Official 2024 Ticket Lottery Results Thread
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For clowns, sure.Choska said:0 -
I have text notifications set up on all my cards, including Chase, which is how I knew we'd won even before getting the conf emails. I also get fraud notifications texted to me. Bizarre and unacceptable that they did not notify you.Vedder4Prez said:
I called Chase and asked if any charges were attempted that were denied. They said yes 2 at $380ish. I asked why I wasn't told. They said sorry not sure why you weren't told by Chase.NickTender said:
This is what I am paranoid about, but I see no indications/alerts that a charge was denied. How does one know?Vedd Hedd said:Keep checking with your credit card companies to see if they declined the transactions. Don't wait for Ticketmaster to tell you.
10C was extremely helpful last tour, and they have been this tour too, trying to get tickets in the hands of people who lost out due to strange issues. If you were drawn, but your Credit Card declined the transaction, you may not even know it. If you find out that your card declined, contact 10C at tickets@tenclub.net and also TM at tenclubsupport@ticketmaster.com2003 Spectrum, Camden 2, Holmdel 2004 Reading, PA 2005 Philly 2006 Hartford, Camden 1&2, E. Rutherford 1&2 2008 Camden 1&2, MSG 1&2 2009 Spectrum 1,2,3,4 2010 Hartford, Newark, MSG 1&2 2013 Wrigley, Pittsburgh, Brooklyn 1&2, Philly 1&2, Baltimore 2014 Leeds, Cincinnati 2015 GCF 2016 Sunrise, Miami, Hampton, Philly 1&2, MSG 1&2, Fenway 1&2 2017 RHoF Induction 2018 Seattle 1&2 Fenway 1&2 2021 Sea Hear Now 2022 Hamilton, Toronto, MSG, Camden 2023 Indy 2024 Indy, MSG 1&2, Philly 1&2, Baltimore0 -
right, the way you present this stat is pretty meaningless...the majority of those urban areas consist of smaller urban areas, or areas known as suburban.CM189191 said:Gibson said:I'm sorry for all the folks that didn't get their hometown requests fulfilled. Please kindly remember that an overwhelming number of Pearl Jam fans don't live in major cities, meaning they will never have the luxury of a hometown show. Thus, every show is going to have out of towners that deserve to be there as much as the locals.
83% of the U.S. population lives in urban areas
NYC, LA and Chicago combined is 15.1m out of 332m ....of the 15.1m city residents, of which very few are actually going to be PJ fan demographic. Most people in their 30s, 40s and 50s have left living in the city for suburbia
The majority of the US is Suburban areas. Trying to lump it all into urban is crazy talk.0 -
Do "an overwhelming number of Pearl Jam fans live in major cities"?Gibson said:
Does Pearl Jam play all of those urban areas?CM189191 said:Gibson said:I'm sorry for all the folks that didn't get their hometown requests fulfilled. Please kindly remember that an overwhelming number of Pearl Jam fans don't live in major cities, meaning they will never have the luxury of a hometown show. Thus, every show is going to have out of towners that deserve to be there as much as the locals.
83% of the U.S. population lives in urban areas
Yes.
Have "an overwhelming number of Pearl Jam fans had the luxury of a hometown show"?
Yes.
"Thus, every show is going to have out of towners that deserve to be there as much as the locals."
While agree with your assertion, the conclusion is based on false premises.0 -
Got P1 reserved for L.A. 1 & 2
Shut out for LV 2
First time since I joined back in 1994 that I was shutout for a city!0 -
Anyone getting confirmations today?0
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jimjam1982 said:
right, the way you present this stat is pretty meaningless...the majority of those urban areas consist of smaller urban areas, or areas known as suburban.CM189191 said:Gibson said:I'm sorry for all the folks that didn't get their hometown requests fulfilled. Please kindly remember that an overwhelming number of Pearl Jam fans don't live in major cities, meaning they will never have the luxury of a hometown show. Thus, every show is going to have out of towners that deserve to be there as much as the locals.
