Is the Vinyl better ?

sSickmann
sSickmann Posts: 37
edited April 2024 in The Porch
I actually love these songs so much, but my ear can't listen to the mixes I have got (deluxe CD edition) .. The parts are all fighting each other for space and cut each other out .. I noted this the first time when I heard the first single .. I was hoping I was wrong, but I can't take it. It's giving me the sensation of being ill.

Can anyone tell me that if I buy a turntable and the vinyl version will it sound any better?
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  • Lifted
    Lifted Posts: 1,836
    The Dolby atmos version seems to be the way to best listen to it. I think Apple music has it. I use Amazon. I haven't gotten the vinyl yet, but I've heard it doesn't sound great. Unfortunately it seems that this recording needs the right tools to hear it properly, and if you don't have the right tools it's not going to sound great. If you do, it sounds fantastic.
  • JG108535
    JG108535 Posts: 187
    Sounds Tinny and Muddy at the same time. 
    Weird mix. 
    Miss that warm PJ! 

    New PJ albums always make me miss old PJ even more. The lead up is always exciting...like is this the one that they bring it back? Nope. That era is over. 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,449
    I see the tri colors are pressed as CZ (Pass). I believe the US pressings are at Furnace (which is fine).
  • RC74272
    RC74272 Posts: 28
    Lifted said:
    The Dolby atmos version seems to be the way to best listen to it. I think Apple music has it. I use Amazon. I haven't gotten the vinyl yet, but I've heard it doesn't sound great. Unfortunately it seems that this recording needs the right tools to hear it properly, and if you don't have the right tools it's not going to sound great. If you do, it sounds fantastic.
    ^ This is my experience of it. I have the black vinyl, cd, blu ray and Amazon Atmos stream. Haven’t had chance to listen to the Blu-ray yet but the stream (thru decent headphones with the volume upped) sounds great. My vinyl arrived on Thursday so have a few spins already and it’s pretty harsh and flat, somewhat fatiguing to listen to in fact particularly when the band are on full throttle around Mike’s outro solos. Gigaton was pretty lush on vinyl.
  • tylerj
    tylerj Indiana Posts: 368
    According to the fine folks at the Steve Hoffman forums, this is the most compressed, lowest dynamic range the band has ever put out. "Modern" production for ya!
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  • BloodMeridian80
    BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 725
    tylerj said:
    According to the fine folks at the Steve Hoffman forums, this is the most compressed, lowest dynamic range the band has ever put out. "Modern" production for ya!
    This is very disappointing to hear. As others have pointed out, Gigaton was a step in the right direction as far as vinyl sound. Given their love of vinyl, I don't understand how they don't ensure a high quality product.
  • tylerj
    tylerj Indiana Posts: 368
    edited April 2024
    BloodMeridian80 said:
    tylerj said:
    According to the fine folks at the Steve Hoffman forums, this is the most compressed, lowest dynamic range the band has ever put out. "Modern" production for ya!
    This is very disappointing to hear. As others have pointed out, Gigaton was a step in the right direction as far as vinyl sound. Given their love of vinyl, I don't understand how they don't ensure a high quality product.
    It's even more bewildering after reissuing Yield and VS in such a great way. 
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    Chicago, Aug 24, 2009 
    Noblesville, May 7, 2010
    PJ20 Night 1, 2011
    Cincinnati, Oct. 1, 2014
    Milwaukee, Oct. 20, 2014
    Wrigley Field, Aug 20, 2016
    Wrigley Field, Aug 22, 2016
    Wrigley Field, Aug 18, 2018
    Wrigley Field, Aug 20, 2018
    St. Louis, Sept. 18, 2022
    Chicago, Sept. 5, 2023
    Chicago, Sept. 7, 2023
    Noblesville, Aug. 26, 2024
    Wrigley Field, Aug 29, 2024
    Wrigley Field, Aug 31, 2024
  • bicyclejoe
    bicyclejoe USA Posts: 1,203
    They compressed the heck out of this album. It sounds horrible. It’s very fatiguing. To my ears, the Atmos mix is the way to go.
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  • mvw
    mvw Posts: 1,706
    It’s a shame the theater experience seemed to have it set up wrong in a lot of places or didn’t even have Atmos.  I’ve been listening to the Atmos mix at home on my home theater system  and it sounds incredible!  Atmos is definitely how this album was meant to be heard.  The difference is night and day.  
  • Choska
    Choska Posts: 125
    I prefer the vinyl version, tbh.
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    Vinyl sounds amazing to my ears
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  • Showbiz78
    Showbiz78 Posts: 44
    Is the 10C vinyl coming with a digital download and if so does anyone know which type/version of the digital album?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,031
    Lifted said:
    The Dolby atmos version seems to be the way to best listen to it. I think Apple music has it. I use Amazon. I haven't gotten the vinyl yet, but I've heard it doesn't sound great. Unfortunately it seems that this recording needs the right tools to hear it properly, and if you don't have the right tools it's not going to sound great. If you do, it sounds fantastic.

