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yeah and I think that is some of the reason why they were all yelling so many commands to him...that is their "out" by saying he wasn't complying, etc.tempo_n_groove said:
They all wore body cams. I thought the body cams would eliminate the bad shit, I guess not.OnWis97 said:This cannot be reformed.
It's a cultural problem...It's about the power and ability to whatever you want to "certain" people. As we learned in Uvalde, it's not even a police role to "protect." They don't want to protect anyone unless it comes in the process of exerting power. It doesn't even matter of some of them are good. The culture is broken.
I think one of them even made mention of him trying to grab his gun. Covering their tracks...or at least attempting toRemember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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That eye in the sky video thankfully exists too. That one cop kicked and teed off on him. This was the worst cop beating I have ever seen, I would expect this in a prison yard.Gern Blansten said:
yeah and I think that is some of the reason why they were all yelling so many commands to him...that is their "out" by saying he wasn't complying, etc.tempo_n_groove said:
They all wore body cams. I thought the body cams would eliminate the bad shit, I guess not.OnWis97 said:This cannot be reformed.
It's a cultural problem...It's about the power and ability to whatever you want to "certain" people. As we learned in Uvalde, it's not even a police role to "protect." They don't want to protect anyone unless it comes in the process of exerting power. It doesn't even matter of some of them are good. The culture is broken.
I think one of them even made mention of him trying to grab his gun. Covering their tracks...or at least attempting to0 -
that is what they do. there was nobody clearly in control. you are getting beat up and 3 or 4 people are yelling conflicting commands at you you do not know what to do. you are guilty of not complying simply because they say get on the ground while you are already on the ground and tell you to lie still when you reflexively move as a result of being boot stomped.Gern Blansten said:
yeah and I think that is some of the reason why they were all yelling so many commands to him...that is their "out" by saying he wasn't complying, etc.tempo_n_groove said:
They all wore body cams. I thought the body cams would eliminate the bad shit, I guess not.OnWis97 said:This cannot be reformed.
It's a cultural problem...It's about the power and ability to whatever you want to "certain" people. As we learned in Uvalde, it's not even a police role to "protect." They don't want to protect anyone unless it comes in the process of exerting power. It doesn't even matter of some of them are good. The culture is broken.
I think one of them even made mention of him trying to grab his gun. Covering their tracks...or at least attempting to"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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The one thing I got from that video footage is the guy clearly couldn't understand what his stomach was. I did hear that. "Get on the ground, get on your stomach".gimmesometruth27 said:
that is what they do. there was nobody clearly in control. you are getting beat up and 3 or 4 people are yelling conflicting commands at you you do not know what to do. you are guilty of not complying simply because they say get on the ground while you are already on the ground and tell you to lie still when you reflexively move as a result of being boot stomped.Gern Blansten said:
yeah and I think that is some of the reason why they were all yelling so many commands to him...that is their "out" by saying he wasn't complying, etc.tempo_n_groove said:
They all wore body cams. I thought the body cams would eliminate the bad shit, I guess not.OnWis97 said:This cannot be reformed.
It's a cultural problem...It's about the power and ability to whatever you want to "certain" people. As we learned in Uvalde, it's not even a police role to "protect." They don't want to protect anyone unless it comes in the process of exerting power. It doesn't even matter of some of them are good. The culture is broken.
I think one of them even made mention of him trying to grab his gun. Covering their tracks...or at least attempting to
I heard a few commands where the guy thought he should try and discuss this with the cops.
Not saying in any way it is justified.0 -
Nothing can eliminate bad behavior. But it can reduce it. Probably will take time when they see other cops go to jail for the majority of their life.Gern Blansten said:
yeah and I think that is some of the reason why they were all yelling so many commands to him...that is their "out" by saying he wasn't complying, etc.tempo_n_groove said:
They all wore body cams. I thought the body cams would eliminate the bad shit, I guess not.OnWis97 said:This cannot be reformed.
It's a cultural problem...It's about the power and ability to whatever you want to "certain" people. As we learned in Uvalde, it's not even a police role to "protect." They don't want to protect anyone unless it comes in the process of exerting power. It doesn't even matter of some of them are good. The culture is broken.
I think one of them even made mention of him trying to grab his gun. Covering their tracks...or at least attempting to0 -
OnWis97 said:This cannot be reformed.
It's a cultural problem...It's about the power and ability to whatever you want to "certain" people. As we learned in Uvalde, it's not even a police role to "protect." They don't want to protect anyone unless it comes in the process of exerting power. It doesn't even matter of some of them are good. The culture is broken.