83% of the U.S. population lives in urban areas
NYC, LA and Chicago combined is 15.1m out of 332m ....of the 15.1m city residents, of which very few are actually going to be PJ fan demographic. Most people in their 30s, 40s and 50s have left living in the city for suburbia
The majority of the US is Suburban areas. Trying to lump it all into urban is crazy talk.
What a meaningless statistic might look like:
"an overwhelming number of Pearl Jam fans don't live in major cities"0 -
Yeah, at least for a few years there we got ugly worthless t-shirts on top of it. Really miss the singles, that was worth it to me, now it's worth nothing.syzygy523 said:
Ok, this made me laugh.Choska said:
I was thinking about this yesterday - if you do get drawn in the lottery, then no complaints. But if not, in 2024, you're basically paying $35/yr to be able to download a $10 bootleg
But hey - that's luck of the draw! Cross your fingers and hope for the best! It's what we all signed up for! We know this going in!!ABQ 93, Las Cruces 95, ABQ 98, Bridge School 10/30/99, Lubbock 00, ABQ 00, Denver 03, State College 03, San Diego 03, Vegas 03, PHX 03, D.C. 03, Camden 7/5/03, NYC 7/8/03 + 7/9/03, Vegas 06, San Francisco 7/15/06 + 7/16/06 + 7/18/06, Kansas City 10, [EV:ABQ 11/6/12], Chicago 13, PHX 13, Denver 14--PJ24!, Telluride 16, Chicago 8/20/16, Chicago 8/18/18, Phoenix 22, Denver 22, Vegas 5/16/24
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SHZA said:
Everyone knows it's possible. But if the odds of it happening are 1 in 10 million, yet the actual results are 1 in 100, something is wrong.PJ and Dylan are my muse said:
This!RE4790 said:CurtisMartin said:Correct, the system is very flawed or corrupt. Simple statistics show multiple people shouldn't be winning 8 shows and others getting nothing. Time to stop wasting money on the ten club if this is how things are being handled.If every requester has exactly the same chance as every other requester at every show requested this absolutely could happen as winning a show has zero effect on winning any other show. It's even possible the same 10 clubber could have been drawn as the first for every single show.People are getting confused with lottery odds. If I have a ten percent chance to win a high demand show and win, I still have a ten percent chance of winning the next show.
but to win both, my odds are 1% (10%*10%)
We are seeing fans go four for four (ny and Balt one chance each, Philly two chances)
the odds of hitting all four assuming 10% odds are 10%*10%*10%*10% or 0.01%.
to see that happen multiple times is astounding. It’s possible but very very strange.0 -
GO WHITE!EVOLUTIONBABAY said:
GO GREEN!Black73 said:I won Chicago for Thursday 8/29. If anyone won Chicago for Saturday 8/31 but missed out on 8/29, I may be interested in swapping one of my 8/29 tix for one of your 8/31 tix. Please PM me if interested.0 -
Has anybody actually gotten an email today? I figured if nothing yesterday then we're probably just screwed and waiting to be told we're screwed.ABQ 93, Las Cruces 95, ABQ 98, Bridge School 10/30/99, Lubbock 00, ABQ 00, Denver 03, State College 03, San Diego 03, Vegas 03, PHX 03, D.C. 03, Camden 7/5/03, NYC 7/8/03 + 7/9/03, Vegas 06, San Francisco 7/15/06 + 7/16/06 + 7/18/06, Kansas City 10, [EV:ABQ 11/6/12], Chicago 13, PHX 13, Denver 14--PJ24!, Telluride 16, Chicago 8/20/16, Chicago 8/18/18, Phoenix 22, Denver 22, Vegas 5/16/24
New Mexico Pearl Jam Fans (New Mexico, USA) on Facebook!0 -
At least you got in the door. It's hard to watch people go 5/5 and 6/6 and others go 0/2 or 0/1. Doesn't feel... equitable. I preferred the ranked choice method.JOEJOEJOE said:Got P1 reserved for L.A. 1 & 2
Shut out for LV 2
First time since I joined back in 1994 that I was shutout for a city!0 -
Let's say getting GA to an individual show was 10% odds, and the odds to not bring selected at all for an individual show was 70%. The odds to get GA to any 9 out of 11 choices while not getting selected for the other 2 shows would be:
