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    gift article....


      Special counsel alleges Trump ‘sent’ supporters on path to Jan. 6 violence
    By Spencer S. Hsu and Devlin Barrett
    December 05, 2023 at 13:56 ET
    Federal prosecutors on Tuesday accused former president Donald Trump of a long pattern of lying about elections and encouraging violence, saying he “sent” supporters on Jan. 6, 2021 to criminally block the election results.
    In a new court filing, prosecutors working for special counsel Jack Smith went further than in their August indictment in attempting to tie him to that day’s violence, saying they intended to introduce evidence of his other acts both before the November 2020 presidential election and subsequent alleged threats to establish his motive, intent and preparation for subverting its legitimate results.
    “Evidence of the defendant’s post-conspiracy embrace of particularly violent and notorious rioters is admissible to establish the defendant’s motive and intent on January 6 — that he sent supporters, including groups like the Proud Boys, whom he knew were angry, and whom he now calls ‘patriots,’ to the Capitol to achieve the criminal objective of obstructing the congressional certification,” prosecutors alleged in a nine-page filing.
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    They added, “At trial, the Government will introduce a number of public statements by the defendant in advance of the charged conspiracies, claiming that there would be fraud in the 2020 presidential election,” laying the “foundation for the defendant’s criminal efforts.”
    Attorneys for Trump did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
    Trump has pleaded not guilty to all charges in what prosecutors say was a broad conspiracy to subvert the 2020 election by spewing a gusher of lies about purported election fraud and trying to get state local and federal officials to change the legitimate results to remain in power.

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    https://apnews.com/article/trump-capitol-riot-immunity-9528a29b2dbebb6ee4a4ebd26780f98c   Trump appeals ruling rejecting immunity claim as window narrows to derail federal election case

     
    Trump appeals ruling rejecting immunity claim as window narrows to derail federal election case
    By ALANNA DURKIN RICHER and ERIC TUCKER
    2 mins ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Former President Donald Trump is appealing a ruling that found he is not immune from criminal prosecution as he runs out of time to delay or even derail an upcoming trial on charges that he plotted to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

    Lawyers for the 2024 Republican presidential primary frontrunner filed a notice of appeal Thursday indicating that they will challenge U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan's decision rejecting Trump's bid to derail the case headed to trial in Washington, D.C., in March. The one-page filing was accompanied by a request from the Trump team to put the case on pause so the appeals court can take up the matter.

    “The filing of President Trump’s notice of appeal has deprived this Court of jurisdiction over this case in its entirety pending resolution of the appeal,” Trump's lawyers wrote. “Therefore, a stay of all further proceedings is mandatory and automatic.”

    The appeal had been expected given that Trump's lawyers had earlier signaled their plans to pursue all the way to the Supreme Court, if necessary, what they say is a legally untested question of a former president's immunity from prosecution. The argument that Trump was immune from prosecution for actions taken within his role as president had been seen as perhaps the most weighty and legally consequential objections to the case made by the Trump lawyers ahead of trial.

    But now that the argument has already been rejected by the trial judge, Trump's best hope at delaying the trial appears to be convincing the D.C. Circuit or the Supreme Court to pause the case while the higher courts consider his prosecutorial immunity claim.

    However, the rejection last week by a three-judge panel of the appeals court of Trump’s sweeping claims of immunity in civil cases accusing him of inciting the U.S. Capitol riot on Jan. 6, 2012, suggest he likely faces an uphill battle before that court. While it’s possible the Supreme Court may feel compelled to step in to address an unprecedented legal question, there’s also no guarantee the justices will take the case up at this stage.

    And though it typically takes months for appeals to wind their way through higher courts, the D.C. Circuit and the Supreme Court could quickly resolve the question of immunity if the judges want to, said Jessica Roth, a Cardozo School of Law professor who has been following the case.

    “It’s a very clean, narrow legal issue, and the issue has been fully briefed by the parties and very well laid out in the opinion so it’s not like considerable time is needed,” she said. “It’s a purely legal question that the courts could expedite and decide quickly.”

    Trump's lawyers have asserted that he cannot face criminal charges because the actions spelled out in the indictment fell within his duties as president.

    But Chutkan said that nothing in the Constitution nor American history justifies cloaking former presidents with immunity from prosecution for actions they took while in office.

    “Defendant's four-year service as Commander in Chief did not bestow on him the divine right of kings to evade the criminal accountability that governs his fellow citizens,” Chutkan, an appointee of President Barak Obama, wrote in her ruling earlier this month.

    While the Supreme Court has held that presidents are immune from civil liability for actions within the scope of their their official duties, courts have never before had to grapple with the question of whether that immunity extends to criminal prosecution.

    Cheryl Bader, a former federal prosecutor, said she believes the immunity argument will be a losing battle for Trump, even before the conservative-majority Supreme Court.

    “I think based on the law and there being no constitutional provision giving former presidents immunity and based on the policy that we don’t want to have former presidents being able to commit crimes ... I don’t see how this ruling gets reversed,” said Bader, head of Fordham University Law School’s Criminal Defense Clinic.

    “This decision really put Trump in his place, it basically said he’s not a monarch and once he leaves office he gets no special treatment in the halls of justice,” Bader said.

    The case charges Trump with conspiring to subvert the will of voters in a desperate bid to cling to power after he lost the 2020 presidential election to Democrat Joe Biden. It is the first of four criminal cases Trump is facing that's scheduled to go to trial, though it's possible the appeal of the immunity issue could delay the case.

    Special counsel Jack Smith has separately charged Trump in Florida with illegally hoarding classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate after he left the White House. Trump is also charged in Georgia with conspiring to overturn his election loss to Biden. And he faces charges in New York related to hush money payments made during the 2016 campaign. He has denied any wrongdoing.


