"Force of Nature"

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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,957
    The thing about "Getaway" is that they were never really able to figure out how to translate it live. Every time they tried, it fell flat. It's so great on the record. I couldn't wait to hear it live, but it just didn't work for whatever reason. I think that's why they abandoned it.

    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,912
    BF25394 said:
    The thing about "Getaway" is that they were never really able to figure out how to translate it live. Every time they tried, it fell flat. It's so great on the record. I couldn't wait to hear it live, but it just didn't work for whatever reason. I think that's why they abandoned it.

    That's because they didn't practice it enough though. Quick Escape was pretty rough at first too.
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 20,306
    yosi said:
    I am definitely not on team Backspacer, but this song is FANTASTIC. Easily my favorite on the album and one of my favorites in general. 
    Me..
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  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,212
    Gern Blansten said:
    yosi said:
    Gern Blansten said:

    I kind of ignored Riot Act for years and it is now near the top for me
    All Riot Act, all the time. 
    I'm a Yield/Binaural/Riot Act/Avocado guy....I think that is their strongest stretch as songwriters
    Could not agree more!
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,957
    Gern Blansten said:
    BF25394 said:
    The thing about "Getaway" is that they were never really able to figure out how to translate it live. Every time they tried, it fell flat. It's so great on the record. I couldn't wait to hear it live, but it just didn't work for whatever reason. I think that's why they abandoned it.

    That's because they didn't practice it enough though. Quick Escape was pretty rough at first too.
    You may be right about that with respect to "Getaway"-- I don't get the feeling there's a lot of time devoted to practice-- but I thought "Quick Escape" sounded great from the first time I heard it at Ohana. I've only seen "Getaway" three times, but it sounded muddy and plodding each time. Maybe they were tuning it down for Ed? 
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,113
    edited September 2023
    Inspired by this thread… I put Backspacer on in the car while driving my 14 year old daughter to basketball practice tonight.  When The Fixer came on the following conversation was had:

    Her: Oooh… I like this song.
    Me: Really? (She has never said she liked a PJ song despite hearing them hundreds of times)
    Her: Yeah… it’s good. 
    Me: You should add it to your playlist.
    Her: Well… I don’t like it that much.  I meant it was good for your music.
    Me: 

    True story. 


    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh 2


  • CP218430
    CP218430 Posts: 1,966
    When Backspacer hits: Force of Nature, Speed of Sound, Gonna See a Friend, The End it does amazing things. The decent songs are decent but there's Johnny Guitar, possibly my least favorite PJ song (maybe tied with Leatherman). But I think this album go hate right off for The Fixer, which is fun. 
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    "Let the Ocean dissolve away my past."
  • BSully
    BSully Indiana Posts: 1,513
    Bob Mayo on the keyboards Bob said:
    And it SMOKES live too- I am firmly a part of team backspacer. I wish a lot more of those songs were in heavy rotation- force of nature, gonna see my friend and supersonic especially
    Supersonic is amazing live... 
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    2000: Noblesville, IN 08-18
    2003: Noblesville, IN 06-22
    2006: Cincinnati, OH 06-24
    2010: Noblesville, IN 05-07
    2016: Lexington, KY 04-26, Wrigley Field 2 08-22
    2018: Wrigley Field 1 08-18, Wrigley Field 2 08-20
    2022: St. Louis, MO 09-18
    2024: Noblesville, IN 08-26, Wrigley Field 1 08-29, Wrigley Field 2 08-31
    2025: Pitt 1 05-16, Pitt 2 05-18
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,912
    CP218430 said:
    When Backspacer hits: Force of Nature, Speed of Sound, Gonna See a Friend, The End it does amazing things. The decent songs are decent but there's Johnny Guitar, possibly my least favorite PJ song (maybe tied with Leatherman). But I think this album go hate right off for The Fixer, which is fun. 
    I'm not a fan of the Fixer or The End....I actually like Johnny though. Funny how we all differ.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,912
    on2legs said:
    Inspired by this thread… I put Backspacer on in the car while driving my 14 year old daughter to basketball practice tonight.  When The Fixer came on the following conversation was had:

    Her: Oooh… I like this song.
    Me: Really? (She has never said she liked a PJ song despite hearing them hundreds of times)
    Her: Yeah… it’s good. 
    Me: You should add it to your playlist.
    Her: Well… I don’t like it that much.  I meant it was good for your music.
    Me: 

    True story. 


    that's funny...I had a similar conversation with my daughter (23) about the album. She loves the Fixer....I've always despised it but I do like the demo version. I think the song that is on the record is drastically different than Matt intended.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,912
    on2legs said:
    Inspired by this thread… I put Backspacer on in the car while driving my 14 year old daughter to basketball practice tonight.  When The Fixer came on the following conversation was had:

