Plantar Fasciatis/bone spur

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  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    edited February 2014
    I hope i've not waited too long! (what therapy did you use Bentleyspop?)

    My mistake was continued running with the pain (for a few months after initial onset of said pain). I ignorantly figured I could 'run it off'.

    I only started taking it easy a few weeks ago. Stretching the area, and bought a pair of New Balance shoes.

    The new Kicks feel good, I have really flat feet, so sometimes finding the right pair can be difficult.

    (and Thanks again gimme for the info, I'm checking YouTube videos about these techniques/methods.
    I'll make some calls tomorrow)
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,045
    Idris said:

    Thanks. Looks like the only places near me offer Graston.

    Tonight, I'll be reading about this in more detail.



    yeah man, the stuff works. they have to get certified to be able to even purchase the tools they use, and there are protocols specific to each diagnosis/body part. it is not like it is some geek off the street is coming at ya with metal tools haha...
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,045

    Avoid bare feet, flip fops and Uggs boots while you are healing. Excellent info gimme. I think you and I are in the same field perhaps. Always like your input on these issues.

    we very well could be in the same field.

    thank you. i try to chime in if i think i can be of any help :)
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,406
    If you Google Plantars therapies you'll see a lot of the same things that I did. Including the earlier mentioned frozen coke bottle, the nubby ball or a golf to roll the affected foot over, and the Strasburg sock.

    And if you haven't already done it go to a true running store and get your gait checked to make sure you are in the right shoes.

    Running through it doesn't work
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,045
    running through it is the worst thing you can do. all that is doing is creating more trauma.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,045
    and just to clarify, you do not always have to have a heel spur when you have plantar fasciitis. we see people with foot pain every day who have a heel spur on x ray but no clinical history of plantar fasciitis. heel spur is a common finding in people with PF, but we see many people with PF who have no heel spur.


    abnormal x ray showing heel spur
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    normal foot x ray
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  • Riverrunner
    Riverrunner Posts: 2,419
    I had a flare up of PF 2 years ago I think. I went to a chiropractor who was certified in A.R.T. which sounds like the therapies discussed above - like deep tissue massage - to get rid of built up scar tissue. It worked. Currently I have an achilles issue which I initially thought was PF again. But it feels somewhat different. My chiro says he doesn't think the ART will work on this, and he is the one that referred me to ART initially. I took a couple weeks off from running and it still hurt so I started running again. It's funny. It doesn't hurt while I am running. It is afterwards that I have to hobble around.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,045
    ART will most likely not work on an achilles. ASTYM or Graston are very effective on the Achilles, especially when combined with eccentric exercises.
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  • Riverrunner
    Riverrunner Posts: 2,419

    ART will most likely not work on an achilles. ASTYM or Graston are very effective on the Achilles, especially when combined with eccentric exercises.

    Thanks. I'll have to see if there is anyone within 50 miles that does that.

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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,179
    Was recently diagnosed with plantar fasciitis. I'm standing on hard floors for long periods of time. At first I thought it was just from standing and the pain would go away, but then a few weeks later I noticed it was mostly on my left foot so I thought I may have twisted it or something. Went to the doctors and got an x-ray. Everything came back negative and they told me it was that. Go to physical therapy a few times a week for a few more weeks. Also do exercises at home to help. Also ice it down after work and before I go to bed. Seems to help although it's not completely gone yet.
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,808
    Stretching can help many people beat this.  I'm sure you are working on that at PT.  
    It can be very painful.  
    Some struggle to get rid of it, hope you don't.
    If you didn't already, suggest an upgrade on your shoes.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,406
    edited February 2024
    I had this year's ago.
    Had it diagnosed within 72 hours.
    Started recommended therapy immediately 
    Added in chiropractic care.
    Got rid of it less than 6 weeks.

    Some people have it for years due to lack  of diagnosis.
    Take a feezing  plastic bottle full of water and rolling it under foot works.
    Rolling a golf ball under foot works.
    Rotating hard soled shoes helps.

    I am on my feet for work 35 hours per week.
    I have multiple orthotics that I rotate through multiple pairs of shoes. I never repeat shoes in a 2 week period.
    I have become almost obsessive about foot care.

