I went 1/3, missing on Vegas N2 and Wrigley N2 but landing Wrigley N1. Hoping that we see a few more confirmations today, otherwise I'll see you all on F2F!
Keep checking with your credit card companies to see if they declined the transactions. Don't wait for Ticketmaster to tell you.
10C was extremely helpful last tour, and they have been this tour too, trying to get tickets in the hands of people who lost out due to strange issues. If you were drawn, but your Credit Card declined the transaction, you may not even know it. If you find out that your card declined, contact 10C at tickets@tenclub.net and also TM at tenclubsupport@ticketmaster.com
This is what I am paranoid about, but I see no indications/alerts that a charge was denied. How does one know?
I called Chase and asked if any charges were attempted that were denied. They said yes 2 at $380ish. I asked why I wasn't told. They said sorry not sure why you weren't told by Chase.
Chase told you they weren't sure why they didn't tell you?
Nope.. They removed it and all good to go. Didn't help being a federal holiday I feel like. but I'm .1% who got screwed so oh well
Had you given your bank a heads-up that there might be charges as the ticketing instructions suggested?
Dude the bank literally doesn't care. You can tell them, but they don't and can't do anything with that info
I called my bank and gave them a heads-up. They noted it on my account, and then they did not blink at over $2,200 in charges on my card. This is from someone who rarely charges more than $500 in a month.
That's only one data point. Means nothing. Most banks use a fraud algorithm that can't be manually bypassed
Correct, the system is very flawed or corrupt. Simple statistics show multiple people shouldn't be winning 8 shows and others getting nothing. Time to stop wasting money on the ten club if this is how things are being handled.
If every requester has exactly the same chance as every other requester at every show requested this absolutely could happen as winning a show has zero effect on winning any other show. It's even possible the same 10 clubber could have been drawn as the first for every single show.
This!
No, not this. Read how odds work for winning multiple draws, such as picking six numbers in the lottery. It’s absolutely not one in fifty, if there are fifty numbers in the lottery. If picking six numbers in six random draws, we would all be millionaires.
The chance of winning each draw is multiplied. If someone goes four for four in shows and each is ten percent, chances of winning all four is 10%*10%*10%*10%. …
(The chance of winning can be demonstrated as follows: The first number drawn has a 1 in 49 chance of matching. When the draw comes to the second number, there are now only 48 balls left in the bag, because the balls are drawn without replacement. So there is now a 1 in 48 chance of predicting this number.
Thus for each of the 49 ways of choosing the first number there are 48 different ways of choosing the second. This means that the probability of correctly predicting 2 numbers drawn from 49 in the correct order is calculated as 1 in 49 × 48. )
I was thinking about this yesterday - if you do get drawn in the lottery, then no complaints. But if not, in 2024, you're basically paying $35/yr to be able to download a $10 bootleg
But hey - that's luck of the draw! Cross your fingers and hope for the best! It's what we all signed up for! We know this going in!!
My bro in law and wives were trying to do Vegas but he got his email at like 10:30am this morning for both shows. I haven’t gotten a postive or a negative. But I’m not holding my breath.
It’s like they awarded to the individual, and whatever shows they selected, versus awarding for shows to many.
100%. All or nothing.
No, it's not. There are plenty of examples of people here who got some of the tickets they requested, but not all of them.
Some people got everything they requested. Some people got some of what they requested. Some people got none of what they requested. This is exactly what you would expect from a random drawing.
When there’s patterns it doesn’t seem like random. That’s all I’m saying. Too many people got both nights in a high demand city, while too many people got nothing. You have to admit that’s a fishy coincidence. Either way, you can’t argue this is a better system to get rid of the priority option. It allows for this to happen.
Humans tend to see patterns even in randomness. I think you're glossing over all of the people who have posted in this thread who have said that they got some of what they requested, but not all of what they requested. There's no fishy coincidence. There is a random distribution of outcomes.
Whether this system is better or worse is a separate topic that I was not opining on. I suspect that each system has its pluses and minuses.
I dont care how many times you do the lotto no one should ever win GA for for both Philly's and both Fenways on one account. The odds are insane for that to happen.
