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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    yeah, I didn't like Earthlings either. rarely listen to it. only when I want to "give it another shot". 
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,218
    Besides Earthlings being not good imo, they way it sounded drove me nuts. Awful 
  • strilo
    strilo Portland OR Posts: 495
    I'm the complete opposite on Earthling. I love the way it sounds and I love the songs. I would also guess that a Pearl Jam record produced by Andrew Watt would not sound like that, it would sound more like a Pearl Jam record. For Earthling, they were trying to make a solo record for Ed. That's a very different sound approach to a Pearl Jam record. I don't expect this new PJ record to just sound like Earthling with the rest of the guys.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,467
    I JUST HOPE THAT STONE IS BRINGING THE RIFFS
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,218
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I JUST HOPE THAT STONE IS BRINGING THE RIFFS
    Seriously. Him only having 1 on the last album is crazy. That one being buckle up is even crazier and actually depressing. 
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,629
    Loved the Earthling album. Liked the loudness.  The songs were great. 
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    pdalowsky said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I guess im one of the few that isn’t excited about watt producing. I hate the way the earthlings album sounds. Cool that he’s a big fan but that doesn’t mean anything to me. I just hope it’s better than gigaton because I could just never get into that album and the few songs I see live absolutely killed the momentum of every show. Maybe besides whoever said. 
    I'm with you totally on Earthlings, that was the first album that Ed's been involved with that I have just not enjoyed at all. 
    This is how I feel too. Just too slick and adult contemporary for my taste. I guess one every 30 years ago still makes a solid track record.
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Love Invincible. One of the best songs that has come out in awhile from anyone in the band and wish it was a PJ song to be honest. The rest of the album really does not have any standouts that I have any interest in going back to. 
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,817
    Earthling
    95% google users like it
    Metascore 79
    Mostly more than positive reviews

    leave it to this place  =)

    Are we saying we dont like it cause Into the wild was so great and its vastly different? 

    I too love ITW a ton more, but I can see a solid album
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    CROJAM95 said:
    Earthling
    95% google users like it
    Metascore 79
    Mostly more than positive reviews

    leave it to this place  =)

    Are we saying we dont like it cause Into the wild was so great and its vastly different? 

    I too love ITW a ton more, but I can see a solid album
    I'm saying I listened to it, didn't really like it, and didn't listen to it again 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    I'm not terribly familiar with Andrew Watt but I say let's bring in Ross Robinson and get weird
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    CROJAM95 said:
    Earthling
    95% google users like it
    Metascore 79
    Mostly more than positive reviews

    leave it to this place  =)

    Are we saying we dont like it cause Into the wild was so great and its vastly different? 

    I too love ITW a ton more, but I can see a solid album
    "leave it to this place"?

    no, it just didn't grab me. I love both ITW and US but Earthlings felt to me like he was trying to write a Who record and fell flat doing it. 
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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,817
    i handicap my expectations

    nothing will come out better than ITW

    Nothing will come out better than Ten thru Yield ( 1st 5 albums)......Take it from there.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    no one said anything about comparing. I just don't like the style. 
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,892
    Earthlings really grew on me.  I was meh on the first listen or two, then I played it a bunch leading up to the Seattle shows last year, and it grew on me quickly.   I like it more than the last couple of PJ releases for sure.

    It's not Into the Wild, but it's pretty good in it's own way :)
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Zod said:
    Earthlings really grew on me.  I was meh on the first listen or two, then I played it a bunch leading up to the Seattle shows last year, and it grew on me quickly.   I like it more than the last couple of PJ releases for sure.

    It's not Into the Wild, but it's pretty good in it's own way :)
    I think sometimes seeing the songs live makes a difference. Wish I had gotten to an Earthlings show. 

    if I compared any of PJ's output to Ten-> Yield, I wouldn't like BS and LB as much as I do. compartmentalize. contextualize. Appreciate each artistic expression as its individual piece. 
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  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,214
    CROJAM95 said:
    Earthling
    95% google users like it
    Metascore 79
    Mostly more than positive reviews

    leave it to this place  =)

    Are we saying we dont like it cause Into the wild was so great and its vastly different? 

    I too love ITW a ton more, but I can see a solid album
    Im really not going even as deep as that, I played it, found it boring, and really tried over a few weeks to like it, and ended up liking it less. 

    Invincible was the standout for me, but those opening lines made me cringe every damn time
  • nautical_disaster
    nautical_disaster Posts: 348
    From my limited perspective of being an "OG Pearl jam fan" of falling in love with the band when I was a kid watching Jeremy on Much Music (Canadian MTV haha), I can tell you - and it's no surprise from the many fans that have agreed with me over the years - that the run of albums from Ten to Yield is near perfect and will never be beaten. The fact that this period of records coincides with with my peak pearl jam fandom (even though I was too young to attend shows haha) makes all the albums after it impossible to match expectations. That's my problem, not Pearl Jam's, and i'm always ready for them to prove me wrong. I absolutely LOVE a number of songs post yield, and i'm always excited for a new album. Hell I think Gigaton is the best record since yield, so i'm always amazed that this band can still bring it after all these years. The fact that Gigaton was solid makes me excited for the next one :) 

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  • js87130
    js87130 Posts: 90
    nicknyr15 said:
    I guess im one of the few that isn’t excited about watt producing. I hate the way the earthlings album sounds. Cool that he’s a big fan but that doesn’t mean anything to me. I just hope it’s better than gigaton because I could just never get into that album and the few songs I see live absolutely killed the momentum of every show. Maybe besides whoever said. 
    I'm with you.  I'm not terribly excited about Watt producing.  I thought Earthling was ok.  I'm also not a fan of Watt's credits for producing pop albums.  Most of all I don't like that fact that he is a big Pearl Jam fan and one that is so much younger.  Will he have the ability to be honest with them if what they are doing stinks?  
    At the same time, it is tough to say whether or not the Producer matters that much.  Sometimes it does.  Some producers are very hands on, like when George Martin suggested that Paul use strings on Yesterday.  Some are very hands off, like Steve Albini who thinks the producer should really not interfere with the artist at all.  Yet both have produced amazing records.
    At the end of the day I think it's pretty much up to the band.  I hope they have a late career gem in their back pocket on this one.  I'm excited for it as always.
  • tschav
    tschav Posts: 2,899
    While I'd be fine with more Gigaton-esque tracks in a followup album, there are a few on Earthling that I wouldn't mind inspiring a new PJ album (Good and Evil, Invincible, Brother the Cloud).

    That also being said, if a Watt album immediately pushes Gigaton out of the live setlist rotation I might be against it. :bawling:

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