    Her: Oooh… I like this song.
    Me: Really? (She has never said she liked a PJ song despite hearing them hundreds of times)
    Her: Yeah… it’s good. 
    Me: You should add it to your playlist.
    Her: Well… I don’t like it that much.  I meant it was good for your music.
    Me: 

    True story. 


    that's funny...I had a similar conversation with my daughter (23) about the album. She loves the Fixer....I've always despised it but I do like the demo version. I think the song that is on the record is drastically different than Matt intended.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,718
    SIE IST EINE NATURLICHGEKRAFTEN
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • rahjiim
    rahjiim Posts: 168
    edited September 2023
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    SIE IST EINE NATURLICHGEKRAFTEN
    ... Sie ist eine Naturgewalt. Sounds much better in English. 
    Post edited by rahjiim on
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,113
    Gern Blansten said:
    on2legs said:
    Inspired by this thread… I put Backspacer on in the car while driving my 14 year old daughter to basketball practice tonight.  When The Fixer came on the following conversation was had:

    Her: Oooh… I like this song.
    Me: Really? (She has never said she liked a PJ song despite hearing them hundreds of times)
    Her: Yeah… it’s good. 
    Me: You should add it to your playlist.
    Her: Well… I don’t like it that much.  I meant it was good for your music.
    Me: 

    True story. 


    that's funny...I had a similar conversation with my daughter (23) about the album. She loves the Fixer....I've always despised it but I do like the demo version. I think the song that is on the record is drastically different than Matt intended.
    Where can I find the demo version? I don’t think I’ve ever heard it.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh 2


  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,718
    on2legs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    on2legs said:
    Inspired by this thread… I put Backspacer on in the car while driving my 14 year old daughter to basketball practice tonight.  When The Fixer came on the following conversation was had:

    Her: Oooh… I like this song.
    Me: Really? (She has never said she liked a PJ song despite hearing them hundreds of times)
    Her: Yeah… it’s good. 
    Me: You should add it to your playlist.
    Her: Well… I don’t like it that much.  I meant it was good for your music.
    Me: 

    True story. 


    that's funny...I had a similar conversation with my daughter (23) about the album. She loves the Fixer....I've always despised it but I do like the demo version. I think the song that is on the record is drastically different than Matt intended.
    Where can I find the demo version? I don’t think I’ve ever heard it.  
    It’s on the PJ20 soundtrack
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,912
    edited September 2023
    on2legs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    on2legs said:
    Inspired by this thread… I put Backspacer on in the car while driving my 14 year old daughter to basketball practice tonight.  When The Fixer came on the following conversation was had:

    Her: Oooh… I like this song.
    Me: Really? (She has never said she liked a PJ song despite hearing them hundreds of times)
    Her: Yeah… it’s good. 
    Me: You should add it to your playlist.
    Her: Well… I don’t like it that much.  I meant it was good for your music.
    Me: 

    True story. 


    that's funny...I had a similar conversation with my daughter (23) about the album. She loves the Fixer....I've always despised it but I do like the demo version. I think the song that is on the record is drastically different than Matt intended.
    Where can I find the demo version? I don’t think I’ve ever heard it.  
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXabZPd0pw8

    Imagine these lyrics with Ed singing...full band, etc. Totally different vibe. I love it.
    Post edited by Gern Blansten on
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • CP218430
    CP218430 Posts: 1,966
    But this is what I love about this band, I loathe Johnny Guitar but another person would go see any show anywhere to hear it. I'll stand by so many songs from the new album and I'll agree to disagree with people on other albums knowing no one is right, except that we like what we like. This band has a wide berth.

    And this version from the PJ20 soundtrack is indeed great. 
    98: St. Louis. 2000: Alpine. 2003: Chicago. 2006: Chicago Night 2, Milwaukee Night 1. 2007: Chicago (Lolla). 2009: Chicago 1 & 2. 2011: Alpine 1 & 2. 2013: Chicago & LA Night 1. 2016: Chicago 1 & 2. 2018: Chicago 1 & 2. 

    "Let the Ocean dissolve away my past."
  • CP218430
    CP218430 Posts: 1,966
    I also thought we'd be cursed to hear The Fixer and Just Breathe every show forever and how wrong was I? And I heard Just Breathe in Chicago and it was nice to hear again. I think that's the beauty of loving a band with such a history. 
    98: St. Louis. 2000: Alpine. 2003: Chicago. 2006: Chicago Night 2, Milwaukee Night 1. 2007: Chicago (Lolla). 2009: Chicago 1 & 2. 2011: Alpine 1 & 2. 2013: Chicago & LA Night 1. 2016: Chicago 1 & 2. 2018: Chicago 1 & 2. 

    "Let the Ocean dissolve away my past."
  • ForceofNature101
    ForceofNature101 Posts: 1,295
    It's an okay song... wouldn't go so far as to name a username here after it or anything...

    =)
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,113
    Haha
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