Lets say there are 400 winners for GA for Philly. 800 person pit. Sure there are singles out there but lets ignore that as it really does not change things too much.
Lets actually say only 5000 people put in for Philly GA/Res combo. I bet there were more.
400/5000
8% chance at getting GA for night 1.
Now the odds of hitting night 2 as well with those same above numbers. 0.08 x 0.08 =
0.64% chance at hitting night 1 and night 2 GA.
But wait there is more they also hit both Fenways. I think the Fenway pit is larger than Phillies but not sure by how much.
Lets say its 1500 so 750 wins since they are pairs. Lets keep 5000 as the total for how many people put in again.
750/5000= 0.15
So that gives us 0.08 x 0.08 x 0.15 x 0.15= 0.000144 or 0.0144% odds.
I was just talking with a friend and guess how many GA they got on one account. 9 pair out of 11 shows they put in for.
Want to do the math on that?
Pretty fking low
Not insane at all. Each drawing is independent. It's about a 1/10 shot for each. It can happen very easily.
GA for an individual show was 10% odds? You really think that high?
Honestly, who knows. But every drawing is independent. No matter how many in the pool for each, the same person, conceivably, could get the GA "life preserver" EVERY SINGLE TIME. Meanwhile the 12 show, any ticket person, could get missed EVERY SINGLE TIME.
There will be plenty of opportunities to get, a ticket, to a show. Maybe not MSG, Philly, Chi or LV, but if you really want to go, you will find a ticket to a venue and go. Hell, I have turned down shows because of where they are playing, the shows are getting shorter and the prices higher. There will not be a perfect system, but with TM waiting rooms, bots, scalpers, etc.; this is a pretty good system. The only thing that maybe could be done to better it is an address radius gets some sort of priority for that show (50 miles of Fenway) for example. The priority system was trash to me, others think differently.
Best of luck to all that want to go somewhere and get in the building.
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Keep checking with your credit card companies to see if they declined the transactions. Don't wait for Ticketmaster to tell you.
10C was extremely helpful last tour, and they have been this tour too, trying to get tickets in the hands of people who lost out due to strange issues. If you were drawn, but your Credit Card declined the transaction, you may not even know it. If you find out that your card declined, contact 10C at tickets@tenclub.net and also TM at tenclubsupport@ticketmaster.com
This is what I am paranoid about, but I see no indications/alerts that a charge was denied. How does one know?
I called Chase and asked if any charges were attempted that were denied. They said yes 2 at $380ish. I asked why I wasn't told. They said sorry not sure why you weren't told by Chase.
Chase told you they weren't sure why they didn't tell you?
Nope.. They removed it and all good to go. Didn't help being a federal holiday I feel like. but I'm .1% who got screwed so oh well
Had you given your bank a heads-up that there might be charges as the ticketing instructions suggested?
Dude the bank literally doesn't care. You can tell them, but they don't and can't do anything with that info
I called my bank and gave them a heads-up. They noted it on my account, and then they did not blink at over $2,200 in charges on my card. This is from someone who rarely charges more than $500 in a month.
That's only one data point. Means nothing. Most banks use a fraud algorithm that can't be manually bypassed
no matter how many times i told my bank to let me buy Indy tickets last year, it got blocked literally every time
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Correct, the system is very flawed or corrupt. Simple statistics show multiple people shouldn't be winning 8 shows and others getting nothing. Time to stop wasting money on the ten club if this is how things are being handled.
If every requester has exactly the same chance as every other requester at every show requested this absolutely could happen as winning a show has zero effect on winning any other show. It's even possible the same 10 clubber could have been drawn as the first for every single show.
Sums it up nicely I'd say to all of the naysayers
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My wife only put in for Philly N2, not N1. I guess in retrospect she should’ve also put in for N1 cause it sounds like she probably would’ve won GA for that as well. Based on what I’ve seen on here and FB, it seems like a lot of people got the same result for both nights of a two-night stand- i.e., P1 or GA. If I had to venture a guess, it sounds like what may have happened here is that the lottery may have been run for each city, as opposed to each individual show. But ultimately who knows.
