---President Elect Musk and Convicted Felon Donald J Trump---

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,229
    2023
    OnWis97 said:
    If you search most things on Twitter, it works. If you search "Justin Mohn" nothing comes up.
    Wow, you’re not kidding. 
    This must be all that free speech Elmo is so determined to protect. 


    bummer. i wanted to see a head in a cooking pot on video....


    jfc dahmer part 2.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,613
    The field
    Sounds like Habba is out. My guess is that tRump will appeal based on bad council. 

    Interesting because I was listening to some attorney last night who said that Habba screwed him by not objecting to evidence in the trial. She continuously said "no objection" to everything being presented and now they don't really have a basis for appeal other than possibly her being a shitty attorney.
    is he trying to find an even more inept attorney??
    Probably not. But between his stupidity and good lawyers realizing what a terrible client he is, that's likely to happen.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    OnWis97 said:
    If you search most things on Twitter, it works. If you search "Justin Mohn" nothing comes up.
    Wow, you’re not kidding. 
    This must be all that free speech Elmo is so determined to protect. 


    bummer. i wanted to see a head in a cooking pot on video....


    jfc dahmer part 2.
    Idk…. Seems weird to suppress all mention / reporting of the incident. 
  • Vitalogensia
    Vitalogensia Posts: 2,206
    2023
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JesseMcK said:
    Well - I have posted quite a bit in this thread, and you don't have to read my recent responses too closely to see where I'm coming from. Do these seem like they're coming from inside a right wing bubble:
    "Fox News has always been a right wing megaphone, more concerned with winning than intellectual honesty.
    Trump voters have never cared about anything other than cultural wars that don't personally affect them."

    "OK, Fox News is full of shit. Now what? it's been full of shit for decades."

    "Cards on the table - I despise Trump, but this civil fraud case is stupid, and if he skates the unseriousness of it will be mixed into the larger stew of "everyone against Trump" narrative."

    "I mean Biden probably is the most progressive president in history other than maybe FDR, but we're dealing with a very low bar.

    He's forgiven a massive amount of problematic student loans.
    He's passed, through the Inflation Reduction Act, the most progressive environmental policy in our history.
    He pulled us out of Afghanistan.
    He changed Medicare Part D to allow for negotiation and price control on prescription drugs. 
    He tried to pass a massive policing bill which was shut down in Congress.

    I view all of these as accomplishments, but if you were hoping to have someone who had no agenda and just sent troops to the border then I guess you could be disappointed."


    It's hard to have a conversation when that's the foundation you're coming from.
    Respectfully, you joined a month ago and have largely just complained about this message board ever since. Hard to have a conversation with someone who keeps making it about himself and his grandiloquent battle with the people he claims to want to have a conversation with. 
    Nicely done!  Don't see that word very often.  
    You must not hang out in the elite circles I do.

    (Actually I have no recollection of ever seeing that word.)
    The Juggler is like our very own Oswald Bates.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ROOi5xagxg&ab_channel=DreB


    I forgot about that character!  My god, hilarious.

    The Justin Mohn story is bad, but not nearly as bad as when Kathy Griffin held up the fake decapitated head of Trump.  At least, based on conservative reaction thus far. 
    Is that for real? They really think a mock one is worse than real?
    Not per se, my apologies for the poor wording.  I simply meant there seemed to be a general reaction of outrage towards Kathy Griffin, but I've only seen right wing media reporting it, with little commentary. 
  • mickeyrat
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  • 2023
    mickeyrat said:
    More work of the dem chaos agents. And MAGAGirl forgot the ! at the end of her screed.
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  • 2023
    So much winning! Such a winner! Or is it fruit from the poisonous tree? Now, about that tape………

    U.K. High Court throws out Trump lawsuit over Steele dossier

    LONDON — Donald Trump’s lawsuit over a dossier that alleged he engaged in “perverted sexual acts” and paid bribes to Russian officials was thrown out Thursday by a British High Court judge.

    The 45th president brought a claimagainst Christopher Steele, a former British spy, and his consultancy, Orbis Business Intelligence, for alleged data protection breaches after the leak of a collection of documents dubbed the “Steele dossier.”

    The documents made extravagant allegations about contacts between Trump’s 2016 election campaign and Russian officials. Many of the claims were never proved. One said Trump had “defiled” a Moscow hotel room bed that had been used by Barack and Michelle Obama.

    Trump’s lawyers described allegations in the report as “egregiously inaccurate” and said that Trump was seeking damages for the infliction of “personal and reputational damage and distress.”

    The court did not consider the accuracy of the dossier but said that Trump’s case should be dismissed because it did not have a real prospect of succeeding.

    Trump, the front-runner for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, is fighting several legal battles in U.S. federal and state courts.

    In the London High Court judgmentpublished Thursday, Judge Karen Steyn ruled that there are “no compelling reasons to allow the claim to proceed to trial in circumstances where, whatever the merits of the allegation that the personal data are inaccurate may be, the claim for compensation and/or damages … is bound to fail.”