Yeah, I hate to say it, but I agree. How many times does this have to happen before things change? Another 2 or 3? Another 10? A hundred? It just keeps happening over and over and politicians continue to say, "We must make changes and blah blah blah..." but if anything does change it takes decades, if at all. In the 60's, some of my peers got their brains knocked out for protesting or being black or brown. Now the get their brains knocked protesting or driving to fast or being black or brown.
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gift article.....Initial Police Report on Tyre Nichols Arrest Is Contradicted by Videos https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/30/us/tyre-nichols-arrest-videos.html?unlocked_article_code=CmG3ePKK5YWDv0qd-wsVNrkoHeAE_98VpaEzht6ztKLJHRKFiHzVY6x917Fw-8KBuTTaDjwSsiMygbVbeatAib7aaht_trWFuLnAmhq0tnqXmfW5pFC04-YXUvhkHanhbCGi8bQtzIOs1odozcgHIFUTKWZqji1hgdebWianWCGd1j-suGlnl4Bxo23g6SSq0useigS64K0L3OJU2rZKTa2z05jmZft4W-CPKwvlekptg2ldkYvxMUJdJV-7xPqFZsBPkHCw2ez6Yn-eyXoHiGAknyb72uerE0OHcS92zEgA9cGrgJpXmHV-ddf_42_R2_ROlOTKs7fe9h2cBKPp
Initial Police Report on Tyre Nichols Arrest Is Contradicted by Videos
The police report was the latest instance in which video evidence offered a starkly different account of police violence than what officers had reported themselves.
ImageProtesters gathered outside of the Memphis Police Department’s Ridgeway Station on Sunday to demand the release of the names of all officers involved in Tyre Nichols’s fatal encounter with the police. Credit...Desiree Rios/The New York TimesBy Jessica Jaglois, Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs and Mitch Smith
Jan. 30, 2023, 5:10 p.m. ETMEMPHIS — The videos show a brutal beating in which a group of Memphis police officers repeatedly kicked and punched Tyre Nichols after they yanked him from his car, shouted a series of threats and orders, and then pushed him to the ground while he pleaded for them to stop.
But in an official account written up by a police officer only hours after the beating, Mr. Nichols, 29, is described as an irate suspect who refused to comply with police officers’ directions and “started to fight” with them, even reaching for one of their guns.
The videos that were released on Friday do not show Mr. Nichols fighting with officers, let alone reaching for any of their guns.
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Shocker.mickeyrat said:gift article.....Initial Police Report on Tyre Nichols Arrest Is Contradicted by Videos https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/30/us/tyre-nichols-arrest-videos.html?unlocked_article_code=CmG3ePKK5YWDv0qd-wsVNrkoHeAE_98VpaEzht6ztKLJHRKFiHzVY6x917Fw-8KBuTTaDjwSsiMygbVbeatAib7aaht_trWFuLnAmhq0tnqXmfW5pFC04-YXUvhkHanhbCGi8bQtzIOs1odozcgHIFUTKWZqji1hgdebWianWCGd1j-suGlnl4Bxo23g6SSq0useigS64K0L3OJU2rZKTa2z05jmZft4W-CPKwvlekptg2ldkYvxMUJdJV-7xPqFZsBPkHCw2ez6Yn-eyXoHiGAknyb72uerE0OHcS92zEgA9cGrgJpXmHV-ddf_42_R2_ROlOTKs7fe9h2cBKPpInitial Police Report on Tyre Nichols Arrest Is Contradicted by Videos
The police report was the latest instance in which video evidence offered a starkly different account of police violence than what officers had reported themselves.
ImageProtesters gathered outside of the Memphis Police Department’s Ridgeway Station on Sunday to demand the release of the names of all officers involved in Tyre Nichols’s fatal encounter with the police. Credit...Desiree Rios/The New York TimesBy Jessica Jaglois, Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs and Mitch Smith
Jan. 30, 2023, 5:10 p.m. ETMEMPHIS — The videos show a brutal beating in which a group of Memphis police officers repeatedly kicked and punched Tyre Nichols after they yanked him from his car, shouted a series of threats and orders, and then pushed him to the ground while he pleaded for them to stop.
But in an official account written up by a police officer only hours after the beating, Mr. Nichols, 29, is described as an irate suspect who refused to comply with police officers’ directions and “started to fight” with them, even reaching for one of their guns.
The videos that were released on Friday do not show Mr. Nichols fighting with officers, let alone reaching for any of their guns.
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It is kind of interesting how we still hear people say that Nichols "should have just complied" to avoid this beating but those same people probably believe that Ashley Babbit was murdered.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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“He’s got a gun”
”stop resisting”
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Justifiably, yes.Gern Blansten said:It is kind of interesting how we still hear people say that Nichols "should have just complied" to avoid this beating but those same people probably believe that Ashley Babbit was murdered.