Correct, the system is very flawed or corrupt. Simple statistics show multiple people shouldn't be winning 8 shows and others getting nothing. Time to stop wasting money on the ten club if this is how things are being handled.
If every requester has exactly the same chance as every other requester at every show requested this absolutely could happen as winning a show has zero effect on winning any other show. It's even possible the same 10 clubber could have been drawn as the first for every single show.
This!
Everyone knows it's possible. But if the odds of it happening are 1 in 10 million, yet the actual results are 1 in 100, something is wrong.
Any low-numbered members who really believe that higher numbers are secretly given preference are free to cancel your memberships and sign up for new ones with much higher numbers and test your hypothesis.
Or keep your account and have a "friend" enter on a new one
Keep checking with your credit card companies to see if they declined the transactions. Don't wait for Ticketmaster to tell you.
10C was extremely helpful last tour, and they have been this tour too, trying to get tickets in the hands of people who lost out due to strange issues. If you were drawn, but your Credit Card declined the transaction, you may not even know it. If you find out that your card declined, contact 10C at tickets@tenclub.net and also TM at tenclubsupport@ticketmaster.com
This is what I am paranoid about, but I see no indications/alerts that a charge was denied. How does one know?
I called Chase and asked if any charges were attempted that were denied. They said yes 2 at $380ish. I asked why I wasn't told. They said sorry not sure why you weren't told by Chase.
I have text notifications set up on all my cards, including Chase, which is how I knew we'd won even before getting the conf emails. I also get fraud notifications texted to me. Bizarre and unacceptable that they did not notify you.
I'm sorry for all the folks that didn't get their hometown requests fulfilled. Please kindly remember that an overwhelming number of Pearl Jam fans don't live in major cities, meaning they will never have the luxury of a hometown show. Thus, every show is going to have out of towners that deserve to be there as much as the locals.
83% of the U.S. population lives in urban areas
right, the way you present this stat is pretty meaningless...the majority of those urban areas consist of smaller urban areas, or areas known as suburban.
NYC, LA and Chicago combined is 15.1m out of 332m ....of the 15.1m city residents, of which very few are actually going to be PJ fan demographic. Most people in their 30s, 40s and 50s have left living in the city for suburbia
The majority of the US is Suburban areas. Trying to lump it all into urban is crazy talk.
I'm sorry for all the folks that didn't get their hometown requests fulfilled. Please kindly remember that an overwhelming number of Pearl Jam fans don't live in major cities, meaning they will never have the luxury of a hometown show. Thus, every show is going to have out of towners that deserve to be there as much as the locals.
83% of the U.S. population lives in urban areas
Does Pearl Jam play all of those urban areas?
Do "an overwhelming number of Pearl Jam fans live in major cities"? Yes.
Have "an overwhelming number of Pearl Jam fans had the luxury of a hometown show"? Yes.
"Thus, every show is going to have out of towners that deserve to be there as much as the locals." While agree with your assertion, the conclusion is based on false premises.
I'm sorry for all the folks that didn't get their hometown requests fulfilled. Please kindly remember that an overwhelming number of Pearl Jam fans don't live in major cities, meaning they will never have the luxury of a hometown show. Thus, every show is going to have out of towners that deserve to be there as much as the locals.
83% of the U.S. population lives in urban areas
right, the way you present this stat is pretty meaningless...the majority of those urban areas consist of smaller urban areas, or areas known as suburban.
NYC, LA and Chicago combined is 15.1m out of 332m ....of the 15.1m city residents, of which very few are actually going to be PJ fan demographic. Most people in their 30s, 40s and 50s have left living in the city for suburbia
The majority of the US is Suburban areas. Trying to lump it all into urban is crazy talk.
What a meaningless statistic might look like:
"an overwhelming number of Pearl Jam fans don't live in major cities"
I was thinking about this yesterday - if you do get drawn in the lottery, then no complaints. But if not, in 2024, you're basically paying $35/yr to be able to download a $10 bootleg
But hey - that's luck of the draw! Cross your fingers and hope for the best! It's what we all signed up for! We know this going in!!