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    https://apnews.com/article/trump-capitol-riot-gag-order-33f75551e369b43cc903ad9f2c5d9439   Appeals court upholds gag order on Trump in Washington case but narrows restrictions on his speech

     
    Appeals court upholds gag order on Trump in Washington case but narrows restrictions on his speech
    By ALANNA DURKIN RICHER and ERIC TUCKER
    Yesterday

    WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal appeals court in Washington largely upheld a gag order on Donald Trump in his 2020 election interference case on Friday, but narrowed the restrictions on his speech to allow the former president to criticize the special counsel who brought the case.

    The three-judge panel's ruling modifies the gag order, permitting the Republican 2024 presidential front-runner to make disparaging comments about special counsel Jack Smith, but it reimposes limits on what he can say about known or reasonably foreseeable witnesses in the case and about court staff and other lawyers.

    The unanimous ruling is mostly a win for Smith's team, with the judges agreeing with prosecutors that Trump's often-incendiary comments about participants in the case can have a damaging practical impact and rejecting claims by defense attorneys that restrictions on the ex-president's speech amount to an unconstitutional muzzling. It lays out fresh parameters about what Trump can and cannot say about the case as he both prepares for a March trial and campaigns to reclaim the White House.

    "Mr. Trump’s documented pattern of speech and its demonstrated real-time, real-world consequences pose a significant and imminent threat to the functioning of the criminal trial process in this case,” Judge Patricia Millett wrote for the court. She noted that many of the targets of Trump's verbal jabs “have been subjected to a torrent of threats and intimidation from his supporters.”

    The case accuses Trump of plotting with his Republican allies to subvert the will of voters in a desperate bid to stay in power in the run-up to the Capitol riot by his supporters on Jan. 6, 2021. It is scheduled to go to trial in March in Washington’s federal court, just blocks away from the Capitol.

    Friday's opinion says that though Trump has a constitutional right to free speech and is a former president and current candidate, "he is also is also an indicted criminal defendant, and he must stand trial in a courtroom under the same procedures that govern all other criminal defendants.

    “That,” Millett wrote, "is what the rule of law means.”

    Even so, the court took steps to narrow the order imposed in October by U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan, which in addition to barring inflammatory comments about Smith, other lawyers and court staff also restricted Trump's right to target witnesses.

    The appellate judges ruled that that part of the order was overly broad, freeing Trump to talk to or about potential witnesses — including about their books, interviews and political campaigns — provided that the comments are not about those people's potential participation in the investigation or trial or about the content of any expected testimony.

    “The interest in protecting witnesses from intimidation and harassment is doubtless compelling, but a broad prohibition on speech that is disconnected from an individual’s witness role is not necessary to protect that interest, at least on the current record,” the court wrote.

    “Indeed,” the opinion says, “public exchanges of views with a reasonably foreseeable witness about the contents of his forthcoming book are unlikely to intimidate that witness or other potential witnesses weighing whether to come forward or to testify truthfully.”

    The appeals court also said that a comment on court staff, other lawyers or their family members was off-limits “to the extent it is made with either the intent to materially interfere with their work or the knowledge that such interference is highly likely to result.”

    The judges, all appointees of either former President Barack Obama or President Joe Biden, had signaled during oral arguments last month that they were inclined to leave the gag order intact but also narrow it.

    One significant amendment to the original order is a lifting on a prohibition of verbal attacks on Smith, who has been a frequent target of Trump's ire since being appointed by the Justice Department in November 2022 to lead investigations into the former president.

    "As a high-ranking government official who exercises ultimate control over the conduct of this prosecution, the special counsel is no more entitled to protection from lawful public criticism than is the institution he represents,” the court wrote.

    In a social media post responding to the ruling, Trump said his team would appeal, and he complained anew about restrictions on his speech.

    “In other words, people can speak violently and viciously against me, or attack me in any form, but I am not allowed to respond, in kind," he said. "What is becoming of our First Amendment, what is becoming of our Country?”

    Chutkan, who was appointed by President Obama, imposed the gag order following a request from prosecutors, who cited Trump's pattern of incendiary comments, including one social media post that said in capital letters, "If you go after me, I’m coming after you!” The prosecutors said restrictions were necessary to protect the integrity of the case and shield potential witnesses and others involved in the case from harassment and threats inspired by Trump’s social media posts.

    The order has had a back-and-forth trajectory through the courts since prosecutors proposed it, with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit lifting it while considering Trump's challenge.

    The special counsel has separately charged Trump in Florida with illegally hoarding classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate after he left the White House following his 2020 election loss to Democrat Joe Biden. That case is set for trial next May, though the judge has signaled that the date might be postponed.

    Trump has denied any wrongdoing and has claimed the cases against him are part of a politically motivated effort to keep him from returning to the White House.


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    purposeful and willful as a test as to whether the court has the will to enforce the order

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  • mickeyrat said:
    purposeful and willful as a test as to whether the court has the will to enforce the order

    Lock. Him. Up.
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  • gimmesometruth27
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    mickeyrat said:
    purposeful and willful as a test as to whether the court has the will to enforce the order

    of course he violated it. this is what happens when you let this man run free for nearly 3 years with no accountability.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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  • gimmesometruth27
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    mickeyrat said:
    i am waiting for the sc to quickly rule in favor of trump. because you know that is how it is going to go.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mickeyrat
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    mickeyrat said:
    i am waiting for the sc to quickly rule in favor of trump. because you know that is how it is going to go.
    dont know about that. he wasnt charged while potus. nothing in the Constitution says he cant be charged post-potus.  mueller established or stayed doj rules regarding this and wrote in the report that doj could according to understood policy.... and this same court has turned down several cases and ruled against fuckstick a couple times.

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