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  • yanknuck
    yanknuck Peterborough, ON Posts: 112
    I guess it's time I get that Atmos upgrade
  • QuadrupleDeke
    QuadrupleDeke Boston Posts: 168
    Will a Panasonic DP-UB820 be able to play the Bluray HD Audio tracks?
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  • mr_perfect
    mr_perfect Posts: 156
    QuadrupleDeke said:
    Will a Panasonic DP-UB820 be able to play the Bluray HD Audio tracks?
    yes 110%. i have it 🤓
  • dobyblue
    dobyblue Posts: 84
    edited February 2024
    QuadrupleDeke said:
    Will a Panasonic DP-UB820 be able to play the Bluray HD Audio tracks?

    That's a 4K Ultra HD machine, so it will play any Blu-ray released in your market or all regions coded (ABC). This release will be all regions coded as it's music, I've yet to see any Blu-rays for studio material be region locked.

    Also keep in mind Atmos will playback via whatever your speaker configuration is, whether you have just two front speakers (2.0), two fronts and a sub (2.1), quad (4.0), standard surround (5.1), or any other configuration (5.2, 6.1, 6.2, 7.4, 5.2.2, 5.2.4, 7.2.4, 9.2.6, etc), Atmos is flexible like that.

    Atmos is always mastered with dynamics intact too, so I will rip the Atmos and downmix to stereo to create what for me will be the definitive stereo version, alive like music used to be in 1991. If you have an original 1991 Blood Sugar Sex Magik CD, you know what I'm talking about - it sounds better and better the louder you crank it.

    See a graphic illustration here using Yield's lossy Atmos mix: https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/7760024#Comment_7760024

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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    dobyblue said:
    The “HD Audio” which refers to the fact it has high resolution stereo on it, may sound ever so slightly better than the CD/streaming versions if it has no peak limiting like the 24-bit download of the Ten show from 2014 IIRC vs the 16-bit version. Whether you’d pick them out in a double blind test is another story. The reason to celebrate here is the lossless TrueHD/Atmos track which will very noticeably smoke the lossy DD+JOC streaming variant of Atmos. FINALLY Pearl Jam will release one of their surround mixes in the fidelity intact. 

    Even listening in a two channel setup the Atmos mix will likely sound much better cranked than the stereo version because PJ’s studio releases still get mastered way too hot. This is fantastic news, day one preorder for me.
    I understood most of that. :)

    That said, is there a way for them to remaster their old albums, and remaster them for vinyl?
    I always thought their old albums sounded a bit muddy.  
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  • tylerj
    tylerj Indiana Posts: 368
    Vedd Hedd said:
    dobyblue said:
    The “HD Audio” which refers to the fact it has high resolution stereo on it, may sound ever so slightly better than the CD/streaming versions if it has no peak limiting like the 24-bit download of the Ten show from 2014 IIRC vs the 16-bit version. Whether you’d pick them out in a double blind test is another story. The reason to celebrate here is the lossless TrueHD/Atmos track which will very noticeably smoke the lossy DD+JOC streaming variant of Atmos. FINALLY Pearl Jam will release one of their surround mixes in the fidelity intact. 

    Even listening in a two channel setup the Atmos mix will likely sound much better cranked than the stereo version because PJ’s studio releases still get mastered way too hot. This is fantastic news, day one preorder for me.
    I understood most of that. :)

    That said, is there a way for them to remaster their old albums, and remaster them for vinyl?
    I always thought their old albums sounded a bit muddy.  
    They've done just that with VS and Yield. I'm kinda upset there's no mention that the new album is cut at 45RPM by Levi or someone else since I had hoped they had finally learned from their past mistakes of producing pretty MEH sounding vinyl for their studio albums. 
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  • dobyblue
    dobyblue Posts: 84
    edited February 2024
    The problem with Yield and Vs is they use existing masters, they're newly CUT to vinyl, but not newly mastered. They should sound very good, but they are not as dynamic as the lossy streaming Atmos versions mixed to stereo. I'm not trying to say which sounds better, that's always in the ear of the be-hear-er if you will lol, but it is pretty bassackwards that the version most suited for audiophiles, is the version with the poorest fidelity. There's a trade off here, loss of fidelity but better dynamics.

    With Dark Matter there is no trade off, because we finally get the Atmos mix in the lossless flavour of Atmos. Winner!
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,239

    Nick Rives and Josh Evans handle the Atmos mixing duties as has been the case since Gigaton.




  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,239
    https://shop.republicrecords.com/products/pearl-jam-dark-matter-deluxe-2cd

  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,802
    edited March 2024
    its funny how all these sites except one or two list the 1st track as " SACRED OF FEAR"

    copy n paste world we live in

    maybe it is Sacred of fear/ not scared 
  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    Remember Lunkin? Hehe
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  • darthvedder
    darthvedder Posts: 2,667
    CROJAM95 said:
    its funny how all these sites except one or two list the 1st track as " SACRED OF FEAR"

    copy n paste world we live in

    maybe it is Sacred of fear/ not scared 

    The CD-Text on Lightning Bolt still reads the first track as GETWAWAY
  • TL56865
    TL56865 Posts: 32
    Hey Audiophiles!   
    Would it be worth buying the Deluxe CD with HD Audio if the blu-ray disc is played via a Playstation with HDMI output into a 7.1 surround system? (It's in Onkyo receiver, but an older model, does not have Atmos compatibility.)
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,239
    TL56865 said:
    Hey Audiophiles!   
    Would it be worth buying the Deluxe CD with HD Audio if the blu-ray disc is played via a Playstation with HDMI output into a 7.1 surround system? (It's in Onkyo receiver, but an older model, does not have Atmos compatibility.)

    IMO, yes. 
  • dobyblue
    dobyblue Posts: 84
    TL56865 said:
    Hey Audiophiles!   
    Would it be worth buying the Deluxe CD with HD Audio if the blu-ray disc is played via a Playstation with HDMI output into a 7.1 surround system? (It's in Onkyo receiver, but an older model, does not have Atmos compatibility.)

     Absolutely, Dolby Atmos is backward compatible so as long as the model supports Dolby TrueHD, your surround system will play the TrueHD bed which is likely 7.1 and fully dynamic (in other words, sounding far superior to the stereo vinyl/DD/CD options)
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,239
    Selling on eBay i see ..


  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    Excited more for this than the vinyl.  

    7.1.4 Atmos system at home.  When Atmos is done with care it's incredible and adds so much to the music.  
  • JT167846
    JT167846 Posts: 992
    Nice. Was worried the deluxe version wouldn't be in that book format. Love that about the 10C albums since Avocado. Wish the earlier albums would be reissued by the 10C like that.
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  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,513
    Well, you guys talk to me into prepping my system for the Blu-ray. Can't wait for Friday
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  • Vedd Hedd
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    Do we think the blu ray will have the visualizers?  That would be great. 
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