Yeah, at least for a few years there we got ugly worthless t-shirts on top of it. Really miss the singles, that was worth it to me, now it's worth nothing.
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Correct, the system is very flawed or corrupt. Simple statistics show multiple people shouldn't be winning 8 shows and others getting nothing. Time to stop wasting money on the ten club if this is how things are being handled.
If every requester has exactly the same chance as every other requester at every show requested this absolutely could happen as winning a show has zero effect on winning any other show. It's even possible the same 10 clubber could have been drawn as the first for every single show.
This!
Everyone knows it's possible. But if the odds of it happening are 1 in 10 million, yet the actual results are 1 in 100, something is wrong.
People are getting confused with lottery odds. If I have a ten percent chance to win a high demand show and win, I still have a ten percent chance of winning the next show.
but to win both, my odds are 1% (10%*10%)
We are seeing fans go four for four (ny and Balt one chance each, Philly two chances)
the odds of hitting all four assuming 10% odds are 10%*10%*10%*10% or 0.01%.
to see that happen multiple times is astounding. It’s possible but very very strange.
I won Chicago for Thursday 8/29. If anyone won Chicago for Saturday 8/31 but missed out on 8/29, I may be interested in swapping one of my 8/29 tix for one of your 8/31 tix. Please PM me if interested.
First time since I joined back in 1994 that I was shutout for a city!
At least you got in the door. It's hard to watch people go 5/5 and 6/6 and others go 0/2 or 0/1. Doesn't feel... equitable. I preferred the ranked choice method.
Let's say getting GA to an individual show was 10% odds, and the odds to not bring selected at all for an individual show was 70%. The odds to get GA to any 9 out of 11 choices while not getting selected for the other 2 shows would be:
55* 0.1^9 * 0.7^2 (55 representing the number of combinations of 9 successes and 2 failures across the 11 shows)
That comes out to 0.000002695%, or 2.695/100000000
Correct, the system is very flawed or corrupt. Simple statistics show multiple people shouldn't be winning 8 shows and others getting nothing. Time to stop wasting money on the ten club if this is how things are being handled.
If every requester has exactly the same chance as every other requester at every show requested this absolutely could happen as winning a show has zero effect on winning any other show. It's even possible the same 10 clubber could have been drawn as the first for every single show.
This!
Everyone knows it's possible. But if the odds of it happening are 1 in 10 million, yet the actual results are 1 in 100, something is wrong.
People are getting confused with lottery odds. If I have a ten percent chance to win a high demand show and win, I still have a ten percent chance of winning the next show.
but to win both, my odds are 1% (10%*10%)
We are seeing fans go four for four (ny and Balt one chance each, Philly two chances)
the odds of hitting all four assuming 10% odds are 10%*10%*10%*10% or 0.01%.
to see that happen multiple times is astounding. It’s possible but very very strange.
How do we know the chance was 10% at each show?
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Correct, the system is very flawed or corrupt. Simple statistics show multiple people shouldn't be winning 8 shows and others getting nothing. Time to stop wasting money on the ten club if this is how things are being handled.
If every requester has exactly the same chance as every other requester at every show requested this absolutely could happen as winning a show has zero effect on winning any other show. It's even possible the same 10 clubber could have been drawn as the first for every single show.
This!
Everyone knows it's possible. But if the odds of it happening are 1 in 10 million, yet the actual results are 1 in 100, something is wrong.
People are getting confused with lottery odds. If I have a ten percent chance to win a high demand show and win, I still have a ten percent chance of winning the next show.
but to win both, my odds are 1% (10%*10%)
We are seeing fans go four for four (ny and Balt one chance each, Philly two chances)
the odds of hitting all four assuming 10% odds are 10%*10%*10%*10% or 0.01%.
to see that happen multiple times is astounding. It’s possible but very very strange.
How do we know the chance was 10% at each show?
Nobody knows and these math games ya'll are arguing about are pretty silly. lol
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I’d like to see poll results on those who think the current system is good versus when they joined the fan club. Gee whiz, I wonder what those numbers would look like.
