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Seems like they just had a tour or 2 for a new album, and somehow found a way to do 40 or so shows with 25 song sets, and be doing something different at the end of the tour than they were at the beginning. There may still be time for them to NOT play the same 4 songs in the same 4 spots before the year is over. But if for some reason thats how they choose to do this one, I'm pretty sure that I will still enjoy the hell out of the 9 shows i'm seeing this time. Hopefully some of you are still able to find some reason to have a good time at these despite that terrible evil.
- 2006: Gorge 1
- 2009: Seattle 1
- 2013: Seattle
- 2016: Wrigley 1 & 2
- 2018: Seattle 1&2, Montana
- 2020: San Diego, LA 1&2, Oakland 1&2
- 2022: San Diego, LA 1&2, Fresno, Sacramento, Las Vegas, Denver
- 2024: Vancouver 1, Portland, Las Vegas 1&2, Seattle 1&2, Missoula, Dana Point 1 & 2
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It has been expressed many times, how the songs fit/work together in the sequence on the album, and enhance each other that way.
That sequence of the opening 4 album songs, (beginning the DM experience), and ending the show with Setting Sun, is ideal to me. But that contains 4 of my favorite (so far) 5 songs, so I really like it. Dark Matter after Wreckage makes it more agreeable to me (DM not my fav, but its the name of the album, its going to get played.)
Just my personal preference. I hope they include those 5 in the same spots, for more than one of my shows.
Vancouver got some great stuff beside the new ones. Wash, Chloe/Crown, Immortality, ALONE. Sure hope I get those at my shows.Post edited by OfThePearl on0 -
I will say that having the animations and screen set ups may take some of the spontaneity out of set list creation. I also expect the production team to get more efficient and flexible as the shows move along.
If the four DM songs are 5-8 for the rest of this US leg, that would be disappointing…but I’ll still go and have fun at the end of the month.Seattle 8-8-18
Chicago 8-18-18
Chicago 8-20-18
St. Louis 4-4-20
Denver 4-9-20
Denver 9-22-22
Noblesville 9-10-23
Vancouver 5-6-24
Seattle 5-30-24
Nashville 5-6-25
EV
Chicago 2-9-22
Tempe 2-26-230 -
SHZA said:BF25394 said:mcgruff10 said:Four of the same songs in a row in the exact same spot in the setlist is pretty lame for pearl jam. And ending both shows with the same song? ugh.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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1998: Barrie 2000: Toronto 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Toronto 2006: Toronto 1&2, Paris, Milan, Torino, Pistoia 2009: Calgary, Vancouver 2011: Canada 2013: London, Wrigley, Philly 1&2 2014: St. Louis, ACL 1, Detroit 2016: Lexington, Quebec, Ottawa, Toronto 1&2, Fenway 1&2, Wrigley 1&2 2017: EV - Louisville 2018: London 1&2, Milan, Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 1&2, Fenway 1&2 2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Hamilton 2021: London 1&2 2022: Hamilton, Toronto 2023: Chicago 1&2, Noblesville 2024: Seattle 1&2, Noblesville, Wrigley 1&20
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JBob87 said:Gibson said:The way they're playing, you'd almost think they have an album to promote.We also live in a world where tickets and travel cost more than ever before. It’s valid for people to ask themselves if they really want to shell out the money for a 2 night run w more repeats than previously and 1/3 of the show being the new album due to the shorter sets.
It's a great album, and we go to shows because we love the band and want to see them. As soon as we set expectations of what we think we deserve, disappointment to some degree shouldn't be too far behind. Travel for concerts is a choice and privilege - it's not a factor for what the band should play.
Post edited by Gibson on1998: Barrie 2000: Toronto 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Toronto 2006: Toronto 1&2, Paris, Milan, Torino, Pistoia 2009: Calgary, Vancouver 2011: Canada 2013: London, Wrigley, Philly 1&2 2014: St. Louis, ACL 1, Detroit 2016: Lexington, Quebec, Ottawa, Toronto 1&2, Fenway 1&2, Wrigley 1&2 2017: EV - Louisville 2018: London 1&2, Milan, Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 1&2, Fenway 1&2 2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Hamilton 2021: London 1&2 2022: Hamilton, Toronto 2023: Chicago 1&2, Noblesville 2024: Seattle 1&2, Noblesville, Wrigley 1&20 -
50 songs played over 2 nights.
