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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,703
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJammin' said:
    Jimmydean55 said:
    I just wish Ed would stop over enunciating. 
    Yeah, Ed has picked up some bad habits that he didn’t do when he had a younger voice. He does this movement with his jaw when he sings that he didn’t do in the past. I don’t like it at all.  
    yeah, I first noticed it on backspacer. wonder where he picked that up. or if it was a necessary adjustment based on something like aging or whatever. 
    Pretty sure it's vocal training. It must help him hit notes
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  • cmikehelton
    cmikehelton Posts: 242
    PJammin' said:
    Jimmydean55 said:
    I just wish Ed would stop over enunciating. 
    Yeah, Ed has picked up some bad habits that he didn’t do when he had a younger voice. He does this movement with his jaw when he sings that he didn’t do in the past. I don’t like it at all.  
    Trying to protect his voice.. if he kept singing the way he did in the 90s he'd be done.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,646
    Do you have an example of this?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,002
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Do you have an example of this?
    at 1:02 in this video. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTb9GNIxpMk
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,646
    edited September 2023
    Ah. I always seen that "jaw" thing as an artistic choice to give the singing some... eh... hmm.... "twang"? A showman-thing and to not have the song melody too straight forward...
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  • PJammin'
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Do you have an example of this?
    at 1:02 in this video. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTb9GNIxpMk
    It won’t play. What song?
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  • PJammin'
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    cmikehelton said:
    PJammin' said:
    Jimmydean55 said:
    I just wish Ed would stop over enunciating. 
    Yeah, Ed has picked up some bad habits that he didn’t do when he had a younger voice. He does this movement with his jaw when he sings that he didn’t do in the past. I don’t like it at all.  
    Trying to protect his voice.. if he kept singing the way he did in the 90s he'd be done.
    No, I’m not saying he needed to keep singing like the 90s. He still sounds great for where he is at this point in life, but I just noticed he does certain little things now that I don’t prefer. That’s all. I’d have to find an example…but it doesn’t matter. 
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  • BrainofBGA
    BrainofBGA Australia Posts: 4,562
    Hopefully we might start to hear a thing or two about the album before the end of the year I.e single? Track listing? Name? More interviews about the upcoming release…that’s assuming it’s released earlier rather than later next year. 
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  • evenflow82
    evenflow82 Posts: 3,892
    edited September 2023
    I wonder if Ed knows that very few fans enjoy the sappy mushy songs. He probably doesn't care, but I get the impression Watt wants to get the band rocking and having less adult contemporary dad rock.

    Also, hopefully no vedder "heeeeeeee heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"s to compensate for actual singing. 

    Love ya, Ed, but there's still some fire in your belly.

    Let Mikey rip some solos, please.
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    edited September 2023
    evenflow82 said:
    I wonder if Ed knows that very few fans enjoy the sappy mushy songs. He probably doesn't care, but I get the impression Watt wants to get the band rocking and having less adult contemporary dad rock.

    Also, hopefully no vedder "heeeeeeee heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"s to compensate for actual singing. 

    Love ya, Ed, but there's still some fire in your belly.

    Let Mikey rip some solos, please.
    I think you're wrong about this. The biggest hit they ever had was "Last Kiss." "Just Breathe" and "Sirens" are two of the three biggest hits they've had in the past fifteen years (along with "The Fixer"). "Just Breathe," "Sirens" and "The Fixer" are the only Pearl Jam songs to cross over to the Hot 100 since "World Wide Suicide" in 2006. The sappy songs are the ones that reach beyond the core audience.

    With respect to the jaw movement thing people are talking about, that's the vocal affectation that I've mentioned a lot on this board that makes him add syllables to words by aspirating in the middle of them. Think of "low-hoe light."

    EDIT: To be clear, I want Pearl Jam songs, whether they be fast or slow. The problem with "Just Breathe" and "The End," to the extent there is one, is that most of Pearl Jam doesn't do much on them. Save the solo songs for the solo records. (Although I think "Comes Then Goes" is just Ed and that song works well on Gigaton, so these are not hard and fast rules.)
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  • lastexitlondon
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    evenflow82 said:
    I wonder if Ed knows that very few fans enjoy the sappy mushy songs. He probably doesn't care, but I get the impression Watt wants to get the band rocking and having less adult contemporary dad rock.

    Also, hopefully no vedder "heeeeeeee heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"s to compensate for actual singing. 

    Love ya, Ed, but there's still some fire in your belly.

    Let Mikey rip some solos, please.



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    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,011
    I'm with this guy


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,011
    With respect to the jaw movement thing people are talking about, that's the vocal affectation that I've mentioned a lot on this board that makes him add syllables to words by aspirating in the middle of them. Think of "low-hoe light

    This . It may help him sing but the low hoe light example is perfect. It's awful. Along with eeeeeeee hheeee


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • tino_11
    tino_11 Posts: 2,193
    I think 'the waiting drove me mah-had...' is the worst offender! That with the new extended bit in the middle of Corduroy makes me skip this every time on recent bootlegs. 
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  • BloodMeridian80
    BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 717
    Opera Man should just take over lead vocals at this point.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,646
    evenflow82 said:
    I wonder if Ed knows that very few fans enjoy the sappy mushy songs. 
    I wonder if Ed knows that some fans believe that very fans enjoy the "sappy mushy songs" when they historically are the ones that have connected with people and gotten airplay.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • RiotAct10
    RiotAct10 Ohio Posts: 1,640
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    evenflow82 said:
    I wonder if Ed knows that very few fans enjoy the sappy mushy songs. 
    I wonder if Ed knows that some fans believe that very fans enjoy the "sappy mushy songs" when they historically are the ones that have connected with people and gotten airplay.
    I personally love how the shows start now. The more slow, mid-tempo songs the better! I enjoy the rockers too, but I do prefer the slow stuff.
    words seem so out of place.

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    Folks still pining for 1992 Pearl Jam. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    I just wish everything sounded like Nothing as it Seems. I wanna drown in that mood.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    BF25394 said:

    EDIT: To be clear, I want Pearl Jam songs, whether they be fast or slow. The problem with "Just Breathe" and "The End," to the extent there is one, is that most of Pearl Jam doesn't do much on them. Save the solo songs for the solo records. (Although I think "Comes Then Goes" is just Ed and that song works well on Gigaton, so these are not hard and fast rules.)
    I don't think a song of "a band" has to have everyone throwing everything at it. Every song doesn't need to have a guitar solo to fill up some "lead guitarist! quota etc.  The problem with The End is that it is banal. You can't deny the "power" of Just Breathe though, even with it being an Into the Wild-song repurposed into a Pearl Jam-number.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"

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