2003 had the wildest setlists and the best playing

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  • LC
    LC North Andover, MA Posts: 307
    Awesome topic and original post.  Completely agree with all your points as I listen to the 03 boots on a regular basis, and was also at the Montreal and all 3 Mansfield shows.  I still get chills when Eddie announces the plan of attack for their 3 nights in Mansfield to not repeat a song.

    For shows I didn't attend, definitely agree on Detroit 2 and Buffalo....those shows/setlists and crowds sound electric on the boots.
    8-29-00 Mansfield, 6-29-03 Montreal, 7-2-03 Mansfield, 7-3-03 Mansfield, 7-11-03, Mansfield, 9-28-04 Boston, 9-29-04 Boston, 10-8-04 Kissimmee, 9-15-05 Montreal, 9-16-05 Ottawa, 5-12-06 Albany, 5-13-06 Hartford, 5-24-06 Boston, 5-25-06 Boston, 6-28-08, Mansfield, 6-30-08 Mansfield, 5-15-10 Hartford, 5-17-10 Boston, 7-19-13 Chicago, 10-15-13 Worcester, 5-2-16 New York City, 8-5-16 Boston, 8-7-16 Boston
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  • reedrothchild
    reedrothchild Posts: 635
    LC said:
    Awesome topic and original post.  Completely agree with all your points as I listen to the 03 boots on a regular basis, and was also at the Montreal and all 3 Mansfield shows.  I still get chills when Eddie announces the plan of attack for their 3 nights in Mansfield to not repeat a song.

    For shows I didn't attend, definitely agree on Detroit 2 and Buffalo....those shows/setlists and crowds sound electric on the boots.

    Hell yeah!  The spontaneity was terrific and the playing was so good because they were doing full 70+ show tours still. There’s so many highlights I couldn’t even get to half of them.   I just remembered at the Dallas show they also opened with Alive- the only other time they’ve gone that in the last 20 years was Newcastle I believe. 
    "What can you expect when you're on top? You know? It's like Napoleon. When he was the king, you know, people were just constantly trying to conquer him, you know, in the Roman Empire. So, it's history repeating itself all over again."
  • 3days
    3days Posts: 1,200
    I thought '03 East Troy was one of the best PJ shows I have ever seen, if not THE best. It was a magical night. 
  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,164
    reedrothchild said:
    of the last 20 years…

    The only other tour in the last 20 years that can compete with it is Canada 2005 imo. In 2003 they pretty much opened up the entire catalog  (why go, Glorified G, Deep, and Blood, all returned after long absences) at a time when they’d only put out A+ albums.  Songs (including the heavy hitters) could show up anywhere in the set and none weee even guaranteed to be played every night. They really took some classic  songs to new places like Crazy Mary, Wishlist, and RVM. And it seemed like we got a cool full band improv every few shows, which is very rare now.

    I think you are spot on. The setlists were so unpredictable and the band just sounded incredible. I have always loved Riot Act, but the songs really shined live. 

    HailHailVitalogy said:
    My first show was Uniondale
    Mine as well! Loved the show, but it was listening to the bootleg on repeat all summer that took me from fan to obsessed. 
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  • reedrothchild
    reedrothchild Posts: 635
    3days said:
    I thought '03 East Troy was one of the best PJ shows I have ever seen, if not THE best. It was a magical night. 
    That show is an absolute heater with one of the best setlists ever and the playing to match it. I used to spin that disc a ton in the day.
    "What can you expect when you're on top? You know? It's like Napoleon. When he was the king, you know, people were just constantly trying to conquer him, you know, in the Roman Empire. So, it's history repeating itself all over again."
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,139
    edited March 2024
    I think the 03 tour is only second to the 98 tour.  
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  • reedrothchild
    reedrothchild Posts: 635
    mcgruff10 said:
    I think the 03 tour is only second to the 98 tour.  
    This is a great take.  Man that 98 tour smokes and the majority of the shows were under 2 hours!
    "What can you expect when you're on top? You know? It's like Napoleon. When he was the king, you know, people were just constantly trying to conquer him, you know, in the Roman Empire. So, it's history repeating itself all over again."
  • ceska
    ceska New York Posts: 1,138
    2003 was great... You still had Yield and No Code stuff from the 98 tour (which was also phenomenal), plus all the great songs from Riot Act and Binaural.. That was the end of the Peak PJ studio + live era. 2005 Canada tour was really fun, but I would say that 2013/14 was the next live peak.
  • Niko80
    Niko80 Posts: 1,613
    I remember being quite disappointed with Riot Act at the time. I was more of less dead center on the very first row at the Perth show that year. Great show looking back, but for some reason I let my distaste for Riot Act get in the way. A hard to please 22 year old B)
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  • reedrothchild
    reedrothchild Posts: 635
    ceska said:
    2003 was great... You still had Yield and No Code stuff from the 98 tour (which was also phenomenal), plus all the great songs from Riot Act and Binaural.. That was the end of the Peak PJ studio + live era. 2005 Canada tour was really fun, but I would say that 2013/14 was the next live peak.
    I mostly agree with this- I’m a huge 2005 stan.  I do really like 2013/14 and honestly that’s the only tour since 2006 with replay value imo.  I still love going to shows, but there is almost nothing I listen back to from the current era.  
    "What can you expect when you're on top? You know? It's like Napoleon. When he was the king, you know, people were just constantly trying to conquer him, you know, in the Roman Empire. So, it's history repeating itself all over again."
  • reedrothchild
    reedrothchild Posts: 635
    Niko80 said:
    I remember being quite disappointed with Riot Act at the time. I was more of less dead center on the very first row at the Perth show that year. Great show looking back, but for some reason I let my distaste for Riot Act get in the way. A hard to please 22 year old B)
    Yeah we defiantly didn’t realize how good we had it.  RA had a few songs that didn’t really work live but it was and is miles better than any new material since.
    "What can you expect when you're on top? You know? It's like Napoleon. When he was the king, you know, people were just constantly trying to conquer him, you know, in the Roman Empire. So, it's history repeating itself all over again."
  • HK103094
    HK103094 Posts: 34
    reedrothchild said:
    of the last 20 years…