If he didn't run away this would have ended a lot differently. You can't argue that.0 -
If the cops didn't drag him out of the car this would have ended a lot differently too.tempo_n_groove said:
Justifiably, yes.Gern Blansten said:It is kind of interesting how we still hear people say that Nichols "should have just complied" to avoid this beating but those same people probably believe that Ashley Babbit was murdered.
If he didn't run away this would have ended a lot differently. You can't argue that.
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And it was Hinter Biden under orders from Hillary Clinton who murdered her.Gern Blansten said:It is kind of interesting how we still hear people say that Nichols "should have just complied" to avoid this beating but those same people probably believe that Ashley Babbit was murdered.0 -
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If the cops didn't drag him out of the car this would have ended a lot differently too.tempo_n_groove said:
Justifiably, yes.Gern Blansten said:It is kind of interesting how we still hear people say that Nichols "should have just complied" to avoid this beating but those same people probably believe that Ashley Babbit was murdered.
If he didn't run away this would have ended a lot differently. You can't argue that.right.tempo, your last traffic stop, were you dragged out of your car from the jump?_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Sure you can. We’ve had instances of guys not getting out of the car and shot dead. You have no idea how it might have ended if he didn’t run away.tempo_n_groove said:
Justifiably, yes.Gern Blansten said:It is kind of interesting how we still hear people say that Nichols "should have just complied" to avoid this beating but those same people probably believe that Ashley Babbit was murdered.
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This isn't about me, it's about the person who ran.mickeyrat said:Merkin Baller said:
If the cops didn't drag him out of the car this would have ended a lot differently too.tempo_n_groove said:
Justifiably, yes.Gern Blansten said:It is kind of interesting how we still hear people say that Nichols "should have just complied" to avoid this beating but those same people probably believe that Ashley Babbit was murdered.
If he didn't run away this would have ended a lot differently. You can't argue that.right.tempo, your last traffic stop, were you dragged out of your car from the jump?
Before we all go piling on here I am bringing up a point. I am not justifying anything. Running away from the cops is never a good idea.0 -
Running away from the cops shouldn’t result in being beaten to death. Full stop. Good lord.tempo_n_groove said:
This isn't about me, it's about the person who ran.mickeyrat said:Merkin Baller said:
If the cops didn't drag him out of the car this would have ended a lot differently too.tempo_n_groove said:
Justifiably, yes.Gern Blansten said:It is kind of interesting how we still hear people say that Nichols "should have just complied" to avoid this beating but those same people probably believe that Ashley Babbit was murdered.
If he didn't run away this would have ended a lot differently. You can't argue that.right.tempo, your last traffic stop, were you dragged out of your car from the jump?
Before we all go piling on here I am bringing up a point. I am not justifying anything. Running away from the cops is never a good idea.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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He ran because he thought his life was in danger and he was right.tempo_n_groove said:
This isn't about me, it's about the person who ran.mickeyrat said:Merkin Baller said:
If the cops didn't drag him out of the car this would have ended a lot differently too.tempo_n_groove said:
Justifiably, yes.Gern Blansten said:It is kind of interesting how we still hear people say that Nichols "should have just complied" to avoid this beating but those same people probably believe that Ashley Babbit was murdered.
If he didn't run away this would have ended a lot differently. You can't argue that.right.tempo, your last traffic stop, were you dragged out of your car from the jump?
Before we all go piling on here I am bringing up a point. I am not justifying anything. Running away from the cops is never a good idea.
100% of the blame for this needs to be placed on the shoulders of the people who are trained for these situations. Don't blame the victim for acting out of instinct.0 -
I agree but like I said, it never ends well when you run from the cops. I can't recall a good ending of when it occurred.Merkin Baller said:
He ran because he thought his life was in danger and he was right.tempo_n_groove said:
This isn't about me, it's about the person who ran.mickeyrat said:Merkin Baller said:
If the cops didn't drag him out of the car this would have ended a lot differently too.tempo_n_groove said:
Justifiably, yes.Gern Blansten said:It is kind of interesting how we still hear people say that Nichols "should have just complied" to avoid this beating but those same people probably believe that Ashley Babbit was murdered.
If he didn't run away this would have ended a lot differently. You can't argue that.right.tempo, your last traffic stop, were you dragged out of your car from the jump?
Before we all go piling on here I am bringing up a point. I am not justifying anything. Running away from the cops is never a good idea.
100% of the blame for this needs to be placed on the shoulders of the people who are trained for these situations. Don't blame the victim for acting out of instinct.0
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