9 repeats.Of those 9, 7 were off the new album.Only 2 covers each night. *Not counting Chloe/CrownI say that’s a pretty great start.Charlotte 96
Greenville 98
Knoxville 98
West Palm 00
Atlanta 03
MSG 03
Asheville 04
Camden 06
Bonnaroo 08
Columbia 08
Atlanta 09 (EV Solo)
Seattle 09
Seattle 09
MSG 10
MSG 10
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Two of the four repeating order songs are singles, one was the album opener and was performed on both Stern & Lowe, and one is being used in playoff hockey broadcasts. It was always a given that those four were getting played every night, so what possible “surprise” is being lost? The fact you can predict where it falls in the set? Because I can predict where Release, Even Flow & Alive fall in the set too.0
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I love new stuff all good there but my problem with setlists is they used to rip off six seven eight heavy fast songs in a row which was awesome got you fired up
now it seems they prefer mostly medium to lighter stuff very rarely get that run anymore
and even then a lot of same stuff like daughter given to fly etc; they have a lot of stuff they just don’t play like go leash whipping animal even rvm0 -
devonfz said:I love new stuff all good there but my problem with setlists is they used to rip off six seven eight heavy fast songs in a row which was awesome got you fired up
now it seems they prefer mostly medium to lighter stuff very rarely get that run anymore
and even then a lot of same stuff like daughter given to fly etc; they have a lot of stuff they just don’t play like go leash whipping animal even rvm0 -
Lifted said:devonfz said:I love new stuff all good there but my problem with setlists is they used to rip off six seven eight heavy fast songs in a row which was awesome got you fired up
now it seems they prefer mostly medium to lighter stuff very rarely get that run anymore
and even then a lot of same stuff like daughter given to fly etc; they have a lot of stuff they just don’t play like go leash whipping animal even rvmI gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
mcgruff10 said:SHZA said:BF25394 said:mcgruff10 said:Four of the same songs in a row in the exact same spot in the setlist is pretty lame for pearl jam. And ending both shows with the same song? ugh.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0
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I agree with ed just slowing up I don’t mind the slow opening at all just miss that run of fast and heavy where you used to get that variety now corduroy evenflow porch dte gtf why go seem the go to …
would love stbc got some comatose whipping animal hail hail grievance kind of run during the show as an example then eight new songs five hits and a few slow ones to open that would be my ideal 24 song set0 -
BF25394 said:mcgruff10 said:SHZA said:BF25394 said:mcgruff10 said:Four of the same songs in a row in the exact same spot in the setlist is pretty lame for pearl jam. And ending both shows with the same song? ugh.And I love setting sun but to close with it two nights in a row?I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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Back in 2000, I used to bitch about too many Binaural songs. Now I'd do anything to hear God's Dice, Breakerfall, Insignificance, and others. Therefore, I'm gonna enjoy the Dark Matter songs as much as I can.11-2-2000 Portland. 12-8-2002 Seattle. 4-18-2003 Nashville. 5-30-2003 Vancouver. 10-25-2003 Bridge School. 9-2-2005 Vancouver.
7-6-2006 Las Vegas. 7-20-2006 Portland. 7-22-2006 Gorge. 9-21-2009 Seattle. 9-22-2009 Seattle. 9-26-2009 Ridgefield. 9-25-2011 Vancouver.
11-29-2013 Portland. 10-16-2014 Detroit. 8-8-2018 Seattle. 8-10-2018 Seattle. 8-13-2018 Missoula. 5-10-2024 Portland. 5-30-2024 Seattle.0 -
Milestone said:Back in 2000, I used to bitch about too many Binaural songs. Now I'd do anything to hear God's Dice, Breakerfall, Insignificance, and others. Therefore, I'm gonna enjoy the Dark Matter songs as much as I can.1998: Barrie 2000: Toronto 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Toronto 2006: Toronto 1&2, Paris, Milan, Torino, Pistoia 2009: Calgary, Vancouver 2011: Canada 2013: London, Wrigley, Philly 1&2 2014: St. Louis, ACL 1, Detroit 2016: Lexington, Quebec, Ottawa, Toronto 1&2, Fenway 1&2, Wrigley 1&2 2017: EV - Louisville 2018: London 1&2, Milan, Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 1&2, Fenway 1&2 2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Hamilton 2021: London 1&2 2022: Hamilton, Toronto 2023: Chicago 1&2, Noblesville 2024: Seattle 1&2, Noblesville, Wrigley 1&20
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Said it before, I will say it again, hopefully the people that are so horrified about this begin dumping their tickets back in to F2F, especially for the east coast shows.His eminence has yet to show.
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Gibson said:Milestone said:Back in 2000, I used to bitch about too many Binaural songs. Now I'd do anything to hear God's Dice, Breakerfall, Insignificance, and others. Therefore, I'm gonna enjoy the Dark Matter songs as much as I can.Randall's Island 9/29/96, Continental Arena 9/8/98, MSG 9/10/98, Jones Beach 8/23/00, 8/24/00, 8/25/00, Nassau Coliseum 4/30/03, MSG 7/8/03, 7/9/03, Continental Arena 6/1/06, 6/3/06, MSG 6/24/08, 6/25/08, Spectrum 10/30/09, 10/31/09, MSG 5/20/10, 5/21/10, PJ20 9/3/11, 9/4/11, Charlottesville 10/29/13, Charlotte 10/30/13, Global Citizen 9/26/15, Raleigh 4/20/16 :( Baltimore 3/28/20 :( Austin 9/18/23, 9/19/23, Forum 5/21/24, Baltimore 9/12/24, Fenway 9/17/24, Nashville 5/6/25, 5/8/250
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BF25394 said:mcgruff10 said:SHZA said:BF25394 said:mcgruff10 said:Four of the same songs in a row in the exact same spot in the setlist is pretty lame for pearl jam. And ending both shows with the same song? ugh.0
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PB11041 said:Said it before, I will say it again, hopefully the people that are so horrified about this begin dumping their tickets back in to F2F, especially for the east coast shows.0
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