    I am not up on versions at all, but I can confirm that it sounds a lot better on Amazon Music than it does on Spotify, which I find really surprising.
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  • mvw
    mvw Posts: 1,706
    Showbiz78 said:
    Is the 10C vinyl coming with a digital download and if so does anyone know which type/version of the digital album?
    Yes.  I received an email last night with the download from 10C.  

  • Lifted
    Lifted Posts: 1,836
    PJ_Soul said:
    Lifted said:
    The Dolby atmos version seems to be the way to best listen to it. I think Apple music has it. I use Amazon. I haven't gotten the vinyl yet, but I've heard it doesn't sound great. Unfortunately it seems that this recording needs the right tools to hear it properly, and if you don't have the right tools it's not going to sound great. If you do, it sounds fantastic.

    I am not up on versions at all, but I can confirm that it sounds a lot better on Amazon Music than it does on Spotify, which I find really surprising.
    That's not surprising at all really. I use spotify and Amazon music....Amazon music presents the highest audio quality for their unlimited customers. Spotify is compressed and doesn't offer any high fidelity options. The only reason I use spotify more is because the Amazon app sucks and doesn't really even work in my car unless I connect via blutooth.
  • sSickmann
    sSickmann Posts: 37
    Lifted said:
    The Dolby atmos version seems to be the way to best listen to it. I think Apple music has it. I use Amazon. I haven't gotten the vinyl yet, but I've heard it doesn't sound great. Unfortunately it seems that this recording needs the right tools to hear it properly, and if you don't have the right tools it's not going to sound great. If you do, it sounds fantastic.

    Thank you .. I have given that one another go and experimented how to properly use my equipment .. Finally I can listen to it without retching!!!
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  • DC29940
    DC29940 Tucson, AZ Posts: 729
    mvw said:
    Showbiz78 said:
    Is the 10C vinyl coming with a digital download and if so does anyone know which type/version of the digital album?
    Yes.  I received an email last night with the download from 10C.  

    The ALAC sounds so good! Way better than regular MP3s, which I know is the point, but really impressed by how much better. 
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  • darthvedder
    darthvedder Posts: 2,693
    This thread makes me feel a whole lot better. I bought the HDTracks Hi-Res download and couldn't believe how bad the mix was. The production is downright criminal on this album. They want us to play it loud? I had to turn the volume way down just to stand it.
  • AA295481
    AA295481 Posts: 111
    edited April 2024
    Showbiz78 said:
    Is the 10C vinyl coming with a digital download and if so does anyone know which type/version of the digital album?
    I have bought other albums by other artists, sometimes they include a download of the vinyl on "we are vinyl" , you go to a site , enter the code and you can download the vinyl version.Not sure if its in the new album or not, some artists do it, others don't
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  • sSickmann
    sSickmann Posts: 37
    darthvedder said:
    This thread makes me feel a whole lot better. I bought the HDTracks Hi-Res download and couldn't believe how bad the mix was. The production is downright criminal on this album. They want us to play it loud? I had to turn the volume way down just to stand it.

    Yep I agree
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