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So... why DON'T Pearl Jam come to Finland???

chadz69chadz69 Posts: 21
edited January 2008 in Given To Fly (live)
Ok... so we all heard it on the DVD, and Finn's all KNOW that Pearl Jam skip us, going from Norway, Denmark and Sweden to Slovenia or Southern Europe... or just ending their tour in Scandinavia without visiting Finland....Why?? Is it the cost of visiting there for a day?

In 2000 they skipped the Nation of nearly six million, travelling from Slovenia to Sweden and Norway. They also once ended their tour in Denmark without seeing Finland, returning home for a show 2 scheduled months later. There are many Pearl Jam fans in Finland (see Immagine in Cornice!) Are they the only EU Nation NEVER to have had Pearl Jam???
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    dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    its because it costs $8.2billion for a bottle of wine and your national dish is probably cold herring. ;)


    they never come here either amigo... and Castle Fuckula looks awesome these days :)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
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    chadz69chadz69 Posts: 21
    ACTUALLY it's only around thirty euros for a decent bottle of red (unless you like that Australian "Yellow Tail" shit...around six euro's... but thirty euro is still a fucking LOT!

    However, with Finland's green credentials, their penchant for wierdo's who take off into the wild to live with serious ass brown bears, and their amazing never dying love of music, Pearl Jam SHOULD stop there at least once, before they call it a day! Maybe in the European Summer... ! Norway! Pah, EVERYONE does Oslo... No-One goes to Finland... But why??? It's a beautiful country! And the CHICKS!

    :-)


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    chadz69chadz69 Posts: 21
    Is it really called Castle Fuckula or is that a wild porn movie location???
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    RicsardRicsard Posts: 1,942
    chadz69 wrote:
    Are we the only EU Nation NEVER to have had Pearl Jam???

    No, you aren't, try to think about Bulgaria and Romania :) plus Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, Cyprus, Luxemburg and Slovakia :rolleyes:

    no offence but I just tried to answer your questions and it turned out your country is not alone!

    Of course I understand your reactions and I DO think Finland does not deserve such an outrageous torture or "fast" - call it what you want! I was wondering if there are some fucked up promoters in Finland (just like here in Hungary) who doesn't give shit about music qualities... :(

    Pearl Jam has played here in Hungary in 1996, since then they cancelled a show in 2000 (remember that legendary second performance in Katowice??? that was because of us!)
    and after that there was no other PJ shows either. Hungarian fans have had to travel to Austria, Germany, Holland, Belgium, Poland, Great-Britain, Spain, Czech Republic or even to USA and Canada which were DEFINITELY quite expensive journeys for poor Eastern Europeans like us...(all of them were worthwhile of course)

    And the list is pretty long btw
    no Oasis since 2000,
    no Metallica since 1999,
    no RHCP since 1996,
    no PJ since 1996 (once again!!!:mad:,
    no U2 since 1993,
    no Springsteen since 1987 etc.!!!


    PS.: I reckon the curse is on us, finno-ugrians...;)
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    BunuelBunuel Posts: 35
    I feel your pain as a finn, man. I don't think that they'll come back to Europe this year but hopefully in 2009 or 2010 and Finland too.

    btw, PJ has been in Finland once. But there is no bootleg and i belive that no one from this messsage pit was there.

    " 06/30/93 - Jäähalli : Helsinki, Finland [41m]
    attendance: 8,000
    supporting: Neil Young
    set: Animal, Even Flow, Why Go, Jeremy, Glorified G, Daughter, Black, Alive, Porch/(Across the Universe)/(Fuckin' Up)
    notes: Opening with a good version of 'Animal,' a typical 'Even Flow' with a short, ripping solo by Mike follows. Ed is having problems with his voice and is using accentuated talking in place of singing at times. 'Why Go' begins with an unusually long introduction. 'Glorified G' is warmly received by the crowd. Afterward, Ed finally speaks to the audience, announcing 'Daughter,' which is performed with a particularly delicate, gentle tone and no tags. 'Black' is now performed with an absence of emotion that was present only six months prior, and segues neatly into a canned version of 'Alive.' Before 'Porch,' Ed says, "I promise not to come back until I have a voice," yet 'Porch' is delivered adequately, and tags are borrowed: the lyrics "Nothing is going to change my world" (The Beatles' 'Across the Universe') and "Why do I keep fuckin' up" (Neil Young's 'Fuckin' Up') are chanted."
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    xkevvxxkevvx Posts: 348
    Because they heard all people from Finland are whiny bitches like you...


    Just kidding!!! If Pearl Jam never played a show in my country, I'd be upset too...
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    If Finland the one shaped like a boot? Wait.. nvm.

    j/k :P
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    chadz69chadz69 Posts: 21
    xkevvx wrote:
    Because they heard all people from Finland are whiny bitches like you.....


