*** ST PAUL 1 SETLIST THREAD ***

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  • riley540
    riley540 Denver Colorado Posts: 1,132
    I was at the show! My 10th time seeing them. It was pretty great I thought. Much different than the last time I saw them, and the time before that… etc. some slower bits as far as pacing goes, but I don’t really mind at all. I love all the music! 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,026
    that being said, I would have been thrilled to be there. Deflated I wasn't. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,502
    mcgruff10 said:
    That s one rough set list.  Seems like there was zero flow.  Not my cup of tea.  
    7:00 sucks all the energy out of the arena. Let s hope night two is better.  
    I mentioned this in my review, but looking at the set list doesn't do it justice. It was great live, but yes, 7 O'clock did break up the flow. Other than that, not noticeable at all.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,296
    One slow song to open, and then get loud.  For me at least, 4 songs to start that are slow just kills all of my anticipation and pent up energy.    Long Road into Do the Evolution was the start to my first show back in 1998, so maybe that is why I feel this way.  4 minute slow song and then a punch to the gut versus 20minutes of slow songs followed by an 8 minute version of Black before you get to anything heavy or fast.
  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,392
    Buckle Up in the two slot killed a lot of energy built up from an intense, surprising and awesome opener of Indifference. Almost anything else would’ve blown up the building
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,026
    bootlegger10 said:
    One slow song to open, and then get loud.  For me at least, 4 songs to start that are slow just kills all of my anticipation and pent up energy.    Long Road into Do the Evolution was the start to my first show back in 1998, so maybe that is why I feel this way.  4 minute slow song and then a punch to the gut versus 20minutes of slow songs followed by an 8 minute version of Black before you get to anything heavy or fast.
    if it's the only spot I can get a mini "unplugged" session, I'll take it. but I largely agree. In 2005 we started with Betterman into Hail Hail/Corduroy/Grievance and it blew the place up. 

    I really dig the first encore setting for an unplugged session. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,192
    Abe Froman said:
    Buckle Up in the two slot killed a lot of energy built up from an intense, surprising and awesome opener of Indifference. Almost anything else would’ve blown up the building
    Like arms aloft pj 20.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,026
    mcgruff10 said:
    Abe Froman said:
    Buckle Up in the two slot killed a lot of energy built up from an intense, surprising and awesome opener of Indifference. Almost anything else would’ve blown up the building
    Like arms aloft pj 20.  
    I actually liked that one in Winnipeg
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,192
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Abe Froman said:
    Buckle Up in the two slot killed a lot of energy built up from an intense, surprising and awesome opener of Indifference. Almost anything else would’ve blown up the building
    Like arms aloft pj 20.  
    I actually liked that one in Winnipeg
    You were probably the one person in the building that did.  ;)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Discopij
    Discopij Posts: 480
    mcgruff10 said:
    Abe Froman said:
    Buckle Up in the two slot killed a lot of energy built up from an intense, surprising and awesome opener of Indifference. Almost anything else would’ve blown up the building
    Like arms aloft pj 20.  
    I'd never experienced an energy-suck like that one ... and hopefully never will again
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,026
    mcgruff10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Abe Froman said:
    Buckle Up in the two slot killed a lot of energy built up from an intense, surprising and awesome opener of Indifference. Almost anything else would’ve blown up the building
    Like arms aloft pj 20.  
    I actually liked that one in Winnipeg
    You were probably the one person in the building that did.  ;)
    the pit dug it. I think the rest of the crowd was confused. lol
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,026
    I'm gonna agree with HFD here I heard on the euro tour and enjoyed it. Granted they were 30 song sets so there was plenty of room for many songs


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,392
    mcgruff10 said:
    Abe Froman said:
    Buckle Up in the two slot killed a lot of energy built up from an intense, surprising and awesome opener of Indifference. Almost anything else would’ve blown up the building
    Like arms aloft pj 20.  
    That’s exactly what I thought of when they went into it last night. I really didn’t want to feel that way but I did. Almost any other song would’ve been a better choice there. 
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,271
    Abe Froman said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Abe Froman said:
    Buckle Up in the two slot killed a lot of energy built up from an intense, surprising and awesome opener of Indifference. Almost anything else would’ve blown up the building
    Like arms aloft pj 20.  
    That’s exactly what I thought of when they went into it last night. I really didn’t want to feel that way but I did. Almost any other song would’ve been a better choice there. 
    One thing I liked about hearing Buckle Up was that now all I need to complete Gigaton is Comes Then Goes (which is unlikely to ever be played anyway), so I am happy if Buckle Up is a one and done for me.

