Pearl Jam's new album ”Dark Matter” ! Single out!

dwjmu84 said:

igotid88 said:

CROJAM95 said:

And the songs you put out as greatest hits part 2, like most

but jeez man, are these hits??? Maybe 1 or 2

Like I stated. I didn't just pick random songs that I like. These are songs that either charted on the Hot 100 or Rock/Alternative/AAA charts.  Am I saying they're Jeremy level? No. But they're hits nonetheless.

And I'm talking U.S. charts

And not every song on RVM is known outside the fanbase. Maybe 14 or 15 of the 33 songs 

I think what we’re all getting at is you use the term “hit” very loosely. Maybe you’re technically correct in that it “charted”. But, you’re either fairly new to this Pearl Jam thing, or you’re in the 1% of people who DIDN’T think CDM was a big fat turd.

Think about it. They were likely planning to have it on Gigaton (or whatever Gigaton was at that point) and the fan reaction completely scrapped it. That’s a 1 of 1 in PJ history. It’s never happened. So, the song was pure trash and they realized it, went back to work, and gave us a pretty decent album instead. 

Songs that are tested and later thrown in the trash don’t wind up on “greatest hits” (a terrible idea to begin with).

People here hate Last Kiss. It was still a hit.

Tim Simmons said:

IF there is another greatest hits/best of album it’s gonna be a reboot. Something akin to U217, where it’s their most massive hits with the bigger post Epic songs (and it will basically be maybe 1 per record and you can probably guess the songs).

But also, there’s no need for best of anymore because of streaming. Yes this fanbase is older and still occasionally purchase physical. But the kids coming up are gonna buy Rearviewmirror if they want an intro to the band on physical if not just straight buy the records.  

BF25394 said:

Whether something is a "hit" is a bit semantic, especially when comparing different eras. "I Got ID/Long Road" may have been a No. 7 Hot 100 "hit," but it was not a hit in the conventional sense. It charted that high almost entirely on the basis of first-week sales of the physical single. It never received widespread radio airplay, and dropped off the Hot 100 relatively quickly. (It's a bit like when Taylor Swift or Drake release a new album and every track charts in the top 10. Those songs aren't all "hits" in the conventional sense just because they're in the top ten. Most of them will drop like rocks once the surge of first-week streaming ends. Only the songs that are receiving radio airplay stick around as true hits.) In the context of 1995, where radio (and/or MTV airplay) signified a hit, "I Got ID" wasn't a hit. "Last Kiss," on the other hand, was a hit by any measure. It peaked at No. 2, remained on the chart for months, and received widespread airplay.

Some of the songs that are thought of as Pearl Jam's biggest "hits" are hits of a different variety than "Last Kiss." Think "Alive," "Even Flow," "Better Man," "Jeremy," "Black," "Daughter" and "Corduroy." These songs received significant pop radio airplay-- but not as much as some of us might think. None of them reached the top 10 in airplay. They received more airplay at rock radio, but rock radio had/has a smaller audience than pop radio does/did in the early '90s. But from the vantage point of a lot of us, these songs were ubiquitous because they were being played on the stations we listened to, the videos (for three of the songs) were in heavy rotation on MTV, and people in our social circles were also listening to it. We were less likely to be aware of the general pop music audience that was hearing these songs much less often, if at all.

Then there are the genre hits, like "World Wide Suicide," which spent five weeks (if i recall correctly) at No. 1 at rock radio and peaked at No. 41 on the Hot 100. That's actually a higher peak than any of the big Ten hits, but the way the charts have been calculated has changed so drastically and repeatedly between 1991 and 2023 that it's an apples-and-oranges comparison.

BF25394 said:

Whether something is a "hit" is a bit semantic, especially when comparing different eras. "I Got ID/Long Road" may have been a No. 7 Hot 100 "hit," but it was not a hit in the conventional sense. It charted that high almost entirely on the basis of first-week sales of the physical single. It never received widespread radio airplay, and dropped off the Hot 100 relatively quickly. (It's a bit like when Taylor Swift or Drake release a new album and every track charts in the top 10. Those songs aren't all "hits" in the conventional sense just because they're in the top ten. Most of them will drop like rocks once the surge of first-week streaming ends. Only the songs that are receiving radio airplay stick around as true hits.) In the context of 1995, where radio (and/or MTV airplay) signified a hit, "I Got ID" wasn't a hit. "Last Kiss," on the other hand, was a hit by any measure. It peaked at No. 2, remained on the chart for months, and received widespread airplay.

Some of the songs that are thought of as Pearl Jam's biggest "hits" are hits of a different variety than "Last Kiss." Think "Alive," "Even Flow," "Better Man," "Jeremy," "Black," "Daughter" and "Corduroy." These songs received significant pop radio airplay-- but not as much as some of us might think. None of them reached the top 10 in airplay. They received more airplay at rock radio, but rock radio had/has a smaller audience than pop radio does/did in the early '90s. But from the vantage point of a lot of us, these songs were ubiquitous because they were being played on the stations we listened to, the videos (for three of the songs) were in heavy rotation on MTV, and people in our social circles were also listening to it. We were less likely to be aware of the general pop music audience that was hearing these songs much less often, if at all.

Then there are the genre hits, like "World Wide Suicide," which spent five weeks (if i recall correctly) at No. 1 at rock radio and peaked at No. 41 on the Hot 100. That's actually a higher peak than any of the big Ten hits, but the way the charts have been calculated has changed so drastically and repeatedly between 1991 and 2023 that it's an apples-and-oranges comparison.

kmcmanus said:

Ok, they are all hits. Even Can’t Deny Me. There’s your bone. Merry Christmas.
But Greatest Hits packages aren’t for die-hards, they are for casuals. And casuals don’t care about the post-Epic material. It would not sell well enough to justify doing it. Because if it would, they probably would have done it by now.