    Man! What a low blow.... Anyway, as a good comment does, mine was meant to provoke a bit of clever thought and discussion... which it clearly has (with some exception)

    And I'm actually Australian, so there goes that whiny bitch theory of yours, but travelled through Scandinavia and the Baltics, and my fav destination was Helsinki. Crazy people, great nightlife, healthy food, and several Pearl Jam T-Shirts walking around downtown... a beautiful, clean harbour city.

    But I AM surprised to hear about the '93 show in Helsinki... I'll throw that up next time a Finn tells me we're lucky to have PJ in Oz every third year! Wonder if there are any Helsinki T-shirts or posters around... :-)
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    Fu_ManchuFu_Manchu Posts: 422
    I believe there is a bootleg of this show.
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    For a band to tour a country, they need a promoter willing to bring them over. For a band like PJ, they need a promoter willing to guarantee them whatever their asking price is. Best guess: the band's guarantee to play is too high for promoters in Finland to risk their hats on or all the promoters in Finland are thick or the band think one or two shows in the general region of Scandinavia will suffice.

    Randall
    My Pearl Jam shows: 1 in 1995, 2 in 1998, 20 in 2003, 13 in 2006, 3 in 2007, 8 in 2008, 5 in 2009, 4 in 2010, 5 in 2012. EV: 8 in 2011, 1 in 2012. Brad: 1 in 1998, 1 in 2002.
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    BunuelBunuel Posts: 35
    I believe there is a bootleg of this show.

    Really? Do you have it or how do you know that?
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    I was in Finland one November - it is one depressing(And expensive) place in the winter months. Maybe Pearl Jam's mates have been there in the winter and suggested that it's one to stay clear of. Although, I think the promoter issue is a little more likely.

    Hungary is one beautiful country, but my short experience resulted in a feeling that they really have a problem with tourists. I don;t think there was one native I met who wasn't trying to fuck us over. Granted it was mostly Budapest and the rest of the country might be better but even the train guards were corrupt, and I've heard a lot of people say the same thing.

    I'm not trying to diss these countries, but it only takes one bad experience, or a reputation of bad experiences to make bands decide its not worth the effort.
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    RicsardRicsard Posts: 1,942
    Hungary is one beautiful country, but my short experience resulted in a feeling that they really have a problem with tourists. I don;t think there was one native I met who wasn't trying to fuck us over. Granted it was mostly Budapest and the rest of the country might be better but even the train guards were corrupt, and I've heard a lot of people say the same thing.


    I know the situation here, yeah, I feel ashamed of what happened to you, many people here have to learn about the basic rules of business/tourism and long term investments - unfortunately this situation is quite typical here in Eastern Europe, people work 10-12 hours or more a day (!!!!), pay terribly high taxes and bills however our salary is just 1/8 or 1/10 of the people in Western/Northern Europe. People want to get rich as soon as possible...
    Personally me and my friends don't belong to that category of hyenas - I don't have money and don't care about it - only if Pearl Jam, Depeche Mode, U2, Rage A.T.M. etc is on the road, you know.
    I'm not trying to diss these countries, but it only takes one bad experience, or a reputation of bad experiences to make bands decide its not worth the effort.

    I am pretty sure these things have nothing got to do with promoting here, believe me. It's about the money that the promoters want to cash in by high ticket prices (as much and as soon as possible!)
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    Ricsard wrote:
    I know the situation here, yeah, I feel ashamed of what happened to you, many people here have to learn about the basic rules of business/tourism and long term investments - unfortunately this situation is quite typical here in Eastern Europe, people work 10-12 hours or more a day (!!!!), pay terribly high taxes and bills however our salary is just 1/8 or 1/10 of the people in Western/Northern Europe. People want to get rich as soon as possible...
    Personally me and my friends don't belong to that category of hyenas - I don't have money and don't care about it - only if Pearl Jam, Depeche Mode, U2, Rage A.T.M. etc is on the road, you know.

    It's not a huge problem to me, I would go back to Hungary, but I make a very quick decision to keep my hands in my pockets and spend the bare minimum. This reputation of going for short term gain from the tourists probably costs the country millions a year. You could say the same things about public transport in the UK. If I was a tourist, it would be a serious decider that a trip to Scotland becomes expensive and time consuming because the transport infrastructure just isn't here.

    As for the rest of Eastern europe, I find them much more welcoming to tourists. I have issues with Polish tourist information offices in train stations in my short experience, and bulgarian taxi drivers are best avoided but in general I don't get a feeling of a mass war on tourists.
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