly in order of appearance)

    And the reason why i don't like it, is the drumming. And yes, i have played, for 14 years. I will never go past the Atlanta 1994 version as my favourite of this song.

    The drums were never 'nailed' in the new version, except for a few sequences here and there, but not an entire song, and even sounded quite sloppy at times. Nothing against Matt, but this and 'Who You Are' just aren't him. It's the same reason i can't get into the new 'Who You Are'.
    Atlanta is a great version, has anyone listened to "Piss Bottle Men" Seattle Showbox. W.M.A is kick ass and by far in the top 2 ever played

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    Evolution6579Evolution6579 Posts: 624
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    how am I being a hater? He's saying that Matt's drums on the new WMA aren't as good as Atlanta '94. Well, that's because they can't be. even the studio version of WMA has two drum tracks.

    I wasn't talking about you, guy. I quoted you as a pretext to what I said. I meant no offense.
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    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    i prefer the new WMA and Who You Are to the old ones. I'm not a drummer, so i'm dont really care if the new ones are simpler. they just sound better to my silly ears!
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    hiding103006hiding103006 Posts: 452
    like the old version better...

    but theres nothing wrong with the new one. its awesome thats its being played again so who cares..
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    slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,757
    burgandy75 wrote:
    love it, but I could do without the, "You are who, who you are" bit at the end.

    I could too, except IT'S THE BEST F'N PART.

    Lots of weirdos running around this board these days ;)
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
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