55* 0.1^9 * 0.7^2 (55 representing the number of combinations of 9 successes and 2 failures across the 11 shows)
That comes out to 0.000002695%, or
2.695/1000000000 -
How is it possible that tix are on stub hub for outrageous amounts - though these are supposed to be non transferable tickets?0
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How do we know the chance was 10% at each show?Lerxst1992 said:SHZA said:
Everyone knows it's possible. But if the odds of it happening are 1 in 10 million, yet the actual results are 1 in 100, something is wrong.PJ and Dylan are my muse said:
This!RE4790 said:CurtisMartin said:Correct, the system is very flawed or corrupt. Simple statistics show multiple people shouldn't be winning 8 shows and others getting nothing. Time to stop wasting money on the ten club if this is how things are being handled.If every requester has exactly the same chance as every other requester at every show requested this absolutely could happen as winning a show has zero effect on winning any other show. It's even possible the same 10 clubber could have been drawn as the first for every single show.People are getting confused with lottery odds. If I have a ten percent chance to win a high demand show and win, I still have a ten percent chance of winning the next show.
but to win both, my odds are 1% (10%*10%)
We are seeing fans go four for four (ny and Balt one chance each, Philly two chances)
the odds of hitting all four assuming 10% odds are 10%*10%*10%*10% or 0.01%.
to see that happen multiple times is astounding. It’s possible but very very strange.The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.0 -
Nobody knows and these math games ya'll are arguing about are pretty silly. lolknow1 said:
How do we know the chance was 10% at each show?Lerxst1992 said:SHZA said:
Everyone knows it's possible. But if the odds of it happening are 1 in 10 million, yet the actual results are 1 in 100, something is wrong.PJ and Dylan are my muse said:
This!RE4790 said:CurtisMartin said:Correct, the system is very flawed or corrupt. Simple statistics show multiple people shouldn't be winning 8 shows and others getting nothing. Time to stop wasting money on the ten club if this is how things are being handled.If every requester has exactly the same chance as every other requester at every show requested this absolutely could happen as winning a show has zero effect on winning any other show. It's even possible the same 10 clubber could have been drawn as the first for every single show.People are getting confused with lottery odds. If I have a ten percent chance to win a high demand show and win, I still have a ten percent chance of winning the next show.
but to win both, my odds are 1% (10%*10%)
We are seeing fans go four for four (ny and Balt one chance each, Philly two chances)
the odds of hitting all four assuming 10% odds are 10%*10%*10%*10% or 0.01%.
to see that happen multiple times is astounding. It’s possible but very very strange.ABQ 93, Las Cruces 95, ABQ 98, Bridge School 10/30/99, Lubbock 00, ABQ 00, Denver 03, State College 03, San Diego 03, Vegas 03, PHX 03, D.C. 03, Camden 7/5/03, NYC 7/8/03 + 7/9/03, Vegas 06, San Francisco 7/15/06 + 7/16/06 + 7/18/06, Kansas City 10, [EV:ABQ 11/6/12], Chicago 13, PHX 13, Denver 14--PJ24!, Telluride 16, Chicago 8/20/16, Chicago 8/18/18, Phoenix 22, Denver 22, Vegas 5/16/24
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Remember the phone sale before No Code tour? We have come full circle, with TicketBastard running the sale this go-round again!CM189191 said:OceansJenny said:
I did great in the F5 days 😂 a bit of a leg up being a bit younger/tech savvycurmudgeoness said:NewfieintheUSA said:
Alot of the people who won 7+ shows are people who have been in the TC along time...EBowie said:I’d like to see poll results on those who think the current system is good versus when they joined the fan club. Gee whiz, I wonder what those numbers would look like.
This was way, way, WAY better than the F5 days.
I'd rather wait in line at the Sears Customer Service counter
For you kids out there, Sears used to be....