    She added that Orbis’s possession of copies of the dossier could not “sensibly” have caused Trump distress, not least because copies of it were floating around online. BuzzFeed published the dossier in early 2017.

    “Mere storage of the Memoranda by the Defendant cannot sensibly be said to have had any impact on the Claimant — if he was even aware of it — not least in circumstances where the Memoranda are on the internet,” she wrote.

    In his witness statement shared in October, Trump wrote that he did not “engage in perverted sexual behavior including the hiring of prostitutes … in the presidential suite of a hotel in Moscow.” He also denied taking part in “sex parties” in St. Petersburg and said he did not “pay bribes to Russian officials in order to further my business interests.”

    Antony White, a lawyer for Orbis, said Trump has made a number of personal attacks on Steele, whom Trump has called a “failed spy.”

    According to the Press Association, a British news agency, White told the hearing that Trump “has a long history of repeatedly bringing frivolous, meritless and vexatious claims for the purpose of vexing and harassing perceived enemies and others against whom he bears a grudge.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/01/trump-court-christopher-steele-dossier/

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  • mickeyrat
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  • Go Beavers
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    It still grinds my gears a bit with how the press looks back on the dossier. “Many of the claims were never proved”  isn’t accurate. Many claims were proved, a couple were disproven, and some others were neither confirmed nor disproven. They just end up feeding republican historical revisionism with Trump. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,276
    2023
    It still grinds my gears a bit with how the press looks back on the dossier. “Many of the claims were never proved”  isn’t accurate. Many claims were proved, a couple were disproven, and some others were neither confirmed nor disproven. They just end up feeding republican historical revisionism with Trump. 
    Agreed...I still cringe when some magat is being interviewed and mentions that and there is no push back.

    And the fucking Mueller report...Hello? There was so much bullshit generated on a daily basis that we've not followed up.
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    Deny, attack, reverse – Trump has perfected the art of inverted victimhood

    Sidney Blumenthal

    Trump tries to undermine allegations against him by attacking his accusers, sowing confusion and painting himself as a martyr

    Thu 1 Feb 2024 15.09 ESTLast modified on Thu 1 Feb 2024 15.42 EST

    Time after time, with predictable regularity, never missing a beat, Donald Trump proclaims his innocence. He always denies that he has done anything wrong. The charge does not matter. He is blameless. But this is only the beginning of the pattern. Then, he attacks his accusers, or anyone involved in bringing him to account, usually of committing the identical offense of which he stands accused.

    But it is not enough for him to lash out. Then, he declares himself to be the victim. Whatever it is, he is falsely accused. But his self-dramatization as the wounded sufferer is only half his story: he insists that whoever has accused him is in fact the offender. He emerges triumphant, the martyr, the truth-teller, courageously unmasking the real villain. J’accuse!

    Trump’s pattern is textbook manipulation – literally. It has a precise name given to it after decades of academic research. Jennifer Freyd, now professor emerita of psychology at the University of Oregon, developed the theory over her career studying sexual assault, trauma and institutional betrayal. She named the process by which the perpetrator seeks to avoid accountability Darvo – a strategy with the elements of denial, attack, and reversal of victim and offender.

    Don’t underestimate Nikki Haley – for starters, just look at how she gets under Trump’s skin
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    “I named the idea in the 1990s,” Freyd told me. “People can deny an accusation without resorting to Darvo. Why not just say, ‘I’m disturbed by what you’re saying, it doesn’t comport with what I remember, these are important issues, I want to understand.’ You can stick to a firm denial without being a victim. But the viciousness of the attack is intended to be silencing.”

    Freyd observes: “The people who use Darvo are different from the people who don’t … It’s a red flag.”

    Trump’s behavior in the E Jean Carroll case has been a classic exhibit. The defamation case was brought after Trump said she was “totally lying”, explaining that “she’s not my type”, about her description of his sexual assault of her in a book and a New York magazine article. He issued a formal statement from the White House on 19 July 2019: “If anyone has information that the Democratic Party is working with Ms Carroll or New York magazine, please notify us as soon as possible. The world should know what’s really going on. It is a disgrace, and people should pay dearly for such false accusations.”


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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    2023
    OnWis97 said:
    If you search most things on Twitter, it works. If you search "Justin Mohn" nothing comes up.
    Wow, you’re not kidding. 
    This must be all that free speech Elmo is so determined to protect. 


    bummer. i wanted to see a head in a cooking pot on video....


    jfc dahmer part 2.
    Idk…. Seems weird to suppress all mention / reporting of the incident. 
    Still being suppressed. And when you search for Justin Mohn Head you get all these weirdos saying the head was a prop. 
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  • 2023
    mickeyrat said:
    “Only the best people, folks, only the best people.” Pause with jutted jaw, hands grasping the podium, stare out into the audience for dramatic effect and bask in the adulation. Remember those days? Sure you do.
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