Alot of the people who won 7+ shows are people who have been in the TC along time...
This was way, way, WAY better than the F5 days.
I did great in the F5 days 😂 a bit of a leg up being a bit younger/tech savvy
I'd rather wait in line at the Sears Customer Service counter
For you kids out there, Sears used to be....
...well, Customer Service was...
ah, never mind - get off my lawn!
Remember the phone sale before No Code tour? We have come full circle, with TicketBastard running the sale this go-round again!
Correct, the system is very flawed or corrupt. Simple statistics show multiple people shouldn't be winning 8 shows and others getting nothing. Time to stop wasting money on the ten club if this is how things are being handled.
If every requester has exactly the same chance as every other requester at every show requested this absolutely could happen as winning a show has zero effect on winning any other show. It's even possible the same 10 clubber could have been drawn as the first for every single show.
This!
Everyone knows it's possible. But if the odds of it happening are 1 in 10 million, yet the actual results are 1 in 100, something is wrong.
People are getting confused with lottery odds. If I have a ten percent chance to win a high demand show and win, I still have a ten percent chance of winning the next show.
but to win both, my odds are 1% (10%*10%)
We are seeing fans go four for four (ny and Balt one chance each, Philly two chances)
the odds of hitting all four assuming 10% odds are 10%*10%*10%*10% or 0.01%.
to see that happen multiple times is astounding. It’s possible but very very strange.
Exactly, extreme outcomes are possible, but the frequency of such results should be exceedingly rare.
Correct, the system is very flawed or corrupt. Simple statistics show multiple people shouldn't be winning 8 shows and others getting nothing. Time to stop wasting money on the ten club if this is how things are being handled.
If every requester has exactly the same chance as every other requester at every show requested this absolutely could happen as winning a show has zero effect on winning any other show. It's even possible the same 10 clubber could have been drawn as the first for every single show.
This!
Everyone knows it's possible. But if the odds of it happening are 1 in 10 million, yet the actual results are 1 in 100, something is wrong.
People are getting confused with lottery odds. If I have a ten percent chance to win a high demand show and win, I still have a ten percent chance of winning the next show.
but to win both, my odds are 1% (10%*10%)
We are seeing fans go four for four (ny and Balt one chance each, Philly two chances)
the odds of hitting all four assuming 10% odds are 10%*10%*10%*10% or 0.01%.
to see that happen multiple times is astounding. It’s possible but very very strange.
How do we know the chance was 10% at each show?
Nobody knows and these math games ya'll are arguing about are pretty silly. lol
My point exactly. And never mind we don't even know how they conducted the lottery either. So it's all pointless conversation driven by misinformation and assumptions that is serving to get people irritated.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Correct, the system is very flawed or corrupt. Simple statistics show multiple people shouldn't be winning 8 shows and others getting nothing. Time to stop wasting money on the ten club if this is how things are being handled.
If every requester has exactly the same chance as every other requester at every show requested this absolutely could happen as winning a show has zero effect on winning any other show. It's even possible the same 10 clubber could have been drawn as the first for every single show.
This!
Everyone knows it's possible. But if the odds of it happening are 1 in 10 million, yet the actual results are 1 in 100, something is wrong.
People are getting confused with lottery odds. If I have a ten percent chance to win a high demand show and win, I still have a ten percent chance of winning the next show.
but to win both, my odds are 1% (10%*10%)
We are seeing fans go four for four (ny and Balt one chance each, Philly two chances)
the odds of hitting all four assuming 10% odds are 10%*10%*10%*10% or 0.01%.
to see that happen multiple times is astounding. It’s possible but very very strange.
How do we know the chance was 10% at each show?
Nobody knows and these math games ya'll are arguing about are pretty silly. lol
My point exactly. And never mind we don't even know how they conducted the lottery either. So it's all pointless conversation driven by misinformation and assumptions that is serving to get people irritated.
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The chance of winning each draw is multiplied. If someone goes four for four in shows and each is ten percent, chances of winning all four is 10%*10%*10%*10%.