    Detroit 6/26/03: Ed was pissed at all of the corporate dbags upfront night 1 so on night 2 they played a ton of No Code and Vitalogy. 



    This is quite ironic when one considers the backlash from the high ticket prices on this year´s tour.
    2000 Oslo
    2007 Venezia
    2010 London
    2012 Oslo
    2014 Milano
    2018 Milano
    2018 Krakow
    2019 Barolo (Ed)
    2022 Berlin
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    2024 London

  • reedrothchild
    reedrothchild Posts: 635
    HK103094 said:
    reedrothchild said:
    of the last 20 years…


    Detroit 6/26/03: Ed was pissed at all of the corporate dbags upfront night 1 so on night 2 they played a ton of No Code and Vitalogy. 



    This is quite ironic when one considers the backlash from the high ticket prices on this year´s tour.
    Accurate.  The ticket prices go up and the shows get worse…
    "What can you expect when you're on top? You know? It's like Napoleon. When he was the king, you know, people were just constantly trying to conquer him, you know, in the Roman Empire. So, it's history repeating itself all over again."
  • HailHailVitalogy
    HailHailVitalogy Posts: 6,018
    Yeah the 4 nights at the Spectrum and Hartford, Boston, MSG2 2010 weren’t special enough for replay 🤦🏽‍♂️ 
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2 | 2025: Florida x2, Atlanta x2, Pittsburgh x2
  • reedrothchild
    reedrothchild Posts: 635
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    Yeah the 4 nights at the Spectrum and Hartford, Boston, MSG2 2010 weren’t special enough for replay 🤦🏽‍♂️ 
    I was at almost all of those shows.  Really fun to be at and cool setlists if you are looking for rare songs, but there was a lot of rust and not a ton of exciting playing/extending songs. Like I said shows are still fun now but i more or less look forward to catching up with old friends and the music is just a bonus.
    "What can you expect when you're on top? You know? It's like Napoleon. When he was the king, you know, people were just constantly trying to conquer him, you know, in the Roman Empire. So, it's history repeating itself all over again."
  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    reedrothchild said:
    Niko80 said:
    I remember being quite disappointed with Riot Act at the time. I was more of less dead center on the very first row at the Perth show that year. Great show looking back, but for some reason I let my distaste for Riot Act get in the way. A hard to please 22 year old B)
    Yeah we defiantly didn’t realize how good we had it.  RA had a few songs that didn’t really work live but it was and is miles better than any new material since.
    I love Riot Act, but I think I disagree here.  Lots of good material since then.  
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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    A ton of great cover songs during this tour. 
    Turn this anger into
    Nuclear fission
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,139
    Just realized I saw get right five times that tour.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • kosteva2
    kosteva2 Posts: 329
    Agree w/ the OP.

    Spring-Summer '03 was my favorite tour.  Catalog wasn't as diluted w/ the more recent albums.  Good mix of the earlier albums.  Great covers every night.  Great energy every night.  The new arrangements with Boom in the mix really worked.  Band playing at a really high level, probably their tightest since the early days given how much they were playing live.  They really started pushing the show lengths longer this tour.  Not trying to s*it on post-2020 shows but night and day difference listening to these 2003 bootlegs compared to last couple years.  Played all over NA so didn't have to put up with people on the message boards complaining how they never play near them.  

    Bunch of hall of fame level shows:  State College, MSG1, Mansfield3.  Even the next tier really good:  Spectrum, Buffalo, Holmdel, many others.  

    October '05 another really good tour too.  The Philly '05 still one of my favorite bootlegs.  No album to promote so got some very unique sets every night.
    TFC '97, TFC '98, Pittsburgh '98, Camden I,II '98, Camden I,II '00, Pittsburgh '00, Philly '03, Camden I,II '03, MSG I,II '03, Hershey '03, Reading '04, Philly '05, Camden I,II '06, Meadowlands I '06, Camden I,II '08, DC '08, Spectrum I,II,III,IV '09, Made in America '12, Philly I,II '13, GCF '15, Philly I,II '16, MSG I '16, Apollo ‘22, MSG ‘22, Camden ‘22, MSG I,II '24, Philly I,II '24
  • reedrothchild
    reedrothchild Posts: 635
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just realized I saw get right five times that tour.  
    Haha that’s a wild stat!  You could tell that was going to be one of the songs shelved after the tour was over.
    "What can you expect when you're on top? You know? It's like Napoleon. When he was the king, you know, people were just constantly trying to conquer him, you know, in the Roman Empire. So, it's history repeating itself all over again."

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