  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,034
    After being spoiled with 3+ hour shows, these 24 song setlist seem very different. Every song you're not excited about has a bigger impact. Buckle Up when its 1 out of 33 doesn't seem so bad, but when its 1 out of 24, a little different. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,026
    GlowGirl said:
    Abe Froman said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Abe Froman said:
    Buckle Up in the two slot killed a lot of energy built up from an intense, surprising and awesome opener of Indifference. Almost anything else would’ve blown up the building
    Like arms aloft pj 20.  
    That’s exactly what I thought of when they went into it last night. I really didn’t want to feel that way but I did. Almost any other song would’ve been a better choice there. 
    One thing I liked about hearing Buckle Up was that now all I need to complete Gigaton is Comes Then Goes (which is unlikely to ever be played anyway), so I am happy if Buckle Up is a one and done for me.

    why is CTG unlikely to ever be played?
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • Discopij
    Discopij Posts: 480
    mace1229 said:
    After being spoiled with 3+ hour shows, these 24 song setlist seem very different. Every song you're not excited about has a bigger impact. Buckle Up when its 1 out of 33 doesn't seem so bad, but when its 1 out of 24, a little different. 
    We're on Year 2 of this and I still can't recalibrate.  I have 2 Chicago shows next week and hate the idea that 2:15 of PJ with 24 songs is 'disappointing' but I know I'll feel that way, just like i did last year even though i knew it was coming.
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,271
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    GlowGirl said:
    Abe Froman said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Abe Froman said:
    Buckle Up in the two slot killed a lot of energy built up from an intense, surprising and awesome opener of Indifference. Almost anything else would’ve blown up the building
    Like arms aloft pj 20.  
    That’s exactly what I thought of when they went into it last night. I really didn’t want to feel that way but I did. Almost any other song would’ve been a better choice there. 
    One thing I liked about hearing Buckle Up was that now all I need to complete Gigaton is Comes Then Goes (which is unlikely to ever be played anyway), so I am happy if Buckle Up is a one and done for me.

    why is CTG unlikely to ever be played?
    It hasn't been played yet. It is a fairly long mellow song, and mostly Ed. Maybe he would play it solo or something. I just don't see it happening if it hasn't happened yet. But I hope I am wrong. Maybe it will be played. I don't know.

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,026
    GlowGirl said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    GlowGirl said:
    Abe Froman said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Abe Froman said:
    Buckle Up in the two slot killed a lot of energy built up from an intense, surprising and awesome opener of Indifference. Almost anything else would’ve blown up the building
    Like arms aloft pj 20.  
    That’s exactly what I thought of when they went into it last night. I really didn’t want to feel that way but I did. Almost any other song would’ve been a better choice there. 
    One thing I liked about hearing Buckle Up was that now all I need to complete Gigaton is Comes Then Goes (which is unlikely to ever be played anyway), so I am happy if Buckle Up is a one and done for me.

    why is CTG unlikely to ever be played?
    It hasn't been played yet. It is a fairly long mellow song, and mostly Ed. Maybe he would play it solo or something. I just don't see it happening if it hasn't happened yet. But I hope I am wrong. Maybe it will be played. I don't know.

    ah, I've heard others say because of the lyrical content, which confused me, since they've played Missing live. Your explanation sounds more likely. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,392
    mace1229 said:
    After being spoiled with 3+ hour shows, these 24 song setlist seem very different. Every song you're not excited about has a bigger impact. Buckle Up when its 1 out of 33 doesn't seem so bad, but when its 1 out of 24, a little different. 
    For sure

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