…
(The chance of winning can be demonstrated as follows: The first number drawn has a 1 in 49 chance of matching. When the draw comes to the second number, there are now only 48 balls left in the bag, because the balls are drawn without replacement. So there is now a 1 in 48 chance of predicting this number.
Thus for each of the 49 ways of choosing the first number there are 48 different ways of choosing the second. This means that the probability of correctly predicting 2 numbers drawn from 49 in the correct order is calculated as 1 in 49 × 48. )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lottery_mathematics
I was thinking about this yesterday - if you do get drawn in the lottery, then no complaints. But if not, in 2024, you're basically paying $35/yr to be able to download a $10 bootleg
But hey - that's luck of the draw! Cross your fingers and hope for the best! It's what we all signed up for! We know this going in!!
There will be plenty of opportunities to get, a ticket, to a show. Maybe not MSG, Philly, Chi or LV, but if you really want to go, you will find a ticket to a venue and go. Hell, I have turned down shows because of where they are playing, the shows are getting shorter and the prices higher. There will not be a perfect system, but with TM waiting rooms, bots, scalpers, etc.; this is a pretty good system. The only thing that maybe could be done to better it is an address radius gets some sort of priority for that show (50 miles of Fenway) for example. The priority system was trash to me, others think differently.
Best of luck to all that want to go somewhere and get in the building.
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6/6/03 - Las Vegas
10/5/04, 9/18/22 - St. Louis
6/29/06, 10/20/14 - Milwaukee
11/19/13 - Phoenix
4/26/16 - Lexington
Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023.
*Noblesville 9.10.2023* (Gutted)
Seattle 5.30.2024 Noblesville 8.26.2024 Chicago 8.29.2024 Chicago 8.31.2024
Pittsburgh 5.16.2025 Pittsburgh 5.18.2025
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2016-08-22 Chicago | 2018-08-18 Chicago | 2018-08-20 Chicago | 2022-05-09 Phoenix | 2022-05-20 Las Vegas | 2022-09-18 St. Louis
2022-09-20 OKC | 2023-08-31 St. Paul | 2023-09-02 St. Paul | 2024-05-16 Las Vegas | 2024-05-18 Las Vegas | 2024-08-31 Chicago
Vancouver N1 and N2- P1 reserved
MSG N1- nothing
MSG N2- P2 reserved
Philly N1 and N2- P1 reserved
Baltimore- P1 reserved
Wife’s account
MSG N1- nothing
MSG N2- nothing
Philly N2- GA
My wife only put in for Philly N2, not N1. I guess in retrospect she should’ve also put in for N1 cause it sounds like she probably would’ve won GA for that as well. Based on what I’ve seen on here and FB, it seems like a lot of people got the same result for both nights of a two-night stand- i.e., P1 or GA. If I had to venture a guess, it sounds like what may have happened here is that the lottery may have been run for each city, as opposed to each individual show. But ultimately who knows.
NYC, LA and Chicago combined is 15.1m out of 332m ....of the 15.1m city residents, of which very few are actually going to be PJ fan demographic. Most people in their 30s, 40s and 50s have left living in the city for suburbia
The majority of the US is Suburban areas. Trying to lump it all into urban is crazy talk.
Yes.
Have "an overwhelming number of Pearl Jam fans had the luxury of a hometown show"?
Yes.
"Thus, every show is going to have out of towners that deserve to be there as much as the locals."
While agree with your assertion, the conclusion is based on false premises.
Shut out for LV 2
First time since I joined back in 1994 that I was shutout for a city!
What a meaningless statistic might look like:
"an overwhelming number of Pearl Jam fans don't live in major cities"
New Mexico Pearl Jam Fans (New Mexico, USA) on Facebook!
but to win both, my odds are 1% (10%*10%)
We are seeing fans go four for four (ny and Balt one chance each, Philly two chances)
the odds of hitting all four assuming 10% odds are 10%*10%*10%*10% or 0.01%.
to see that happen multiple times is astounding. It’s possible but very very strange.
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55* 0.1^9 * 0.7^2 (55 representing the number of combinations of 9 successes and 2 failures across the 11 shows)
That comes out to 0.000002695%, or
2.695/100000000
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...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.