*** VANCOUVER 2 - 2024 SETLIST THREAD ***

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  • Hankj25
    Hankj25 Posts: 388
    No issue with them playing repeats from DM.  It’s the first two shows of the tour and the album is 3 weeks old.  

    Was in the pit and they seemed to be having a blast.  Good energy and they still sound amazing. 

    Ed worked the crowd well.  

    I think they are leaning into some old favorites for comfort knowing the new songs probably chew up rehearsals.  I bet the Europe shows have a more modern feel to the sets.  

    Other than merch being out of most things in common sizes it was a great night.  
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,938
    JBob87 said:
    I think the repeat complaints are valid. Don’t remember them doing this before on a new album tour at the same venue.
    They did it for all of the early albums. I have every 2000 bootleg and it's "Grievance," "Insignificance," "Nothing As It Seems," "Light Years," etc., pretty much every night.
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  • Lifted
    Lifted Posts: 1,836
    JBob87 said:
    I think the repeat complaints are valid. Don’t remember them doing this before on a new album tour at the same venue.
    I dont remember them putting out an album this good either. I'm only going to make it to one show on the tour. It will be my 22nd. I hope they play the whole album. I'm actually relieved to see dark matter repeats, because I'm going to 1 of a 2 night stand.
  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    They did with Gigaton.
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  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    I dont mind the repeats necessarily but.... i didnt expect 8 out of 9 plus DTE plus alive were repeated. Nearly 50% of the show. I didn't expect the same exact order which was the bigger let down...when you don't have to guess what's next it takes a lot of the joy of that spontaneous feeling of wow. 

    If this is the result of the visualizers they can shit can them tomorrow and just use the screen for showing crowd/band 
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,876
    It may stop people doing multiple shows 


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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,205
    I dont mind the repeats necessarily but.... i didnt expect 8 out of 9 plus DTE plus alive were repeated. Nearly 50% of the show. I didn't expect the same exact order which was the bigger let down...when you don't have to guess what's next it takes a lot of the joy of that spontaneous feeling of wow. 

    If this is the result of the visualizers they can shit can them tomorrow and just use the screen for showing crowd/band 
    I don’t think any fan expects that many repeats when buying tickets to multiple shows to see Pj. I saw all 8 u2 shows at msg in 2015 and had the time of my life. I fully expected the same set. This is a little different obviously. Shorter sets, more repeats, screens:….. I dont think they maintain this all year though. I hope not. 
  • It may stop people doing multiple shows 
    I'm going to see where it goes, and have both Vegas, but it may make me reconsider a few of my feature shows if it continues. I am probably stretching myself too thin this year as it is.

    I know I would love being at the shows regardless, but different setlists are what bring most of us back over and over. The repeats plus the same order of some songs takes a lot of that away.

    These sets by themselves have been just fine, even really good, but if you combine them if four, five, six or more shows they may not be as great. But the atmosphere and being around the fans and the band won't change, so it still may be worth it overall. Like I said, we'll see where it goes. 
  • LaFleur
    LaFleur Posts: 829
    Imagine if Gigaton would  have gotten same treatment - WES, SBWM, DOTC and QE in order.  *chef's kiss
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  • OfThePearl
    OfThePearl Posts: 959
    BF25394 said:
    yeehare said:
    We'll see where this goes, but don't love the same four songs played in a row two straight nights. Kind of cool on the opener but hope it doesn't become a thing.
    I'm totally with you - too many repeats from night 1 in this set. 
    Only two non-Dark Matter repeats. Dark Matter songs are immune from repeat complaints because they have never been played before. How can I mind hearing a song twice when it has only ever been played twice?
    100% agree. 
    Plus I like that 4 song sequence and Setting Sun, A LOT.  I hope I get that at my shows.
  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    If memory serves, the spring leg of the Gigaton (2022) tour was heavy on the new album with Porch, Alive, etc and a few deep cuts. Fall shows were a lot more varied. (I went to San Diego, both LA shows, MSG and Denver)
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  • I went to both Ohana Encores in 2021 and Phoenix in spring 2022, and they played six, five, and four, respectively, from Gigaton. They played four, four, and three in the shows I saw in fall 2022.

    I said it before, I don't care if they go nuts on this album. I like it. I would rather have variety. I'd love to hear the whole thing in Vegas next week over the two shows. But I think it is weird for them to do the same four in the same order two shows in row. I hope that doesn't become a thing. 
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    I went to both Ohana Encores in 2021 and Phoenix in spring 2022, and they played six, five, and four, respectively, from Gigaton. They played four, four, and three in the shows I saw in fall 2022.

    I said it before, I don't care if they go nuts on this album. I like it. I would rather have variety. I'd love to hear the whole thing in Vegas next week over the two shows. But I think it is weird for them to do the same four in the same order two shows in row. I hope that doesn't become a thing. 
    It's a thing. They're not going to invest in the light show and screens and then not utilize it 
  • Im worried the new screen/visuals is going to tie them down to more DM songs each set. I love Dark Matter but would love more variety TBH. Albeit we’re already spoiled with variety compared to other bands.
  • While I think it remains to be seen if the screen really is going to dictate some of this, I hope it doesn't. You'd think there are plenty of ways to use the technology to account for variety.
  • Hurls15
    Hurls15 Posts: 228
    While I think it remains to be seen if the screen really is going to dictate some of this, I hope it doesn't. You'd think there are plenty of ways to use the technology to account for variety.
    I would think.  However, I doubt we will see any change until after the first leg of the tour.  

    I do wonder if dipping the toe in the big screen technology is testing the waters so to speak for a Sphere run at some point. 
  • marumaruko
    marumaruko Posts: 410
    edited May 2024
    One time I went to see a Japanese band on tour for 4 shows. They played 25 songs a night, heard exactly 28 different songs. What Pearl Jam give us is truly special. Even if there are more repeats than on the last 2 tours. They probably realized that some of the Gigaton songs didn't gel as well and they had Covid in between, so that's maybe why it was different then. Also Dark Matter is that good. Let em play. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,656
    edited May 2024
    All I can say about these two shows with the repeats is that after both of them I definitely do not feel like attending no more shows because of the relative lack of variety. It made me want badly to attend as many as possible. Was I surprised they did that 4-song sequence again in the same place in the set list? Yeah. Did it make night 2 worse or make me less interested to do it all over again, and again? Absolutely not.
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  • DEGBTI
    DEGBTI san diego Posts: 995
    wasn't there, but a valid question. Is it odd at this point of their career and catalog to get DTE both nights, same venue and start of the tour? Of all songs available how does this get played back to back? I love it, just curious if I'm just dumb, which is very possible. 
  • DEGBTI said:
    wasn't there, but a valid question. Is it odd at this point of their career and catalog to get DTE both nights, same venue and start of the tour? Of all songs available how does this get played back to back? I love it, just curious if I'm just dumb, which is very possible. 
    It's a pretty common song so who knows. It was played just about every show in 2018, for example. It has been more of an every other since then. I think in the fanviews someone posted a shot of the video board of the song, so maybe it will be in the main rotation because of that.