    Good luck


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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,808
    I had this year's ago.
    Had it diagnosed within 72 hours.
    Started recommended therapy immediately 
    Added in chiropractic care.
    Got rid of it less than 6 weeks.

    Some people have it for years due to lack  of diagnosis.
    Take a feezing a plastic bottle full of water and rolling it under foot works.
    Rolling a golf ball under foot works.
    Rotating hard soled shoes helps.

    I am on my feet for work 35 hours per week.
    I have multiple orthotics that I rotate through multiple pairs of shoes. I never repeat shoes in a 2 week period.
    I have become almost obsessive about foot care.

    Good luck


    Great point....I never run with the same shoes two days in a row....if you are in your feet all day you should 💯 keep trading out comfortable shoes.


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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    I have plantar s bad from my achilles injury.  Fucking sucks.  Nothing seems to work.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,179
    Stretching can help many people beat this.  I'm sure you are working on that at PT.  
    It can be very painful.  
    Some struggle to get rid of it, hope you don't.
    If you didn't already, suggest an upgrade on your shoes.
    Besides icing each foot twice a day for like 10 minutes or so I do the frozen water bottle under the foot twice a day as well for like 5 minutes each. Doctor/physical therapist gave me some exercises to do at home which are pretty easy to do and seem to be helping as well.

    My next footwear will be a little more comfortable (have to wear work boots). I did however get some Dr. Scholl's inserts which seems to be helping as well.

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,406
    Stretching can help many people beat this.  I'm sure you are working on that at PT.  
    It can be very painful.  
    Some struggle to get rid of it, hope you don't.
    If you didn't already, suggest an upgrade on your shoes.
    Besides icing each foot twice a day for like 10 minutes or so I do the frozen water bottle under the foot twice a day as well for like 5 minutes each. Doctor/physical therapist gave me some exercises to do at home which are pretty easy to do and seem to be helping as well.

    My next footwear will be a little more comfortable (have to wear work boots). I did however get some Dr. Scholl's inserts which seems to be helping as well.

    If you can get prescription orthotics. I rotate a pair of those with multiple pairs of Superfeet.
    Has worked to prevent a return for more than 18 years.
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,179
    Stretching can help many people beat this.  I'm sure you are working on that at PT.  
    It can be very painful.  
    Some struggle to get rid of it, hope you don't.
    If you didn't already, suggest an upgrade on your shoes.
    Besides icing each foot twice a day for like 10 minutes or so I do the frozen water bottle under the foot twice a day as well for like 5 minutes each. Doctor/physical therapist gave me some exercises to do at home which are pretty easy to do and seem to be helping as well.

    My next footwear will be a little more comfortable (have to wear work boots). I did however get some Dr. Scholl's inserts which seems to be helping as well.

    If you can get prescription orthotics. I rotate a pair of those with multiple pairs of Superfeet.
    Has worked to prevent a return for more than 18 years.
    Superfeet? What are those?

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,406
    Stretching can help many people beat this.  I'm sure you are working on that at PT.  
    It can be very painful.  
    Some struggle to get rid of it, hope you don't.
    If you didn't already, suggest an upgrade on your shoes.
    Besides icing each foot twice a day for like 10 minutes or so I do the frozen water bottle under the foot twice a day as well for like 5 minutes each. Doctor/physical therapist gave me some exercises to do at home which are pretty easy to do and seem to be helping as well.

    My next footwear will be a little more comfortable (have to wear work boots). I did however get some Dr. Scholl's inserts which seems to be helping as well.

    If you can get prescription orthotics. I rotate a pair of those with multiple pairs of Superfeet.
    Has worked to prevent a return for more than 18 years.
    Superfeet? What are those?

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    I had it for quite a long time, and I just started wearing ONLY sensible shoes. Flats only forever (that may be helpful to you if you ever wear any kind of heel. If not, then yeah, go for inserts). Eventually it just went away. I think it actually went away very suddenly too. It wasn't a slow recovery. One day I just woke up and the pain was gone.
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