...well, Customer Service was...
ah, never mind - get off my lawn!0 -
Exactly, extreme outcomes are possible, but the frequency of such results should be exceedingly rare.Lerxst1992 said:SHZA said:
Everyone knows it's possible. But if the odds of it happening are 1 in 10 million, yet the actual results are 1 in 100, something is wrong.PJ and Dylan are my muse said:
This!RE4790 said:CurtisMartin said:Correct, the system is very flawed or corrupt. Simple statistics show multiple people shouldn't be winning 8 shows and others getting nothing. Time to stop wasting money on the ten club if this is how things are being handled.If every requester has exactly the same chance as every other requester at every show requested this absolutely could happen as winning a show has zero effect on winning any other show. It's even possible the same 10 clubber could have been drawn as the first for every single show.People are getting confused with lottery odds. If I have a ten percent chance to win a high demand show and win, I still have a ten percent chance of winning the next show.
but to win both, my odds are 1% (10%*10%)
We are seeing fans go four for four (ny and Balt one chance each, Philly two chances)
the odds of hitting all four assuming 10% odds are 10%*10%*10%*10% or 0.01%.
to see that happen multiple times is astounding. It’s possible but very very strange.0 -
My point exactly. And never mind we don't even know how they conducted the lottery either. So it's all pointless conversation driven by misinformation and assumptions that is serving to get people irritated.High Fidelity 2000 said:
Nobody knows and these math games ya'll are arguing about are pretty silly. lolknow1 said:
How do we know the chance was 10% at each show?Lerxst1992 said:SHZA said:
Everyone knows it's possible. But if the odds of it happening are 1 in 10 million, yet the actual results are 1 in 100, something is wrong.PJ and Dylan are my muse said:
This!RE4790 said:CurtisMartin said:Correct, the system is very flawed or corrupt. Simple statistics show multiple people shouldn't be winning 8 shows and others getting nothing. Time to stop wasting money on the ten club if this is how things are being handled.If every requester has exactly the same chance as every other requester at every show requested this absolutely could happen as winning a show has zero effect on winning any other show. It's even possible the same 10 clubber could have been drawn as the first for every single show.People are getting confused with lottery odds. If I have a ten percent chance to win a high demand show and win, I still have a ten percent chance of winning the next show.
but to win both, my odds are 1% (10%*10%)
We are seeing fans go four for four (ny and Balt one chance each, Philly two chances)
the odds of hitting all four assuming 10% odds are 10%*10%*10%*10% or 0.01%.
to see that happen multiple times is astounding. It’s possible but very very strange.The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.0 -
Don't worry I'm already irritated 🤣know1 said:
My point exactly. And never mind we don't even know how they conducted the lottery either. So it's all pointless conversation driven by misinformation and assumptions that is serving to get people irritated.High Fidelity 2000 said:
Nobody knows and these math games ya'll are arguing about are pretty silly. lolknow1 said:
How do we know the chance was 10% at each show?Lerxst1992 said:SHZA said:
Everyone knows it's possible. But if the odds of it happening are 1 in 10 million, yet the actual results are 1 in 100, something is wrong.PJ and Dylan are my muse said:
This!RE4790 said:CurtisMartin said:Correct, the system is very flawed or corrupt. Simple statistics show multiple people shouldn't be winning 8 shows and others getting nothing. Time to stop wasting money on the ten club if this is how things are being handled.If every requester has exactly the same chance as every other requester at every show requested this absolutely could happen as winning a show has zero effect on winning any other show. It's even possible the same 10 clubber could have been drawn as the first for every single show.People are getting confused with lottery odds. If I have a ten percent chance to win a high demand show and win, I still have a ten percent chance of winning the next show.
but to win both, my odds are 1% (10%*10%)
We are seeing fans go four for four (ny and Balt one chance each, Philly two chances)
the odds of hitting all four assuming 10% odds are 10%*10%*10%*10% or 0.01%.
to see that happen multiple times is astounding. It’s possible but very very strange.0
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